Ginsu2000 is offline Ginsu2000 Post #1  January 14,2011, 4:11pm
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Hello everyone,

I have a bit of a conundrum. When I first registered for eH, I wrote up a profile on the same night. I basically stayed up until 4am "shooting from the hip" in terms of profile-writing. And this was before I had read any of those articles on the web about "How to write an online dating profile". So essentially my first attempt at a profile was very raw, very authentic - my personality must have really shone through. Why do I think this? Because it was my most successful week on eH - I quite easily got to OC with 4 women that week and I think 2 more on the following week.

But then, due to the lack of further success, I got into this constant cycle of writing & re-writing my profile. It was partly because of all those articles on various websites about online dating profiles (not this forum). Now it's gotten to a point where it seems as if nobody is particularly interested in my profile, or if I do get some "hits", the interest fades away very early in the Guided Comm. process.

I hope that by posting my profile here I can get some useful input from you folks and maybe even restore some of the "personality" which it seems to be missing. I'm posting everything except for religious & racial categorization. Thanks for any and all feedback!
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The one thing I am most passionate about:

I'm passionate about my career and my family - I'm glad I have a profession I enjoy and that I have a great relationship with my family. I'm also passionate about my various interests, which include film, music, arts/culture, history, traveling, and meeting people.


The most important thing I am looking for in a person is:

I'm looking for a woman who is confident, straightforward, and intelligent. Of course, it's also important to have a good sense of humour and be able to enjoy life! A bonus would be if any of your interests/hobbies happen to align with any of mine.

About Me / Basic Information:

Occupation: Software Developer
Age: 31
Height: 5' 11"
Wants Kids: Yes
Kids at Home: No
Ethnicity: undisclosed
Religion: undisclosed
Drinks: A few times a year
Smokes:
Never

In my own words...

The most influential person in my life has been:

I don't think anyone has influenced me more than my parents, but my cousin comes pretty close. He chose to dedicate his life to his passion (music) rather than do what his parents wanted him to do... Similarly, I have an immense amount of respect for anyone who has the drive and passion to reach for their goals, no matter the obstacles in their way. They serve as an inspiration to the rest of us.


The three things which I am most thankful for:

* My close family & best friends.
* A good education.
* Living in this great country of ours


Three of my best life-skills are:

* Using humour to make friends laugh
* Negotiating business or financial matters
* Being a good friend and companion


The one thing I wish MORE people would notice about me:

That I am opinionated and talkative, but don't usually exhibit those qualities until I get to know people well.

The things I can't live without are:

* espresso
* a source of music
* a good book
* internet access
* my passport!

The first thing people notice about me:

People seem to be surprised that I can get sociable quite easily/quickly. They say it's because I come across as a "quiet" person. Maybe I need to dress more loudly? (ok, bad joke)

Some additional information I want you to know:

I consider myself an independent guy, having bought a condo loft some time back -- I love the urban life! But I’ve decided that I’d like to settle down at some point, which is why I’m on eHarmony. And although I’m listed as (my religion), I'm pretty liberal about it and open to all forms of belief.

My interests...

I typically spend my leisure time:

I love traveling, Europe especially - maybe the other continents soon! Film and music are two other big interests of mine. Loved this year's TIFF, got to attend my first "red carpet gala"! I'm just getting into running now. I'd like to run a marathon in 2011. Once the weather gets better, tennis and golf too! I love spending time with my close friends, which can mean pubbing/a night out or just chilling at home.

The last book I read and enjoyed:

"Amazing Grace" by Jonathan Kozol. An eye-opening account into the lives of children in inner-city America in the 80's and 90's. It certainly makes you aware of all the inequalities in our society as well as being thankful for the privileged lives we all have.


According to my friends:

My friends describe me as:

- Articulate
- Perceptive
- Easy-Going
- Intelligent

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BTW I'm on the Canadian eHarmony site, in case it makes a difference.
 
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Hi Ginsu -- There is a flavor of "professionally-polished profile". Did you keep a copy of your original profile that you felt was more true to you? Perhaps see if you can blend the two. I have put some comments below -- ways you could make it more "you".

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The one thing I am most passionate about:


I'm passionate about my career and my family - I'm glad I have a profession I enjoy and that I have a great relationship with my family. I'm also passionate about my various interests, which include film, music, arts/culture, history, traveling, and meeting people.
It's more effective to pick ONE thing and go into more depth with it. This reads a bit like a list of "these are things women like". Pick one thing you really care about, name it, say why you care, and say how you pursue it in your life. It doesn't really matter exactly what it is -- this is not a section where you're demonstrating "we have shared interests" ... it's more to give a flavor of your personality. Here's an example (copied from a post I made in another member's review):

I love to carve small wooden animal sculptures! I like exploring different types of wood and what possibilities they offer -- bringing out the inner elk in elm wood! My grandfather taught me to carve, and I still use his set of sculpture tools -- I treasure them. Last fall I had a show at a local gallery of my works.

