Closing Matches Based on Must Haves & Can't Stands


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SweetKisses is offline SweetKisses Post #1  December 15,2011, 2:34pm
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I've only been a member of EH for about 2 months now and wouldn't say that I'm having much success with actually meeting anyone, but I know it's still early.

Anyway, something I've noticed with the guys I've started Guided Communication with is that their Must Haves & Can't Stands are turning me off and leading me to close the match. For instance, this one guy listed "I must have a partner who is considered 'very attractive' by most current standards" when he's really not a stud himself, so that makes me feel like he's shallow. I also don't like the "I can't stand someone who is overweight" statement. It's fine if you feel that way, but can't we assume that you wouldn't even be communicating with someone who you weren't attracted to, so what's the point of telling me that you don't like fat women? So I'll know that I had better not EVER gain any weight if we were to start a relationship? Once again, it sounds very shallow and I don't see the point in listing it as a Can't Stand because I would think the person you're sending it to wouldn't be overweight in the first place.

Lastly, the "I can't stand someone who does not enjoy having sex on a regular basis" statement also turns me off immediately. I'm assuming that the majority of guys in my target age range (under 40) want sex on a regular basis, so why is it important to state that to a stranger? Maybe it's just me, but it makes me uncomfortable when some guy who I've never even met feels the need to tell me that he needs a lot of sex in order for him to be happy.

So, are there any Must Haves & Can't Stands that turn you off immediately and make you just want to close the match? If you regularly send out some of the ones that I mentioned, can you explain to me why you think it's important to share those sentiments with potential partners?
 
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These canned statements are extremely vague and subject to all kinds of interpretations. As such, it's pretty much foolish to write people off based on that alone.

You are interpreting the "no overweight" to mean that this person is only into sticks and you better not gain a pound. However, he may be thinking extreme obese, can't even walk or get out of bed kind of overweight. To be honest, when I read this can't stand, that's kind of what pops into my head.

You also have people in your age range who maybe got out of bad marriages where the ex didn't want to have sex but once a year, etc. What seems like a given to you, is not such a given to them and their life experience. Going forward, they want to be sure that the next women will be warm and affectionate in that department.

The bottom line is that if you see something questionable, ask about it later on. Don't leap to blind conclusions. Ultimately realize that finding a relationship is not like ordering furniture from a catalog. Oh these specs are not quite right, next. Until you meet in person, you really have no idea what that person is really like. Great writers do not necessarily translate into great people in person, sparse profiles and curt responses can hide a super fun and outgoing individual, etc. The more you keep an open mind, the more likely you'll be successful at meeting someone right for you. The more you get hung up on pixels on the screen, the lower your odds of success will be.
 
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You are interpreting the "no overweight" to mean that this person is only into sticks and you better not gain a pound. However, he may be thinking extreme obese, can't even walk or get out of bed kind of overweight. To be honest, when I read this can't stand, that's kind of what pops into my head.
Still, what would be the point of telling me that he's not into obese women? If I were obese, I'd assume he wouldn't have contacted me, so why do I even need to know that he finds that undesirable? Is he that worried that I might get fat someday that he has to tell me ahead of time that it's something he can't stand?

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You also have people in your age range who maybe got out of bad marriages where the ex didn't want to have sex but once a year, etc. What seems like a given to you, is not such a given to them and their life experience. Going forward, they want to be sure that the next women will be warm and affectionate in that department.
I can understand that but I still don't really want to hear about someone's sexual needs before we've even had a first date.

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The bottom line is that if you see something questionable, ask about it later on. Don't leap to blind conclusions.
I hear what you're saying, but I think the Must Haves and Can't Stands you choose to send say something about you and I don't really want to get to know average looking men who seem to think they're entitled to extremely beautiful women who will want to have sex with them every day. LOL...Next!
 
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I had that "I can't stand someone who is overweight" because I'm not into that type of body shape.

You say "It's fine if you feel that way, but can't we assume that you wouldn't even be communicating with someone who you weren't attracted to, so what's the point of telling me that you don't like fat women? "

but often the photos were just face photos so it was impossible to filter people out by checking the photos.
 
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I don't have a problem with the sexual must have that you mentioned because people's sex drives vary widely so you can't take it for granted, but I agree that the overweight one is kind of a throw-away/unnecessary since presumably he wouldn't be communicating with a woman he considered overweight. I'd be interested in hearing if anyone shares why they chose that one too.
 
