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Here is my new favorite second question to ask

"What do you enjoy most about being in a relationship? What do you most enjoy about being single?"

I've received some interesting answers to this question.
- May 8th, 2008, 12:50 pm
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I know religion is a hot topic in many ways, but it's an important topic to me. I used to be mainline Christian and gave up religion for Lent in college, which was the start of a lifelong spiritual journey through atheism, then to believing, and from there through different beliefs. I like getting matched with someone who is "spiritual but not religious" because often they have some fascinating things to talk about in that field. People in specific religions often do, but there are also people who have never given a second thought to their religion. So for my first question, I always ask something close to, "Tell me something about your spiritual journey in life. How did you come to believe what you do? Can you tell me a little about what you believe? How does it effect your everyday life (other than just attending worship regularly)?"

People seem to like this question and I hardly ever get a short answer to it. Most women I get to that point with tend to use up as much space as allowed to answer it. It also tells me a lot about them. For insance, different people have different ideas about what "Christian" means and since many matches are Christian, this gives me a clearer idea of what they believe. Quite often it gives me other insights into their personality, for instance, it often lets me know if they're divergent or linear thinkers, have a fair amount of give and take, or set exacting boundaries.

Another I use almost every time sounds like a real PITA question (pain in the a-- er, ankle), but matches seem to like it is something close to, "I know this sounds like a job interview question, but I don't mean it that way at all. If your life went as you would hope in the next 5-10 years, what would it be like then? Would you be married? Children? Living in the city? Country? Would you be in a settled career or changing to something you always wanted to do?"

While most people tend to like to say a lot to answer that question, some are quite short, with answers like, "Life never goes as we expect, so I don't focus on that." (Sometimes I get an answer like that from someone I can tell has been through a 12 step progam with the "one day at a time" motto.) Just like with the religion/spirituality question, though, it gives people a chance to talk about something that is usually important to them and ties in with their plans, hopes, dreams, or desires. It also tells me if we have similar goals. If she says, "I'll be living in the city and will be at the top of my career and working 80 hours a week and be able to afford someone to walk my dog and won't have to do any more reading because I'll have passed all the certification tests," then I know it's time to close the match. If she were to respond, "I hope to be married to you so we can spend all our time together in a small cozy cottage," I get images of the ads from "Misery" and run screaming out the door for a good long bike ride to calm down.

Then for my last question, I usually try to ask questions that are more directly about something they've said in their profile so I can draw them out.

For me, often, I don't want the exact answer, but how they handle the question. On Chemistry, once, someone asked me, "So, really, how do you feel about aardvarks?" She said I had the most creative and entertaining answer she had ever seen to that question. To me a question like that means someone doesn't care about aardvarks, but wants to know if you get ticked at silly questions or are willing to take the challenge and be creative or silly.

The one question I just loathe because I got it so many times while my Father was dying of leukemia was what I would wish for if I had 3 wishes -- and of course, one was always that the docs could cure my Father's illness. Other than that, I've worked hard for what I have and am close to realizing all my dreams in life (other than having a family with a few rugrats), so I don't really feel a need to wish for things anymore.

Right now I have the 2nd match I've reached the 2nd questions with in over 6 months and she's asking me to describe my personal style and I have no freaking idea what style means in a case like this. I have no idea what my personal style is! I just do things in the way that feels right for me and that's it.
- May 8th, 2008, 03:32 pm
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I'll ask things like, if a dog goes into the future and bits his own tail, when does he feel it?

- May 8th, 2008, 07:08 pm
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GattacaFox wrote :

I'm still kind of getting use to this whole online dating thing, but I recently had a match close on me after I sent her the following questions...

If you could be stranded anywhere in the world for a month with another person, where would it be and who would you feel the most comfortable with; the most uncomfortable?

What do you find yourself being the most curious about in life or the world? For instance, something that you heard about and you just had to know more until you felt satisfied that your curiosity no longer ailed you?

They say life is about simple pleasures, what is your simplest pleasure, and how does it make you feel?

I though they were pretty straight forward, but apparently I had offended her or something; are these questions really that offensive, or are they just weird?
Good idea. However, the first question asks the responder to think about things that make them uncomfortable. Probably not a good first question to be asking. It's subtle, but you don't want someone to associate you with feelings of uncomfortableness. If you were in person this would be easy to avoid via body language, physical chemistry, etc.: you could see if the person were open to such questions, etc., and respond encouragingly. Online it's more dangerous. The other two are good, although a lot of people might find the second question difficult, and if so, that won't help you out. I like it, though.

- May 9th, 2008, 12:09 am
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JMWTurnerFan wrote :
GattacaFox wrote :

I'm still kind of getting use to this whole online dating thing, but I recently had a match close on me after I sent her the following questions...

If you could be stranded anywhere in the world for a month with another person, where would it be and who would you feel the most comfortable with; the most uncomfortable?

What do you find yourself being the most curious about in life or the world? For instance, something that you heard about and you just had to know more until you felt satisfied that your curiosity no longer ailed you?

They say life is about simple pleasures, what is your simplest pleasure, and how does it make you feel?

I though they were pretty straight forward, but apparently I had offended her or something; are these questions really that offensive, or are they just weird?
Good idea. However, the first question asks the responder to think about things that make them uncomfortable. Probably not a good first question to be asking. It's subtle, but you don't want someone to associate you with feelings of uncomfortableness. If you were in person this would be easy to avoid via body language, physical chemistry, etc.: you could see if the person were open to such questions, etc., and respond encouragingly. Online it's more dangerous. The other two are good, although a lot of people might find the second question difficult, and if so, that won't help you out. I like it, though.

