EstherM is offline EstherM Post #1  July 18,2011, 11:47am
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Thank you all so much in advance!

The one thing I am most passionate about:

I love sharing what I know and seeing the light-bulb go off (go on?) in the other person's eyes. I love knowing I've made someone else's life a little better. We're all in this together and we all influence each other and I'd prefer to be a positive influence rather than the alternative.

The most important thing I am looking for in a person is:

Marriage math: 1+1=1 (NOT 1/2+1/2=1) You must be whole in and of yourself. I believe successful marriages are between two people who are supportive, trustworthy, loyal, moral, and affectionate. You and I won't quit when the going gets tough. We will find a way, together! You have a good support system (family, friends, advisors, etc.) and you have turned to them for advice and help. You will complement me, not duplicate me! (Though I should add that complimenting me is a good thing too! *grin* ) Bonus Points: You love dancing or are eager to learn. (Yes, that's more than one quality. *laugh* Consider them listed in order)


The most influential person in my life has been:

My good friend Pam is a great influence on my life. She's generous, loving, understanding, and has her opinions and values and will stick to them! She's one of those very few people who doesn't get upset when you disagree or have a different value system or stick your foot in your mouth. She loves ya anyways. She's always there for you. She gives and accepts help and love with joy and appreciation. She says what she means and means what she says.

The three things which I am most thankful for:

My mother. There is nothing more comforting than the unconditional love of a parent
Skills and Talents - thank you, God, for gifting me with things I can use to make my life and other's lives better
Good friends - they've got your back and you've got theirs, laughter shared is doubled, tears shared are halved, you don't have to be afraid of sticking your foot in your mouth when with good friends.

The one thing I wish MORE people would notice about me:

Nada. I mean, when people first meet me and see my energy level, they don't realize that I do need quiet, private time...but I don't NEED anyone to notice that. When I need to be alone, I say so. Pretty simple. That's how I deal with anything I need you to know - I TELL you...with WORDS! Simple! If you don't get it the first time, I'll explain it a different way. If you don't get it the 2nd time, I'll thwack you over the head until you do. Simple! *laughing* Now where did I put that mallet?

The things I can't live without are:
kindness, affection, appreciation
my music (piano, voice)
books (sci fi, fantasy, science fact, etc.)
games nights & pot lucks
my friends (do they count as "things"?)

The first thing people notice about me:

The first thing people notice is an attentive, confident, intelligent attitude. I'm engaging and vivacious. (They also notice I have a hard time counting to "one". *laughing* )

Some additional information I want you to know:

About children: I say "maybe" because it is not a must-have item. I would LOVE to have my own. I think I've got some pretty awesome genes here! If it happens, I'll accept it with absolute, unadulterated joy. If it doesn't, I'll continue to take joy in everything else in my life. If you have children, I'm ready to make time & put in the effort to get to know them - what gifts they are blessed with, what dreams they have, how we can fit in each other's lives in a positive way. I consider it your responsibility to ensure the ex doesn't negatively impact me or us. Regarding pets - I have none due to allergies.

I typically spend my leisure time:

My quiet time is spent curled up with a good book (currently reading The Count of Monte Cristo from iBooks), knitting, designing unique knit patterns, & playing music (piano, erhu, lap harp). I am also active in my church and community, volunteering my time and the skills God has gifted me with. I am the local Games Queen and enjoy finding unique games to delight my friends. I love pot lucks and testing out new recipes on my friends. I enjoy caring for my friends kids when they have a date night. (I *will* get them addicted to knitting! Resistance is futile!) I also LOVE Salsa dancing. There are NOT enough hours in a day!

The last book I read and enjoyed:

"God's Mechanics" discusses how people with science/engineering backgrounds (i.e. fact-based minds) can also have strong spiritual lives. Instead of a dichotomy, one complements and supports the other. Fantastic read! If you want a peek inside my head, this book will do it. I also love books like the Tipping Point and The Barmaid's Brain. One is a great analysis of social trends. The other is a fascinating look at how the brain works. Both are well researched and entertaining. Then, there are my favorite fantasy authors - Guy Gavriel Kay and R. R. Martin. I love the rich detail in the worlds and characters they create.
 
