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kittylevina is offline kittylevina Post #1  October 15,2010, 8:16pm
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Okay, so I hope I'm not the only one experiencing this...

Lately, I've received communications from a few different men, all of whom asked me the initial set of five questions, which I answered and sent back five questions of my own.

Once we moved to the open ended questions, instead of using the space to answer the question I asked in a reasonably detailed way, they both said something along the lines of, "I like your profile! Find me on FB: John Smith from Tulsa!" or included their e-mail address/phone number.

Maybe it's just me, but I found this vastly annoying. I'm paying for the eHarmony service and I kind of want to go through the steps of guided communication that come along with that service. I'm actually looking for someone I could connect with for a very serious long-term relationship. Am I alone here?
 
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Odds are these matches are not paying for eHarmony.

Feel free to dump them if you wish.

Or, keep at the communication.
 
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Can you reply to eHarmony communication without paying? I didn't know that! Yeah, I've closed them.
 
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No, you're not alone. I used to get that too.

I think this could mean a couple of things: they are not currently paying members and are communicating on a free communication weekend (therefore they are giving out their contact info outside of eH in order to be able to continue to communicate with you after the FCW) or their subscription is about to run out.

I guess you have two choices. Overlook it and communicate if they're interesting or ignore them and move on to someone else.

On a side note, I did communicate with one match who requested communication with me during a FCW even though he wasn't a paying member and I had a decent first date.

Good luck!
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Thank you for the advice!

It can be so frustrating. I'm hanging in there, though. I keep reading the success stories and reminding myself that statistically speaking, I've got to get lucky eventually
 
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Can you reply to eHarmony communication without paying? I didn't know that! Yeah, I've closed them.
Yes, non-paying members can reply during a free communication weekend but cannot see photos. Some people habitually log in and communicate only during FCW's so they don't have to pay for the service. Against the terms of service but it happens.
 
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kittylevina wrote :
Maybe it's just me, but I found this vastly annoying. I'm paying for the eHarmony service and I kind of want to go through the steps of guided communication that come along with that service. I'm actually looking for someone I could connect with for a very serious long-term relationship. Am I alone here?
Hi Kittylevina,

There's also a different way to look at this. The guided communication is great, but some people really just don't like it.

I had a match early last week. We went through the whole process and eventually to eH email. The first thing I told her was that I was glad that we finally had some freedom to actually communicate with each other... she said that she normally does not like the guided communication, but when she'd shortcut right to email the men she'd contact would run away because it was seen as too aggressive.

But I would have welcomed it. I guess it takes a special kind of personality to want to do that. My view is, you're either going to hit it off with someone or not, and the guided communication won't change that.

The only problem is, once you move communication to phone, regular email, or Facebook - it becomes far easier for someone to find you (in a stalker kind of way). So a compromise might be to go right to e-mail but keep it in eH email, so that way you can close the match if they turn out to be a creep.

Good luck!
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Hi kittylevina and welcome to EHA!

What those matches are doing is against the TOS:

No Contact Information. You agree that you will not post any e-mail addresses, personal website address or profile page you may have on a third party website, or other contact information in the “About Me” section of the Singles Service or in any other communications you may have with other users. You may, at your discretion, exchange such information after you reach the “Open Communication” phase with your match.

The TOS also requires members to report this:

Reporting of Violations. You will promptly report to eHarmony any violation of the Agreement by others, including but not limited to, Registered Users.

Paid members can request that you skip GC and go straight to OC. You can accept or decline. So rather than send personal info, they should ask you to do that.

Unpaid members will solicit contact info to avoid having to pay for a subscription.

My personal POV on it is: if I didn't want to do EH's process, I wouldn't be a member. And I don't like it when people break rules to avoid having to pay for a service they're using; it's just dishonest.

FYI! You have to figure out how to want to handle this, because it does happen. Not that often though, in my experience.
 
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My personal POV on it is: if I didn't want to do EH's process, I wouldn't be a member. And I don't like it when people break rules to avoid having to pay for a service they're using; it's just dishonest.

Although I have to admit the accuracy of this, my "TOS" is that any merchants with whom I transact business must correctly present the value proposition offered in the product or service they are attempting to sell me.

In the case of online content, that means the content presented prior to a purchase must be faithfully representative of the true content which will be delivered upon payment.

In the event that the merchant failed in the above, I reserve my right to attain the value proposition I accepted, such as by receiving a refund of my payment(s), and / or, altering such payments past or future, and / or, using the service in a manner as necessary to restore the value I agreed to.

This is known as a "battle of the forms," or, absent that, a "contract of adhesion" in which no rights are provided the customer.

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While eHarmony claims not not to do so, the fact is that online dating sites generally have been caught using fake information and activity to fraudulently induce payments. This is also dishonest, and in fact constitutes fraud.

Presenting abandoned profiles to current or prospective customers is distasteful, and getting close to a murky area of acceptability.

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I am close to reaching your conclusion myself, though: that I am simply not comfortable with the terms and product of paid dating services, and thus unwilling to do business with them. Even eHarmony, which in some respects provided the best such experience I've had.
 
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