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I'm just starting month 2 on eH and haven't had any actual communication yet. I'm getting very few matches that I have any interest in whatsoever and those very few all have closed communication immediately after being matched. Just looking for some advice on cleaning up the profile:


The one thing Andre is most passionate about: I am most passionate about my interests in independence. I constantly try to find more efficient ways of doing things, then find self sustainable ways of doing them. My dream is to someday have a home that is off-grid or as close to it as possible. I am also very passionate about my dogs, I have a great passion for the breed and I love events that involve dogs.


The most important thing Andre is looking for in a person is: I am looking for a lifetime relationship, a best friend, someone to share my passions and interests with. I enjoy physical activities from rock wall climbing and mountain biking to relaxing and staying at home watching a movie or going for a walk. I also look for honesty, good work ethic and motivation for self improvement.


Basic Information

Occupation:Technical Support Age:26Height:6' 0"Wants Kids:MaybeKids at Home:No
Ethnicity:White, non-HispanicReligion:Neither religious nor spiritual Drinks:A few times a yearSmokes:Never


In my own words

The most influential person in Andre's life has been:

My sister and I are very close. I often go to her first for advice and really look up to her.


The three things which Andre is most thankful for:
  • Life
  • Family
  • Knowledge
Three of Andre's best life-skills are:
  • Continuing to expand my knowledge and awareness
  • Achieving personal goals
  • Managing my finances

The one thing Andre wishes MORE people would notice about him is:

My sense of humor. I am typically a serious person, straight and to the point. When I'm hanging around my friends and people I know I get a lot more goofy.


The things Andre can't live without are:
  • Family
  • Friends
  • Health
  • A very diverse planet
  • Someone to share it all with

The first thing people notice about Andre is:

I am often perceived at first as being quiet and shy. When I'm around people I can share an interest with that listen I can really open up and share my knowledge and interests.


Some additional information Andre wanted you to know is:

I enjoy adventure. One day I sat down and thought about some of the things I absolutely must do at some point in my life and tried to prioritize them. Right at the top of that list is to swim with Whale Sharks. They are such amazingly large yet docile creatures and so little is understood about them and seeing them up close and in person in their natural environment would be such an exhilarating experience. I keep putting it off as I search for the right person to share the greatest of life experiences with.


My interests

Andre typically spends his leisure time:

I often just watch a movie. When I'm not watching movies I browse the internet always wanting to learn something new or expand my knowledge. I like fining things around the house to improve. I also enjoy getting out and finding something to do with friends, take the dogs out or the bicycle for a ride.

The last book Andre read and enjoyed:

I don't often read paper books. I much prefer reading on specific interests on the internet. I have a passion for cosmology so I am often reading editorials and watching/listening to lectures by one of my favorites Lawrence Kruass. The universe is such a mystifying thing that I enjoy trying to learn and understand it's origins and future.


According to my friends:

Andre's friends describe him as:
  • Physically Fit
  • Creative
  • Hard Working
  • Intelligent







Just to give an idea of some of my hobbies or interests that I should probably work in there somewhere is that I have 2 dogs and love to take them out lure coursing. I haven't done so in a while but I'm working on getting back into some of my past interests in rock wall climbing and mountain biking. Some of the choices I make in what I consider to be a good match are: 1) must be a non-smoker; 2) education, good work ethic and motivation for self improvement; 3) in terms of physical appearance, ideally I'm looking for someone who is no bigger than myself, I consider myself to be average to somewhat athletic in build, 6' tall and 160 lbs and would prefer a proportional siginificant other, I find it somewhat romantic to have the ability to carry a sig other from time to time, not the other way around; 4) having at least somewhat of an ability/interest to participate in physical activities that I enjoy (I would be open to some of their interests); 5) an interest in dogs is a plus but not a necessity. I typically close a match that doesn't fit most of the above criteria and those that are at distances I would be less willing to travel (>100 miles, etc) unless they appear to be a strong match. The small percentage of those that have matched the above criteria have all closed communication and never sent so much as a single response. I do have a few pictures posted; one at the beach, a few recent birthday pictures and pictures with my dogs. I'll probably be adding a picture of me on my mountain bike or something and more with the dogs. I'm open to suggestions. Thanks!
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Hi Andre --

I'll answer from the female perspective -- your profile is pretty good but I think there are a few things you could edit to make it more "female-friendly"; also I think it needs a little romance added -- it reads a little like you're looking for a best buddy; I assume you are looking for love?