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EstherM wrote :
Thank you all so much in advance!

This is comming from a target of yours... a 41 yr old male.

The one thing I am most passionate about:

I love sharing what I know and seeing the light-bulb go off (go on?) in the other person's eyes. I love knowing I've made someone else's life a little better. We're all in this together and we all influence each other and I'd prefer to be a positive influence rather than the alternative.


This is supposed to be ABOUT YOU and what interests you....why you chose your career...is their a cause you believe in or volunteer for...is their an interest or hoby you either would make a second career out of oruld never give up for a man.



The most important thing I am looking for in a person is:

Marriage math: 1+1=1 (NOT 1/2+1/2=1) You must be whole in and of yourself. I believe successful marriages are between two people who are supportive, trustworthy, loyal, moral, and affectionate. You and I won't quit when the going gets tough. We will find a way, together! You have a good support system (family, friends, advisors, etc.) and you have turned to them for advice and help. You will complement me, not duplicate me! (Though I should add that complimenting me is a good thing too! *grin* ) Bonus Points: You love dancing or are eager to learn. (Yes, that's more than one quality. *laugh* Consider them listed in order)


This comes off as a tad entitled and want it all.....1+1=1...huh.... age I have my own life already. I am looking for someone to complememnet me but also have the same interest as me...but I am not a hopeless romantic as you are in wanting this thing...that is likely unachievable.

The most influential person in my life has been:

My good friend Pam is a great influence on my life. She's generous, loving, understanding, and has her opinions and values and will stick to them! She's one of those very few people who doesn't get upset when you disagree or have a different value system or stick your foot in your mouth. She loves ya anyways. She's always there for you. She gives and accepts help and love with joy and appreciation. She says what she means and means what she says.

The three things which I am most thankful for:

My mother. There is nothing more comforting than the unconditional love of a parent
Skills and Talents - thank you, God, for gifting me with things I can use to make my life and other's lives better
Good friends - they've got your back and you've got theirs, laughter shared is doubled, tears shared are halved, you don't have to be afraid of sticking your foot in your mouth when with good friends.

The one thing I wish MORE people would notice about me:

Nada. I mean, when people first meet me and see my energy level, they don't realize that I do need quiet, private time...but I don't NEED anyone to notice that. When I need to be alone, I say so. Pretty simple. That's how I deal with anything I need you to know - I TELL you...with WORDS! Simple! If you don't get it the first time, I'll explain it a different way. If you don't get it the 2nd time, I'll thwack you over the head until you do. Simple! *laughing* Now where did I put that mallet?

This also comes off as....just.... offputting.what you wish others would notice are about hidden qualities you have that wouldnt be readily apprent.

The things I can't live without are:
kindness, affection, appreciation
my music (piano, voice)
books (sci fi, fantasy, science fact, etc.)
games nights & pot lucks
my friends (do they count as "things"?)

The first thing people notice about me:

The first thing people notice is an attentive, confident, intelligent attitude. I'm engaging and vivacious. (They also notice I have a hard time counting to "one". *laughing* )

Youe attempt at humore isnt working for me.

Some additional information I want you to know:

About children: I say "maybe" because it is not a must-have item. I would LOVE to have my own. I think I've got some pretty awesome genes here!
A big ego here....princess???
If it happens, I'll accept it with absolute, unadulterated joy. If it doesn't, I'll continue to take joy in everything else in my life. If you have children, I'm ready to make time & put in the effort to get to know them - what gifts they are blessed with, what dreams they have, how we can fit in each other's lives in a positive way. I consider it your responsibility to ensure the ex doesn't negatively impact me or us. Regarding pets - I have none due to allergies.

