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NJGeek81 is offline NJGeek81 Post #1  July 21,2010, 10:41am
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Hi Everybody,

I haven't been having much luck with eH lately and I'm thinking of re-doing my profile. It's been a while since I've written it and some things in my life have changed since then that have given me clarity on just what it is that I'm looking for in a match. The trouble is, I'm not too sure how to word it without it coming off the wrong way. I'm hoping I can be as brutally honest as I can here and get some advice on how to phrase it so that it comes across as positive and not off putting. Also, since I'm looking for shared attributes, I'm not sure whether I should state "I'm looking for somebody who is..." or simply state "I am..." and state I'm looking for the same. A subtle point, but one I wonder on what most women prefer. I also am not sure what should be mentioned in a profile and what should be shelved to find out during the first few dates. So anyway, in a nutshell, here is what I'm trying to put into (better) words:

I want somebody who is a good communicator. By that I mean somebody who, apart from the occasional emotional stress we all experience, is self aware of her emotional state and can still communicate thoughtfully about difficult subjects in a level headed, logical way instead of throwing a fit and storming off and refusing to talk about it. Somebody who can express opposing ideas and criticism without getting personal. Somebody who is mature and has an honest desire to be an equal team player. Somebody who is actually intellectually curious and strives to ask questions and be independent when need be. Someone who wants to understand how I think before making harsh judgments about my motives. I know how wrong this can sound if not worded right but it's fair since I am more than willing to hold myself to the same ideals. As far as what I'm looking for in a quality relationship, this is extremely important to me.

The rest of the wish list, such as mutual interests, I can spell out on my own. This one, though, has me stumped. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
 
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I want somebody who is a good communicator. By that I mean somebody who, apart from the occasional emotional stress we all experience, is self aware of her emotional state and can still communicate thoughtfully about difficult subjects in a level headed, logical way instead of throwing a fit and storming off and refusing to talk about it. Somebody who can express opposing ideas and criticism without getting personal. Somebody who is mature and has an honest desire to be an equal team player. Somebody who is actually intellectually curious and strives to ask questions and be independent when need be. Someone who wants to understand how I think before making harsh judgments about my motives.
I think you should just say this as is. That being said, you will likely find that most people are not self aware enough to know that they are bad communicators and/or immature. You will likely have to trust your own powers of observation upon meeting to confirm these traits.

I do think a statement like this will scare off potential matches, but perhaps scaring off matches who don't want to be held to a standard like this is a good thing.

If you are going to put this in your profile, I would be sure to make other parts of it lighter and showcase your sense of humor (assuming you have one). Showing both a serious and fun side in a profile was always something that caught my interest.
 
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I think you should just say this as is. That being said, you will likely find that most people are not self aware enough to know that they are bad communicators and/or immature. You will likely have to trust your own powers of observation upon meeting to confirm these traits.

I do think a statement like this will scare off potential matches, but perhaps scaring off matches who don't want to be held to a standard like this is a good thing.

If you are going to put this in your profile, I would be sure to make other parts of it lighter and showcase your sense of humor (assuming you have one). Showing both a serious and fun side in a profile was always something that caught my interest.
Just to be clear, I don't intend on putting that in my profile. I just wanted to know what, if anything, I should put in that would further my chances of getting the attention of somebody like minded. Perhaps no mention of it at all should go in and I should play it all by ear. It just seems like such an important thing to me that I was wondering how I should go about it. Perhaps other women are looking for those qualities in a man? If you were skimming profiles, how would you like something like that to read? Stating "I'm a great communicator" sounds too generic, yet the full on explanation is a bit much. Hmm.
 
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I just received a match who stated in his "What are you looking for" section that he wants:

Someone who is able to laugh at themselves and is a good communicator, both verbally and non-verbally.

I couldn't help but wonder if his ex was always too serious and yelled a lot.

But, I thought the phrasing was very decent and positive. Anything more than this and you risk entering dangerous territory (could cost you).

I think that the longer and more detailed the list is, it really starts to sound like you have issues.
 
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I put in mine: "I know when to listen and when to give a back rub." I think that pretty much says it all.
 
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I hear what you're saying Geek and I want the same thing ... but I'm not sure there's a productive way to put it in a profile.

You can't know whether someone has these qualities without putting in some time IRL and interacting and starting to know them.

(Or perhaps more accurately, you can't know whether the 2 of you together can form a relationship characterized by good communication etc. -- I'm a great communicator with some people; with others it just never goes well. And it's not just them -- it's how the 2 of us work as a pair. )
 
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Actually, I like it exactly how you've written it. I would definitely be intrigued by a man who had this written on his profile.
 
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NJGeek81 wrote :
Hi Everybody,

I haven't been having much luck with eH lately and I'm thinking of re-doing my profile. It's been a while since I've written it and some things in my life have changed since then that have given me clarity on just what it is that I'm looking for in a match. The trouble is, I'm not too sure how to word it without it coming off the wrong way. I'm hoping I can be as brutally honest as I can here and get some advice on how to phrase it so that it comes across as positive and not off putting. Also, since I'm looking for shared attributes, I'm not sure whether I should state "I'm looking for somebody who is..." or simply state "I am..." and state I'm looking for the same. A subtle point, but one I wonder on what most women prefer. I also am not sure what should be mentioned in a profile and what should be shelved to find out during the first few dates. So anyway, in a nutshell, here is what I'm trying to put into (better) words:

I want somebody who is a good communicator. By that I mean somebody who, apart from the occasional emotional stress we all experience, is self aware of her emotional state and can still communicate thoughtfully about difficult subjects in a level headed, logical way instead of throwing a fit and storming off and refusing to talk about it. Somebody who can express opposing ideas and criticism without getting personal. Somebody who is mature and has an honest desire to be an equal team player. Somebody who is actually intellectually curious and strives to ask questions and be independent when need be. Someone who wants to understand how I think before making harsh judgments about my motives. I know how wrong this can sound if not worded right but it's fair since I am more than willing to hold myself to the same ideals. As far as what I'm looking for in a quality relationship, this is extremely important to me.

The rest of the wish list, such as mutual interests, I can spell out on my own. This one, though, has me stumped. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Well I don't know a lot about the profiles, as you learned in your other thread I pick up guys in a micro-brewery or at least I used to.

Right now I think it is funny that you would have run from my quirky sense of humor even though I hold every trait you just listed up there...hum....

What you want in a nutshell is a leader, someone with good self-esteem. Not sure how you would put that in a profile but it does cut that second paragraph down to size.

Good luck.
 
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What you want in a nutshell is a leader, someone with good self-esteem. Not sure how you would put that in a profile but it does cut that second paragraph down to size.

Good luck.
Well, I'm not necessarily looking for a leader, just somebody who can voice her opinion and operate more as an equal. In charge of some things but not everything. The main point being somebody who is more logical than emotional when it comes do dealing with serious issues and is capable of having level headed and thoughtful conversations instead of "debates" that are more about attitude and winning more than anything else.
 
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Well, I'm not necessarily looking for a leader, just somebody who can voice her opinion and operate more as an equal. In charge of some things but not everything. The main point being somebody who is more logical than emotional when it comes do dealing with serious issues and is capable of having level headed and thoughtful conversations instead of "debates" that are more about attitude and winning more than anything else.
Have you ever met a natural leader? They must possess every trait you listed or they wouldn't be one. I know of no other person that does. I was just trying to condense for you.

Fine then, you are looking for someone who is secure in who they are and willing to find the challenges in life. Does that fit better on a profile?
 
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