Rynok is offline Rynok Post #1  May 6,2010, 8:32pm
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Mostly a rant, but a few things I've noticed are kinda annoying.

1. So far no dates from eH for me, but the response rate is only about 1-3% or so (as in respond to GC), and that seems avg looking at other posters. Does that just seem super low to anyone else? Looking at girls in real life, I'd probably be willing to date more than 1-3%, at least 1 date if I knew they were single... Either I'm not picky at all, or girls are SUPER picky and only date 1/100 guys they meet. (Assuming you don't marry your first date, you gotta know lots and lots of people to get anywhere that way)

2. Much less closing with the new changes. I think people just archive you and forget. It's just extra work to close them out.

3. I don't get it when people only close you out after you check out their profile and start GC. Your matched, they view your profile, you GC them a few days later, and they close you out. Why not close from the start? Maybe because of #2 I imagine. Sooo annoying though either way.
 
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Mostly a rant, but a few things I've noticed are kinda annoying.

1. So far no dates from eH for me, but the response rate is only about 1-3% or so (as in respond to GC), and that seems avg looking at other posters. Does that just seem super low to anyone else? Looking at girls in real life, I'd probably be willing to date more than 1-3%, at least 1 date if I knew they were single... Either I'm not picky at all, or girls are SUPER picky and only date 1/100 guys they meet. (Assuming you don't marry your first date, you gotta know lots and lots of people to get anywhere that way)

2. Much less closing with the new changes. I think people just archive you and forget. It's just extra work to close them out.

3. I don't get it when people only close you out after you check out their profile and start GC. Your matched, they view your profile, you GC them a few days later, and they close you out. Why not close from the start? Maybe because of #2 I imagine. Sooo annoying though either way.
To start off with at least fifty percent (probably more) of the matches you will get will be non paying members (who can't respond to you). Of the paying members their chances of responding to you depend on several things. How much they like your pics, how much effort you put into your profile and if the content in your profile gels with them. Also distance is a major factor as well.

The success rate of getting people to communicate differs from person to person. The more successful people will have people emailing them constantly and the less successful people usually cancel their subsription because they don't have people talking to them.
 
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Rynok is offline Rynok Post #3  May 7,2010, 5:16am
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Thanks fo stating the obvious. Ofcoarse the beautiful people get more responses than the uglies, and ofcoarse there are a ton of dead profiles. You get that anywhere. Amazingly, girls will approach and hit on and actively flirt with the guys that look like models in real life too. Thus, top 1% of humans will attract 90% of population and bottom 1% get to live single forever. Not arguing that at all.

Assuming 75% dead profiles, given a 5% success rate means that effetively 20% of the people you message are real and interested. A 1% success rate means 4% of the people that are active took an interest enough to respond to an almost entirely automated system. I don't know, just still seems super low. I guess the thing that gets me is you go on a dating site, probably because you're not getting tons of dates in real life, and then decide you can't find anyone because their profile doesn't mention water skiing and writing novels? Just funny to me that people "actively look for a date" by sitting and waiting for perfect. I know I can read a profile, and for the most part, nothing stands out as "Oh my, this person is amazing!" or "Wow, what a boring person". Questions are generic, and responses are usually the same. (I've noticed the same thing in real life actually, annoyed by small things and they scratch said person off their radar)
 
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Rynok wrote :
2. Much less closing with the new changes. I think people just archive you and forget. It's just extra work to close them out.

3. I don't get it when people only close you out after you check out their profile and start GC. Your matched, they view your profile, you GC them a few days later, and they close you out. Why not close from the start? Maybe because of #2 I imagine. Sooo annoying though either way.
Yes.

#3 is absolutely a direct result of #2.

They had you Archived but didn't bother to Close you out.

But since you initiated communication after they Archived you, you were brought back into their Communicating Tab, and since Archive isn't an option anymore at that point, they then Closed you.

Gotta love that Purgatory (Archive) Tab!

We should rename it the "Ron Popeil" Tab... Why?
Because people "Set it... And Forget It!!!"
 
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Yes.

#3 is absolutely a direct result of #2.

They had you Archived but didn't bother to Close you out.

But since you initiated communication after they Archived you, you were brought back into their Communicating Tab, and since Archive isn't an option anymore at that point, they then Closed you.

Gotta love that Purgatory (Archive) Tab!

We should rename it the "Ron Popeil" Tab... Why?
Because people "Set it... And Forget It!!!"
You assumed something that the OP did not say. But you could be correct on what is going on.
 
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Actually you can still tell if they have archived you or not. If they have archived you their profile will be moved to your archived section and you will then have a little red/orange button that gives you the option to close.
 
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Actually you can still tell if they have archived you or not. If they have archived you their profile will be moved to your archived section and you will then have a little red/orange button that gives you the option to close.
My understanding was the Archiving process is invisible to the person being archived.

If the other person CLOSES you, then they switch to your archive tab and the orange Close Match button pops up.
 
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Actually you can still tell if they have archived you or not. If they have archived you their profile will be moved to your archived section and you will then have a little red/orange button that gives you the option to close.
Is this new? Initially, there was no way to tell.
 
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Mostly a rant, but a few things I've noticed are kinda annoying.

1. So far no dates from eH for me, but the response rate is only about 1-3% or so (as in respond to GC), and that seems avg looking at other posters. Does that just seem super low to anyone else? Looking at girls in real life, I'd probably be willing to date more than 1-3%, at least 1 date if I knew they were single... Either I'm not picky at all, or girls are SUPER picky and only date 1/100 guys they meet. (Assuming you don't marry your first date, you gotta know lots and lots of people to get anywhere that way)

2. Much less closing with the new changes. I think people just archive you and forget. It's just extra work to close them out.

3. I don't get it when people only close you out after you check out their profile and start GC. Your matched, they view your profile, you GC them a few days later, and they close you out. Why not close from the start? Maybe because of #2 I imagine. Sooo annoying though either way.
1 - My response rate has always been closer to 25% (or 50% if you count closes as a response). As I've posted elsewhere:
I get 7 matches a day
I'll usually open GC with 2, or 4 every two days.
Of those 4, 1 will usually respond to GC, 1 will close me*, 2 I'll never hear from.

* = Since the changes, I've been closed exactly twice: once when opening GC and once in OC when I didn't write someone back in forever.

2 - I agree there's less closing with the new changes. I loathe the changes, but the less-closing thing is clearly what the site was aiming for.

3 - I can't close matches from my mobile phone, but I can open them. I imagine others are in the same boat. I wouldn't try to read as much into the steps as you are (though I think your guess in #2 is at least partially true).
 
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You assumed something that the OP did not say. But you could be correct on what is going on.
Sure he did:

3. I don't get it when people only close you out after you check out their profile and start GC. Your matched, they view your profile, you GC them a few days later, and they close you out. Why not close from the start? Maybe because of #2 I imagine. Sooo annoying though either way.

1) They viewed him, probably showing up on the "Who's Viewed Me" list.
2) He initiates communication a couple days later.
3) They Close him.

The only assumption I made was that his Matches probably Archived him at #1 above. I think it is a very likely assumption, don't you?
 
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