Also, you didn't ask this, but I think you are looking for an unusual woman, and 3 months might not give you enough of a chance. When your subscription expires, EH will bombard you with promotional deals. You might consider extending.

ilusnforc wrote :
I'm on a promotional trial with eHarmony for 3 months and just starting month 2 and haven't had any actual communication yet. I'm getting very few matches that I have any interest in whatsoever and those very few all have closed communication immediately after being matched. Just looking for some advice on cleaning up the profile:


The one thing Andre is most passionate about: I am most passionate about my interests in independence. I constantly try to find more efficient ways of doing things, then find self sustainable ways of doing them. My dream is to someday have a home that is off-grid or as close to it as possible. I am also very passionate about my dogs, I have a great passion for the breed and I love events that involve dogs.

Are you actually a survivalist? If so this is fine. Although, I think your dating pool on a site like EH will be small and you'd probably do better in other venues for meeting women.

But if not, you're giving that impression ... and a lot of women will be leery of it. There's a difference between being independent, self-sustaining, off-grid etc and wanting to live in the backwoods and not have contact with society. Can you reword this paragraph to not sound survivalist (assuming you're not)? Note the term "off-grid" can be interpreted a lot of ways, from "I generate my own electricity" to "I have no truck with them guv'ment boys". See what I mean?


The most important thing Andre is looking for in a person is: Honesty.

Actually further down you talk about a whole lot of things you want in a partner that are more descriptive of you as a person. Really --- everyone wants honesty! it doesn't say anything about you. From what you said below I think you want someone who's "an honest outdoorsy woman with ...." etc etc -- whatever qualities you care about.

And this would be a place where you could insert some romance -- make it clear you're looking for love, not just a buddy. (Assuming that's what you are looking for!) E.g. "I like my life but the one thing that's missing is a woman -- one who's outdoorsy and can share interests with me but also bring love and sweetness into my life" or whatever makes sense to you. R-O-M-A-N-C-E (sung like Aretha's r-e-s-p-e-c-t)


Basic Information

Occupation:Technical Support Age:26Height:6' 0"Wants Kids:MaybeKids at Home:No
Ethnicity:White, non-HispanicReligion:Neither religious nor spiritual Drinks:A few times a yearSmokes:Never


In my own words

The most influential person in Andre's life has been:

My sister has been influential, I look up to her and usually go to her first for any advice on general life experience and we just have a sort of connection with eachother.


The three things which Andre is most thankful for:
  • Life
  • Family
  • Knowledge
Three of Andre's best life-skills are:
  • Continuing to expand my knowledge and awareness
  • Achieving personal goals
  • Managing my finances

The one thing Andre wishes MORE people would notice about him is:

Maybe creativity...? This is interesting! Perhaps add a sentence about how you are creative.


The things Andre can't live without are:
  • Food
  • Water
  • Shelter
  • Computer
  • Internet

The first thing people notice about Andre is:

That I love to share knowledge!


Some additional information Andre wanted you to know is:

I love to be adventurous and at times spontaneous.


My interests

Andre typically spends his leisure time:

I often just watch a movie. When I'm not watching movies I browse the internet always wanting to learn something new or expand on something, or find something on the house to improve.

The last book Andre read and enjoyed:

I often prefer to read things on the computer than in books. The last book I read was "The Lord of the Rings". I think just about everyone has seen the movies by now. I like the adventure.


According to my friends:

Andre's friends describe him as:
  • Physically Fit
  • Creative
  • Hard Working
  • Intelligent