I typically spend my leisure time:

My quiet time is spent curled up with a good book (currently reading The Count of Monte Cristo from iBooks), knitting, designing unique knit patterns, & playing music (piano, erhu, lap harp). I am also active in my church and community, volunteering my time and the skills God has gifted me with. I am the local Games Queen and enjoy finding unique games to delight my friends. I love pot lucks and testing out new recipes on my friends. I enjoy caring for my friends kids when they have a date night. (I *will* get them addicted to knitting! Resistance is futile!) I also LOVE Salsa dancing. There are NOT enough hours in a day!

You are coming off again arrogance.ts my way or the highway...I will make you love kniting or I will knit something to you know what while sleeping.

The last book I read and enjoyed:

"God's Mechanics" discusses how people with science/engineering backgrounds (i.e. fact-based minds) can also have strong spiritual lives. Instead of a dichotomy, one complements and supports the other. Fantastic read! If you want a peek inside my head, this book will do it. I also love books like the Tipping Point and The Barmaid's Brain. One is a great analysis of social trends. The other is a fascinating look at how the brain works. Both are well researched and entertaining. Then, there are my favorite fantasy authors - Guy Gavriel Kay and R. R. Martin. I love the rich detail in the worlds and characters they create.


You have mentioned god a tad too much for my tastes. Saying God says you are religious and religion is a bigpart of your life..especially when you mention it 3 times,
 
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EstherM is offline EstherM Post #3  July 22,2011, 1:47pm
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Hello Ami!

Thanks for taking the time to provide your feedback. It's so helpful to hear what it sounds like from the other side of the computer screen.

I'm just a little confused on one part. I think you're saying it sounds like I'm asking for the moon. Could I ask you what it sounds like I'm asking for? Is it just the fact that I mentioned so many items or is there one or two in particular that rub you the wrong way?

My profile says (In the part where I say what I'm looking for):
"Marriage math: 1+1=1 (NOT 1/2+1/2=1) You must be whole in and of yourself. I believe successful marriages are between two people who are supportive, trustworthy, loyal, moral, and affectionate. You and I won't quit when the going gets tough. We will find a way, together! You have a good support system (family, friends, advisors, etc.) and you have turned to them for advice and help. You will complement me, not duplicate me! (Though I should add that complimenting me is a good thing too! *grin* ) Bonus Points: You love dancing or are eager to learn. (Yes, that's more than one quality. *laugh* Consider them listed in order)"

And your comment was:
"This comes off as a tad entitled and want it all.....1+1=1...huh.... age I have my own life already. I am looking for someone to complememnet me but also have the same interest as me...but I am not a hopeless romantic as you are in wanting this thing...that is likely unachievable"

Anyhow, I'm still open to feedback. I'd certainly like to hear from others how it strikes you. And please let me know what parts sounded fine. I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater!

Esther.
 
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I'm not male and not your target audience but I agree with ami. I find the whole profile off-putting. Your humor is embarrassing and your preachy manner is condescending. And the god thing is overmentioned. I'd scrap the whole thing and start from scratch. I'm sure there is a ton of stuff that is wonderful about you but this profile does absolutely nothing to show it. Find a few profiles on whatever site you use that appeal to you and notice what it is that makes them special.
 
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EstherM wrote :
Thank you all so much in advance!

The one thing I am most passionate about:

I love sharing what I know and seeing the light-bulb go off (go on?) in the other person's eyes. I love knowing I've made someone else's life a little better. We're all in this together and we all influence each other and I'd prefer to be a positive influence rather than the alternative.

This is NOT what you are most passionate about material. This is the place to talk about the thing that defines you. Are you an artist? A runner? Do you fly planes every day? What one aspect of your life is the most important?