This is not trying to attract a woman who also likes small-animal sculpture, or art in general, or animals -- it's just giving a flavor of who you are.


The most important thing I am looking for in a person is:


I'm looking for a woman who is confident, straightforward, and intelligent. Of course, it's also important to have a good sense of humour and be able to enjoy life! A bonus would be if any of your interests/hobbies happen to align with any of mine.
This also seems a little cookie cutter -- most people, male or female, could make this same list. It doesn't give a sense of who you are.

About Me / Basic Information:


Occupation:
Software Developer
Age:
31
Height:
5' 11"
Wants Kids:
Yes
Kids at Home:
No
Ethnicity:
undisclosed
Religion:
undisclosed
Drinks:
A few times a year
Smokes:
Never

In my own words...

The most influential person in my life has been:


I don't think anyone has influenced me more than my parents, but my cousin comes pretty close. He chose to dedicate his life to his passion (music) rather than do what his parents wanted him to do... Similarly, I have an immense amount of respect for anyone who has the drive and passion to reach for their goals, no matter the obstacles in their way. This is a good answer -- it does say something interesting about you, and is not run of the mill. But leave off this last sentence, it's a tad preachy .... They serve as an inspiration to the rest of us.



The three things which I am most thankful for:


* My close family & best friends.

* A good education.
* Living in this great country of ours


Three of my best life-skills are:


* Using humour to make friends laugh

* Negotiating business or financial matters
* Being a good friend and companion


The one thing I wish MORE people would notice about me:


That I am opinionated and talkative, but don't usually exhibit those qualities until I get to know people well.
I don't know if "opinionated" has the same connotation in Canadian English as it does in American English -- where it's not a good quality. In America it usually means "hard-headed, blowhard, won't ever concede an arguement" etc. Find a different word!

The things I can't live without are:


* espresso

* a source of music
* a good book
* internet access
* my passport!

The first thing people notice about me:


People seem to be surprised that I can get sociable quite easily/quickly. They say it's because I come across as a "quiet" person. Maybe I need to dress more loudly? (ok, bad joke)
This is an extremely common answer -- "I'm quiet/shy but not once I get to know you", but you have done it better than usual! So ok I guess!

Some additional information I want you to know:


I consider myself an independent guy, having bought a condo loft some time back -- I love the urban life! But I’ve decided that I’d like to settle down at some point, which is why I’m on eHarmony. And although I’m listed as (
my religion), I'm pretty liberal about it and open to all forms of belief. I remember reviewing this section in your previous thread and I believe it is now Perfect. :-)

My interests...


I typically spend my leisure time:


I love traveling, Europe especially - maybe the other continents soon! Film and music are two other big interests of mine. Loved this year's TIFF, got to attend my first "red carpet gala"! I'm just getting into running now. I'd like to run a marathon in 2011. Once the weather gets better, tennis and golf too! I love spending time with my close friends, which can mean pubbing/a night out or just chilling at home.
Good answer.

The last book I read and enjoyed:


"Amazing Grace" by Jonathan Kozol. An eye-opening account into the lives of children in inner-city America in the 80's and 90's. It certainly makes you aware of all the inequalities in our society as well as being thankful for the privileged lives we all have.
Well ... some people reading this are going to feel they are not privileged so could be a bit off-putting. Otherwise good.


According to my friends:


My friends describe me as:


- Articulate

- Perceptive
- Easy-Going
- Intelligent

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BTW I'm on the Canadian eHarmony site, in case it makes a difference.


 
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Sassafras54 wrote :
Hi Ginsu -- There is a flavor of "professionally-polished profile". Did you keep a copy of your original profile that you felt was more true to you?
Unfortunately that's part of the problem. I never saved a copy of my original profile anywhere, nor do I remember what the heck I put in it!
I wish eH would save "profile revision history" like wikipedia and we could just "roll back" to an older version of our profile... :P

When you say my profile reads as "professionally polished" is that a good thing or bad? I've come across plenty of women's profiles which also read similar to mine, in the sense that they are very well written...

Thanks for your other advice though!
 
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The profiles that appeal most to me, are written in a conversational style. They talk about hobbies and activities in a way that I could almost imagine the other person saying the words to me across a table.

I find overly essayish answers, with words that never get used in conversation, very unappealing.

You are probably making the same mistake I made when I was a member. Fine-tuning and tweaking and wondering "what is it that women want to hear?". Eventually I realized how futile this is, and I scrapped it all and wrote about my own life, in my own words.

Your passion answer needs to talk about actual, tangible, specific things. One thing, or two at most.
 
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I agree with melman.

The "professionally polished" air is not attractive to me (can't speak for all women).

- It makes me feel like I'm being advertised-upon -- like you're trying to get me to buy that car, or this soap, or -- this man, which is off-putting.
- There's a blandness to the professional wording that hides who you are, which is what I want to know.

