adventure714 is offline adventure714 Post #1  June 16,2011, 10:12am
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I'm a little confused...

REALLY Ladies! Why not have a coffee date with a guy that you are past step 2 in the communication process. You read my profile, see my pictures. I show i'm interested by responding promptly. In the last 2 months for me i should have met 15 people. I have met zero. And all my friends say I'm a great guy so, how do u it's not going to be a good first date? Usually, you have to date someone for a few months to determine if they are a keeper. Yet, I'm screened before meeting me in person. I'm not frustrated, just curious. Are the women on this site really that picky? What kills it after step 2 and before the first date?

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KikiAZ is offline KikiAZ Post #2  June 16,2011, 10:25am
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Hmmm have we reviewed your profile (here on EHA?). There shouldn't be a disconnect at that stage unless something is going on. I mean you know they are active. Do you have a bunch of wackyness in your MH/CS's???

(also if you look back there is a thread about a month old about coffee dates, some pro and some con, but that doesn't seem to be your issue)
 
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Step two should just be your Must Have/Can't Stand list. You shouldn't be exchanging external information to set up dates until Step 4, which is Open communication/Eharmony email. Are you trying to jump the gun and sneak contact info in earlier? If so, there's your answer. That is commonly viewed as cheap/sneaky/non-paying member tactics, and will get you closed in a heartbeat.
 
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Step two should just be your Must Have/Can't Stand list. You shouldn't be exchanging external information to set up dates until Step 4, which is Open communication/Eharmony email. Are you trying to jump the gun and sneak contact info in earlier? If so, there's your answer. That is commonly viewed as cheap/sneaky/non-paying member tactics, and will get you closed in a heartbeat.
That isn't what I gathered from his post...

I am guessing that he is asking why, if a gal makes it past Stage 2, thus indicating at least some semblance of interest, why aren't these gals interested in meeting up later on, after Stage 4...

If this is a proper reading of his post, then to the OP:

NEVER count on any Match that just happens to make it past Stage 2 from being really invested in anything.

Stage 1 and Stage 2 are simple and easy, and requires literally no effort on their part.
A lot of people will respond because they can, but you could very well be a backup to their backup to their backup at this point.

Stage 3 takes a bit more effort, and thus you will notice some "Poofers" at that Stage.

Once you get past Stage 4+ and have traded an email or two, and they appear to still be interested, then you can start to HOPE they won't Poof on you before meeting up.

But there are even some Matches that will bail as soon as you suggest a first meeting. It becomes too real at that point, and for some of your Matches, they are going to be unstable, cheating, know they will be caught in a lie, or otherwise problematic, and will bail once a meeting is suggested.

Basically put, never count on any of your Matches becoming first dates, even ones that have communicated with you.

You just have to soldier on, and do NOT get attached to any specific Match until you have met once or twice.

(And yes, I have had plenty of Matches I have been very excited about, only to have them Poof. So take it from me, try your best to dampen your excitement until after that first couple meetings, even if this is very hard to do!)
 
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Adventure714- it would be helpful to know how you handle things once you get to Open Communication. I have not met a lot of the guys with whom I reached that stage, but that is not because I was unwilling to meet them in person. A lot of these guys simply petered out in the communication. Or, they would be content to email back and forth without ever suggesting a meeting. Even when I started to subtly hint around... then not so subtly hint around... sometimes they still wouldn't take the bait. I am not sure if these guys expected the women to take the lead? That's not my style and not the kind of guy I am looking for, but I wonder how you handle that stage of communication?
 
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adventure714 wrote :
I'm a little confused... REALLY Ladies! Why not have a coffee date with a guy that you are past step 2 in the communication process.
Getting past steps 1 and 2 for me means I've glanced and saw no glaring dealbreakers. You haven't been seriously considered yet.

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And all my friends say I'm a great guy so, how do u it's not going to be a good first date?
They don't have to. It's enough to think "It's more likely I'd have fun hanging out with my friends", or "It's more likely I'd enjoy going out with that other date instead." And don't discount timing.

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Usually, you have to date someone for a few months to determine if they are a keeper.
True, but you usually know within minutes if there's chemistry.

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Are the women on this site really that picky?
Us men, too.

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What kills it after step 2 and before the first date?
If I'm not interested, having to read someone's profile carefully, write long questions, and answer long questions. Poor answers to the same.
 
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adventure714 wrote :
I'm a little confused...

REALLY Ladies! Why not have a coffee date with a guy that you are past step 2 in the communication process. You read my profile, see my pictures. I show i'm interested by responding promptly. In the last 2 months for me i should have met 15 people. I have met zero.
At what stage are they stopping communicating?...if it's after the mh/cs exchange then it's something there that's triggering it.

If they're hitting the brakes in OC then it's the questions your sending that's making them think twice...

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And all my friends say I'm a great guy so, how do u it's not going to be a good first date?
Your friends aren't exactly an unbiased audience.
Have they ever looked at your profile?
You can post post it here on eHa for review, also.
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Usually, you have to date someone for a few months to determine if they are a keeper.
I disagree..I don't need a few months. I need a couple of dates...maybe three.
In fact, I'd argue that most people...the vast majority, need only a few dates before they know.
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Sounds like my initial experience. Was very frustrated in the beginning, by not getting to OC with more matches. But eventually I fell into a groove, both in terms of pursuing matches I thought would be successful, and learning during GC that there would be meaningful conversation when I got to OC.

Sounds like initial EH user ramp up to me. Hang in there, we've all (mostly?) been there.
 
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