The most important thing I am looking for in a person is:

Marriage math: 1+1=1 (NOT 1/2+1/2=1) You must be whole in and of yourself. I believe successful marriages are between two people who are supportive, trustworthy, loyal, moral, and affectionate. You and I won't quit when the going gets tough. We will find a way, together! You have a good support system (family, friends, advisors, etc.) and you have turned to them for advice and help. You will complement me, not duplicate me! (Though I should add that complimenting me is a good thing too! *grin* ) Bonus Points: You love dancing or are eager to learn. (Yes, that's more than one quality. *laugh* Consider them listed in order)
The 'marriage math' is lame and doesn't immediately make sense. I know what you are saying, but get rid of the cutesy formula. Your humour does not translate well into your profile, it comes across as childish. The sections in blue should be removed.

The most influential person in my life has been:

My good friend Pam is a great influence on my life. She's generous, loving, understanding, and has her opinions and values and will stick to them! She's one of those very few people who doesn't get upset when you disagree or have a different value system or stick your foot in your mouth. She loves ya anyways. She's always there for you. She gives and accepts help and love with joy and appreciation. She says what she means and means what she says.

This could be shorter because you aren't telling me anything specific, just a paragraph of generalizations. Details or a cute story about your friend.

The three things which I am most thankful for:

My mother. There is nothing more comforting than the unconditional love of a parent
Skills and Talents - thank you, God, for gifting me with things I can use to make my life and other's lives better
What skills and talents?
Good friends - they've got your back and you've got theirs, laughter shared is doubled, tears shared are halved, you don't have to be afraid of sticking your foot in your mouth when with good friends.
This is just a list of cliches.

The one thing I wish MORE people would notice about me:

Nada. I mean, when people first meet me and see my energy level, they don't realize that I do need quiet, private time...but I don't NEED anyone to notice that. When I need to be alone, I say so. Pretty simple. That's how I deal with anything I need you to know - I TELL you...with WORDS! Simple! If you don't get it the first time, I'll explain it a different way. If you don't get it the 2nd time, I'll thwack you over the head until you do. Simple! *laughing* Now where did I put that mallet?
This is pushy and loud - it feels as if you are yelling. And very condescending. The *laughing* just doesn't work.


The things I can't live without are:
kindness, affection, appreciation
my music (piano, voice)
books (sci fi, fantasy, science fact, etc.)
games nights & pot lucks
my friends (do they count as "things"?)

The first thing people notice about me:

The first thing people notice is an attentive, confident, intelligent attitude. I'm engaging and vivacious. (They also notice I have a hard time counting to "one". *laughing* )

Umm, yeah......okay, most people use this to mention an accent or their height or an uncntrollable giggle. This is pretty narcissistic.

Some additional information I want you to know:

About children: I say "maybe" because it is not a must-have item. I would LOVE to have my own. I think I've got some pretty awesome genes here! If it happens, I'll accept it with absolute, unadulterated joy. If it doesn't, I'll continue to take joy in everything else in my life. If you have children, I'm ready to make time & put in the effort to get to know them - what gifts they are blessed with, what dreams they have, how we can fit in each other's lives in a positive way. I consider it your responsibility to ensure the ex doesn't negatively impact me or us. Regarding pets - I have none due to allergies.

This is actually not bad, maybe the only thing in the profile worth keeping.

I typically spend my leisure time:

My quiet time is spent curled up with a good book (currently reading The Count of Monte Cristo from iBooks), knitting, designing unique knit patterns, & playing music (piano, erhu, lap harp). I am also active in my church and community, volunteering my time and the skills God has gifted me with. I am the local Games Queen and enjoy finding unique games to delight my friends. I love pot lucks and testing out new recipes on my friends. I enjoy caring for my friends kids when they have a date night. (I *will* get them addicted to knitting! Resistance is futile!) I also LOVE Salsa dancing. There are NOT enough hours in a day!

Please remember to indicate book titles with quotation marks or italics.
This section should be used to describe activites that make a match think "Gosh, I would love to join her!" Instead I see a homebody and couch potato who babysits while her friends date.