It's really just in your 2 first sections: "passionate about" and "who I'm looking for". Look at the difference between those and your "additional info" -- it's conversational, it's unique, it's you.
 
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Thanks for the suggestions; while I continue to work on re-writing those sections, anyone else have any thoughts/tips?
 
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Ginsu2000 wrote :
The one thing I am most passionate about:

I'm passionate about my career and my family - I'm glad I have a profession I enjoy and that I have a great relationship with my family. I'm also passionate about my various interests, which include film, music, arts/culture, history, traveling, and meeting people. You love your family, you care about them, but passionate about them? Not so much. What is your passion? What interests you? What gets your blood going? Pick something concrete and tell us why. How did you get into? What appeals to you about it? What you have right now is a bland cliche that reads like a bad ad - look I'm employed, love my family and have interests, aren't I a good boy? Show your colors, who you are.


The most important thing I am looking for in a person is:

I'm looking for a woman who is confident, straightforward, and intelligent. Of course, it's also important to have a good sense of humour and be able to enjoy life! A bonus would be if any of your interests/hobbies happen to align with any of mine. This again is a cliche list. Pick a quality and explain why. For instance, humor is important to me because it can light up the darkest day and turn it into a great one. Not the best example but you get the idea.

About Me / Basic Information:

Occupation: Software Developer
Age: 31
Height: 5' 11"
Wants Kids: Yes
Kids at Home: No
Ethnicity: undisclosed
Religion: undisclosed
Drinks: A few times a year
Smokes:
Never

In my own words...

The most influential person in my life has been:

I don't think anyone has influenced me more than my parents, but my cousin comes pretty close. He chose to dedicate his life to his passion (music) rather than do what his parents wanted him to do... Similarly, I have an immense amount of respect for anyone who has the drive and passion to reach for their goals, no matter the obstacles in their way. They serve as an inspiration to the rest of us. Remove the parent thing and just answer the question. Most people can say the same thing about their parents and so more cliche fluff that you don't need in your profile. Just say "my cousin because..." It will give your answer more confidence instead of reading a bit wishy washy.


The three things which I am most thankful for:

* My close family & best friends.
* A good education.
* Living in this great country of ours


Three of my best life-skills are:

* Using humour to make friends laugh
* Negotiating business or financial matters
* Being a good friend and companion


The one thing I wish MORE people would notice about me:

That I am opinionated and talkative, but don't usually exhibit those qualities until I get to know people well. This is just another really tired variation of I'm shy but warm up and it's truly the cliche of the 21st Century. Also, opinionated has some very bad connotations. Trust me, if you are opinionated, it will take no time at all for people to notice that about you. I'd redo this entire section.

The things I can't live without are:

* espresso
* a source of music
* a good book
* internet access
* my passport!

The first thing people notice about me:

People seem to be surprised that I can get sociable quite easily/quickly. They say it's because I come across as a "quiet" person. Maybe I need to dress more loudly? (ok, bad joke) The humor is great. The rest is another regurgitation of I'm shy but warm up. Seriously, unless you are completely socially inept and tongue tied and will sit completely mute and terrified on your first date, you have no reason to put this in your profile. Stick with the humor, say something interesting, positive, unique, quirky or funny about yourself. Show your colors, be interesting. Don't suggest to your potential date that you'll bore her to death.

Some additional information I want you to know:

I consider myself an independent guy, having bought a condo loft some time back -- I love the urban life! The having your place thing reads as a bit braggy. Would be a whole lot more interesting if you said briefly what you love about the urban life. It would give better insight into who you are. But I’ve decided that I’d like to settle down at some point, which is why I’m on eHarmony. Not sure how this sentence is related to the first one - you can't be urban and be in a relationship? No need to explain why you are here - kind of obvious. And although I’m listed as (my religion), I'm pretty liberal about it and open to all forms of belief. Good info.

My interests...

I typically spend my leisure time:

I love traveling, Europe especially - maybe the other continents soon! Film and music are two other big interests of mine. Loved this year's TIFF, got to attend my first "red carpet gala"! I'm just getting into running now. I'd like to run a marathon in 2011. Once the weather gets better, tennis and golf too! I love spending time with my close friends, which can mean pubbing/a night out or just chilling at home.

The last book I read and enjoyed:

"Amazing Grace" by Jonathan Kozol. An eye-opening account into the lives of children in inner-city America in the 80's and 90's. It certainly makes you aware of all the inequalities in our society as well as being thankful for the privileged lives we all have.


According to my friends:

My friends describe me as:

- Articulate
- Perceptive
- Easy-Going
- Intelligent
My comments above in blue. Keep in mind that I'm only commenting on how what you've written can come across to a stranger reading your profile and not on you as a person. I honestly think that your profile is falling by the wayside because it's just too bland. It really does not make me think that this guy is interesting or funny or anything really.....there is no hook that makes me want to know more about you - does not stand out from the herd.
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