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but often the photos were just face photos so it was impossible to filter people out by checking the photos.
Decent point.
 
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but often the photos were just face photos so it was impossible to filter people out by checking the photos.
Oh ok. I have several full body shots, so that wouldn't apply to me. Perhaps they're just too lazy to change their initial MHCS choices to cater to each individual situation, so I'm just left thinking, "Why are they telling me this?"

Another one I don't like is "I must feel deeply in love with and attracted to my partner." Don't get me wrong- I would love to feel this way about my partner too, but I don't see the point in telling a potential match that because they have no control over how I'm going to feel about them. I would think the majority of people want to feel deeply in love and attracted to their partners, but when I see this as a Must Have, it makes me feel like the guy thinks that everything will be ok as long as HE feels that way and it doesn't matter to him if he's not exactly my "Ultimate Dream Guy" but I chose to ignore that because he had other good qualities.

Maybe I'm taking all of this too personally...
 
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Lastly, the "I can't stand someone who does not enjoy having sex on a regular basis" statement also turns me off immediately. I'm assuming that the majority of guys in my target age range (under 40) want sex on a regular basis, so why is it important to state that to a stranger?

Because some women in the under 40 range don't enjoy having sex frequently and I don't want to date those women.

What you have to remember is, online dating works different than offline dating. In offline dating, you begin with "she's cute", and it takes some time to determine if you're compatible in terms of wanting kids, marriage, frequency of sex. In online dating you determine that your long-term goals are compatible right away! It's then chemistry that it takes some time to discover.

I can totally accept some women closing me for having sexual must-haves. I like to screen-in the right sort, and screen-out the wrong sort. That's the point of having these filters.
 
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SweetKisses wrote :
I've only been a member of EH for about 2 months now and wouldn't say that I'm having much success with actually meeting anyone, but I know it's still early.

Anyway, something I've noticed with the guys I've started Guided Communication with is that their Must Haves & Can't Stands are turning me off and leading me to close the match. For instance, this one guy listed "I must have a partner who is considered 'very attractive' by most current standards" when he's really not a stud himself, so that makes me feel like he's shallow. I also don't like the "I can't stand someone who is overweight" statement. It's fine if you feel that way, but can't we assume that you wouldn't even be communicating with someone who you weren't attracted to, so what's the point of telling me that you don't like fat women? So I'll know that I had better not EVER gain any weight if we were to start a relationship? Once again, it sounds very shallow and I don't see the point in listing it as a Can't Stand because I would think the person you're sending it to wouldn't be overweight in the first place.

Lastly, the "I can't stand someone who does not enjoy having sex on a regular basis" statement also turns me off immediately. I'm assuming that the majority of guys in my target age range (under 40) want sex on a regular basis, so why is it important to state that to a stranger? Maybe it's just me, but it makes me uncomfortable when some guy who I've never even met feels the need to tell me that he needs a lot of sex in order for him to be happy.

So, are there any Must Haves & Can't Stands that turn you off immediately and make you just want to close the match? If you regularly send out some of the ones that I mentioned, can you explain to me why you think it's important to share those sentiments with potential partners?
I think you would fail one of my Must Haves:

"Self-Confident ... I must have a partner who knows and believes in himself/herself throughout life's ups and downs."

Since you don't believe that you are attractive, that you think you must be overweight and you have no confidence that you could satisfy my sexual needs.

Are you getting an idea just how silly you are being here???

If your match is communicating with you then he must think that you are attractive. The actual Can't Stand is Excessive Overweight. Hopefully you have decent photos that would give a little clue as whether you are too excessively overweight for your match. And what is a regular basis for sex to you may be something entirely different to me.

But you go right ahead and close any match that has these MHCS without having any idea what your match thinks they mean. It will save him time explaining what he views them as to you and can concentrate on other matches who views the MHCS as a place for ideas to ask questions about what the person actually thinks about things.
 
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I also don't like the "I can't stand someone who is overweight" statement. It's fine if you feel that way, but can't we assume that you wouldn't even be communicating with someone who you weren't attracted to, so what's the point of telling me that you don't like fat women?
It's often difficult to tell someone's weight from their photos. The actual Can't Stand is, "I can't stand someone who is excessively overweight." If you're excessively overweight, you're probably better off not communicating with them (or perhaps only communicating when you lose those extra pounds.)
 
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