AHHH, Thanks JMWTurnerFan! That makes reasonable sense.I never though about the ‘uncomfortable’ part in relation to them associating the question back to me. Thanks for the great advice. I will definitely keep that in mind.

- May 9th, 2008, 12:19 am
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um, I'm just posting here so I can find this thread again later...

But I guess I have a querie: Is it generally assumed that jealousy is a bad thing?

I used to ask the jealousy question, and eventually moved to the one about how your match feels about you having (male) friends [although in fact I've few close male friends] because I'm actually looking for the kind of guy who will be jealous about me. But I think my matches take the questions different than I think I mean them.

As a Christian maybe I've been exposed to a different definition of jealous [the Bible calls God a Jealous God, because He won't share His children, His worshippers, with other 'gods']. I'm not looking to be stalked by my boyfriend or husband, and I need him to (eventually) really be able to trust me, but I'm not afraid of a committment in which we could feel like we "own" each other in a certain and clear way, and I want to be with someone who feels protective and who would feel uncomfortable if another male stoods too close to me, and certainly who would defend me and my 'honor'. But almost every match I've had answers that he's 'not the least bit jealous,' and I *think* they do this because they think that's what I want to hear. Think I'm reading this right? Is there a way to get at my question without a big explanation of the nature of the vocabulary terms?

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- May 9th, 2008, 02:36 am
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You've all posted some great ideas for second questions - thanks!If I ever get to "second questions" with anybody, I'll keep those in mind.
- May 9th, 2008, 07:59 am
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Sadie32 wrote :

um, I'm just posting here so I can find this thread again later...

But I guess I have a querie: Is it generally assumed that jealousy is a bad thing?

I used to ask the jealousy question, and eventually moved to the one about how your match feels about you having (male) friends [although in fact I've few close male friends] because I'm actually looking for the kind of guy who will be jealous about me. But I think my matches take the questions different than I think I mean them.

As a Christian maybe I've been exposed to a different definition of jealous [the Bible calls God a Jealous God, because He won't share His children, His worshippers, with other 'gods']. I'm not looking to be stalked by my boyfriend or husband, and I need him to (eventually) really be able to trust me, but I'm not afraid of a committment in which we could feel like we "own" each other in a certain and clear way, and I want to be with someone who feels protective and who would feel uncomfortable if another male stoods too close to me, and certainly who would defend me and my 'honor'. But almost every match I've had answers that he's 'not the least bit jealous,' and I *think* they do this because they think that's what I want to hear. Think I'm reading this right? Is there a way to get at my question without a big explanation of the nature of the vocabulary terms?

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You do not have a clear understanding of the word jealous. You cannot take something the Bible says about God and apply it to humans like that. We are not God (at least not in the typical Christian belief).

Jealously is from insecurity, from emotional problems or from someone being scared of losing a person. It is not stable and calm, it is connected with a lot of negative feelings and is not the kind of thing that would be there when you want it and gone when you don't want it.


Wanting someone that is protective and wants to be with you only is one thing and that is not jealously. However, you have to find to what degree you want someone who is focused distinctly on you. For example, the kind of man who would respond if another man stands too close to you would never tolerate or be comfortable with you having close male friends.

Think about it: If your man feels uncomfortable because another man stands too close to you, is that same man going to be comfortable with you spendig time with male friends? If he is going to protect you from other men and not want them near you, then he's not going to tolerate you being emotionally connected to other men.

What you're asking for may sound good to you, but it is something that does not come from a positive, loving place. It comes from fear of loss and fear of not being good enough. If you really want this kind of jealously from a man, then you're also asking for what is associated with it, and that's what I just stated: someone who fears loss and fears that he isn't good enough. I don't mean just a normal fear of loss or desire not to lose, but one that comes from not being secure with one's self.

You're looking for two things, the first is a contradiction: a man who won't want other men standing close to you, but one that will let you keep your male friends and will learn to trust you. The fear that leads to jealousy does not allow for trust and can't be turned on in some situations and off in others. The second, to me honest, is an unhealthy relationship because part of it is based on insecurities, both his if he is jealous, and yours if you need a jealous mate, since it indicates you need someone to go to extremes to show you he loves you. That's not love, on your part, it's an insecurity of it's own type where you need something like that to reassure you that you're loved.

If this is something you truly want, you really should find a way to mention it in your profile because men who are not this way would want to know this is what you want.
- May 9th, 2008, 09:40 am
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michaell1999 wrote :

Here is my new favorite second question to ask

"What do you enjoy most about being in a relationship? What do you most enjoy about being single?"

I've received some interesting answers to this question.
I really liked your DINNER question. I will be adding that to my list. Here are a few I ask:What are deal-breakers for you?

What do you find most attractive in a woman?What do you need from a partner day to day?What is the one thing about yourself that you would like me to know? What is your most treasured possession and why?Which is the one job in the world that you would love to do? What is your favorite month of the year and why?

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This is a great topic..thanks for all of the good ideas. I like them all. The next match I get that replies to my profile I will have to ask them some of these questions..all are great..

I wish some of the people that answer this discussion board would be sent to me as a match! I have gotten more response talking on this part of eHarmony than on my actuall matches!

You all take care.....Pam
I agree Pam! Maybe we should make our own sub-committee for matching ourselves up with people here!
I suggested this on another topic. I think we should do it!
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