The last book I read and enjoyed:

"God's Mechanics" discusses how people with science/engineering backgrounds (i.e. fact-based minds) can also have strong spiritual lives. Instead of a dichotomy, one complements and supports the other. Fantastic read! If you want a peek inside my head, this book will do it. I also love books like the Tipping Point and The Barmaid's Brain. One is a great analysis of social trends. The other is a fascinating look at how the brain works. Both are well researched and entertaining. Then, there are my favorite fantasy authors - Guy Gavriel Kay and R. R. Martin. I love the rich detail in the worlds and characters they create
One book well-described is better than a reading list. Don't forget to indicate book titles.
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My comments are in red. Things that should absolutely go are in blue.

This is a really bland, non-descript profile. I do not know anything about you - not one thing. No real activites, no idea what you do for a living, what you listen to, nothing. If you are not going to share whatever skill and talent you have that you think is so awesome, you should not keep referring to it in your profile.
Your attempts at humor come off as awkward and immature. Leave them out completely.

I am commenting on your profile, NOT on you as a person. I might sound harsh but this is honestly one of the worst profiles I have reviewed on here - it is almost like a sample profile about a non-existent person. Tell us something about YOU!






 
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This is a really bland, non-descript profile. I do not know anything about you - not one thing. No real activites, no idea what you do for a living, what you listen to, nothing.
Well, some of those things I had mentioned in the "Something To Talk About" pages. I didn't want to repeat myself.

I'm also wondering - what are "real" activities? Do you really mean to say that all the activities I mentioned are worthless to everyone? Or are they simply activities that don't interest you?

It's really funny how two people can see the same fact and view it in two completely different ways. I care for my friend's kids when they're going out because I currently have the time, I love their kids, I enjoy doing things for others, AND I fully expect to be repaid when *I* have a family of my own. And I know they will return the favor. I do for them when I can. They do for me when they can. We take care of each other.

Does ANYONE out there value this? Or am I shooting myself in the foot to say that I care for the people around me and I have created a network of people I can rely on?

If that's the negative way that profiles are being viewed on-line, I suppose a major re-write is necessary. Time to roll up those sleeves and dive in yet again.

Esther.
 
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EstherM is offline EstherM Post #7  July 22,2011, 3:07pm
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Oh, and Dropdeadredtx, thanks for at least telling me what you would keep. That at least gives me a place to start.

Esther.
 
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My reactions are in blue text. Red highlight I applied to your text is something which makes me especially likely to close; green highlight is something which makes me especially inclined to write.

Keep in mind that a large percentage of matches are abandoned profiles, or non-paying members, and will not write or reply for that reason.

Matches who view and don't write, or close you, are the ones to be more concerned over - especially those who were active during a free weekend.

EstherM wrote :
The one thing I am most passionate about:
I love sharing what I know and seeing the light-bulb go off (go on?) in the other person's eyes. I love knowing I've made someone else's life a little better. We're all in this together and we all influence each other and I'd prefer to be a positive influence rather than the alternative.


This is not a good answer. I'd assume you're a teacher, and personally I'd be fine with this answer, but it does not distinguish you in any way.


The most important thing I am looking for in a person is:

Marriage math: 1+1=1 (NOT 1/2+1/2=1) You must be whole in and of yourself. I believe successful marriages are between two people who are supportive, trustworthy, loyal, moral, and affectionate. You and I won't quit when the going gets tough. We will find a way, together! You have a good support system (family, friends, advisors, etc.) and you have turned to them for advice and help. You will complement me, not duplicate me! (Though I should add that complimenting me is a good thing too! *grin* ) Bonus Points: You love dancing or are eager to learn. (Yes, that's more than one quality. *laugh* Consider them listed in order)


I'd have closed right away for this stuck-up, condescending attitude!

I won't even reply to job ads with this awful, smug, "you will" tripe (even when I was unemployed.)

I might, but not on cue like a trained circus dog.

***

One! exclamation! point! in! a! profile! is! one! too! many!


The most influential person in my life has been:

My good friend Pam is a great influence on my life. She's generous, loving, understanding, and has her opinions and values and will stick to them! She's one of those very few people who doesn't get upset when you disagree or have a different value system or stick your foot in your mouth. She loves ya anyways. She's always there for you. She gives and accepts help and love with joy and appreciation. She says what she means and means what she says.


This is an advertisement for you, not someone else.

Tell your matches about you.


The three things which I am most thankful for:

My mother. There is nothing more comforting than the unconditional love of a parent
Skills and Talents - thank you, God, for gifting me with things I can use to make my life and other's lives better
Good friends - they've got your back and you've got theirs, laughter shared is doubled, tears shared are halved, you don't have to be afraid of sticking your foot in your mouth when with good friends.


Good. Adding detail makes the generic answers stand out more.


The one thing I wish MORE people would notice about me:

Nada. I mean, when people first meet me and see my energy level, they don't realize that I do need quiet, private time...but I don't NEED anyone to notice that. When I need to be alone, I say so. Pretty simple. That's how I deal with anything I need you to know - I TELL you...with WORDS! Simple! If you don't get it the first time, I'll explain it a different way. If you don't get it the 2nd time, I'll thwack you over the head until you do. Simple! *laughing* Now where did I put that mallet?


This is a good thought expressed in a condescending manner.

I'd like to see it toned down, but it's a unique answer and one which expresses a favorable trait.

Lose the faulty CAPITALIZATION and overwrought punctuation!


The things I can't live without are:
kindness, affection, appreciation
my music (piano, voice)
books (sci fi, fantasy, science fact, etc.)
games nights & pot lucks
my friends (do they count as "things"?)

The first thing people notice about me:

The first thing people notice is an attentive, confident, intelligent attitude. I'm engaging and vivacious. (They also notice I have a hard time counting to "one". *laughing* )

Some additional information I want you to know:

About children: I say "maybe" because it is not a must-have item. I would LOVE to have my own. I think I've got some pretty awesome genes here! If it happens, I'll accept it with absolute, unadulterated joy. If it doesn't, I'll continue to take joy in everything else in my life. If you have children, I'm ready to make time & put in the effort to get to know them - what gifts they are blessed with, what dreams they have, how we can fit in each other's lives in a positive way. I consider it your responsibility to ensure the ex doesn't negatively impact me or us. Regarding pets - I have none due to allergies.


Very useful detail to have included.

I find this well-stated.


I typically spend my leisure time:

My quiet time is spent curled up with a good book (currently reading The Count of Monte Cristo from iBooks), knitting, designing unique knit patterns, & playing music (piano, erhu, lap harp). I am also active in my church and community, volunteering my time and the skills God has gifted me with. I am the local Games Queen and enjoy finding unique games to delight my friends. I love pot lucks and testing out new recipes on my friends. I enjoy caring for my friends kids when they have a date night. (I *will* get them addicted to knitting! Resistance is futile!) I also LOVE Salsa dancing. There are NOT enough hours in a day!

The last book I read and enjoyed:

"God's Mechanics" discusses how people with science/engineering backgrounds (i.e. fact-based minds) can also have strong spiritual lives. Instead of a dichotomy, one complements and supports the other. Fantastic read! If you want a peek inside my head, this book will do it. I also love books like the Tipping Point and The Barmaid's Brain. One is a great analysis of social trends. The other is a fascinating look at how the brain works. Both are well researched and entertaining. Then, there are my favorite fantasy authors - Guy Gavriel Kay and R. R. Martin. I love the rich detail in the worlds and characters they create.

You have a big head start by writing better than most matches.

In some ways, your profile seems thoughtful and you give a sense of knowing yourself. You seem to have a fulfilling life, and that's good.

Overall, this is solid in that it is reasonably free from negativity.

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There are some things I would close for:

Your writing "sounds" overweight to me.

I don't accept demanding, lecturing tone about what I "will" do or be (even when I am what she wants, and I usually am, I close for that.)

There is too much god (this is okay, since theological persons are presumably your target audience.)

The writing style isn't to my taste. (At least you tried to be funny, instead of claiming it without evidence.)
 
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