Just to give an idea of some of my hobbies or interests that I should probably work in there somewhere is that I have 2 dogs and love to take them out lure coursing. I haven't done so in a while but I'm working on getting back into some of my past interests in rock wall climbing and mountain biking. Some of the choices I make in what I consider to be a good match are: 1) must be a non-smoker; 2) in terms of physical appearance, ideally I'm looking for someone who is no bigger than myself, I consider myself to be average to somewhat athletic in build, 6' tall and 160 lbs and would prefer a proportional siginificant other, I find it somewhat romantic to have the ability to carry a sig other from time to time, not the other way around; 3) education, good work ethic and motivation for self improvement; 4) having at least somewhat of an ability to participate in physical activities that I enjoy, and be able to share common interests (of which I would be open in return to some of their interests); 5) an interest in dogs is a plus but not a necessity. I typically close most matches that don't fit most of the above criteria and those that are at distances I would be less willing to travel (>100 miles, etc) unless they appear to be a strong match. The small percentage of those that have matched the above criteria have all closed communication and never sent so much as a single response. I do have a few pictures posted; one at the beach, a few recent birthday pictures and a recent Christmas picture with one of my dogs. I'll probably be adding a picture of me on my mountain bike or something and more with the dogs. I'm open to suggestions. Thanks!
 
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Hey andre - it took me awhile to write my post and I see you edited while I was writing. LOL!

Your newer version is much better. I still say add more romance, and make sure you don't come across as a survivalist unless you are one! Good luck!
 
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Thanks for the suggestions. Would you be able to offer anything more specific or any examples? Thanks!
 
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ilusnforc wrote :
The one thing Andre is most passionate about: I am most passionate about my interests in independence. I constantly try to find more efficient ways of doing things, then find self sustainable ways of doing them. My dream is to someday have a home that is off-grid or as close to it as possible. I am also very passionate about my dogs, I have a great passion for the breed and I love events that involve dogs.

This is awkwardly written - you could be into general conservation and an inventive person who likes to tinker with different ideas or a complete nutcase who thinks he can live without electricity. When in doubt, your matches will read it in a negative way and move on. It's also a bit long for not being clear. The dog thing is also vague - what breed, what about them?


The most important thing Andre is looking for in a person is: I am looking for a lifetime relationship, a best friend, someone to share my passions and interests with. I enjoy physical activities from rock wall climbing and mountain biking to relaxing and staying at home watching a movie or going for a walk. I also look for honesty, good work ethic and motivation for self improvement.

This is highly exclusionary. You have this long list of demands that she must match and the reality is that when it comes to a great relationship, it doesn't matter one bit if you go rock climbing and she goes swimming. As a side note, you might want to personally reevaluate what makes relationships tick. Anyway, as written, most women will read it, decide that it's too much of a laundry list of things they need to meet and move on. I believe the question is what one quality are you looking for. Try to stick with that.
Basic Information

Occupation:Technical Support Age:26Height:6' 0"Wants Kids:MaybeKids at Home:No
Ethnicity:White, non-HispanicReligion:Neither religious nor spiritual Drinks:A few times a yearSmokes:Never



In my own words

The most influential person in Andre's life has been:

My sister and I are very close. I often go to her first for advice and really look up to her.


The three things which Andre is most thankful for:
  • Life
  • Family
  • Knowledge
Three of Andre's best life-skills are:
  • Continuing to expand my knowledge and awareness
  • Achieving personal goals
  • Managing my finances

The one thing Andre wishes MORE people would notice about him is:

My sense of humor. I am typically a serious person, straight and to the point. When I'm hanging around my friends and people I know I get a lot more goofy.


The things Andre can't live without are:
  • Family
  • Friends
  • Health
  • A very diverse planet
  • Someone to share it all with this is a bit desperate

The first thing people notice about Andre is:

I am often perceived at first as being quiet and shy. When I'm around people I can share an interest with that listen I can really open up and share my knowledge and interests. This is awkwardly worded and needs to be rewritten.


Some additional information Andre wanted you to know is:

I enjoy adventure. One day I sat down and thought about some of the things I absolutely must do at some point in my life and tried to prioritize them. Right at the top of that list is to swim with Whale Sharks. They are such amazingly large yet docile creatures and so little is understood about them and seeing them up close and in person in their natural environment would be such an exhilarating experience. I keep putting it off as I search for the right person to share the greatest of life experiences with. Don't put your life and plans on hold. Again, this is exclusionary. You may be passing by a fantastic woman who is outdoorsy, loves dogs and would be a great match, but swimming with sharks is not her idea of adventure and so she'll close you out. Remember that when someone is reading your profile, you don't have a chance to explain anything or offer compromise. People reading it are making snap judgments. So the want to swim with the sharks is great, but I'd take that last sentence off about waiting to meet the right person.


My interests

Andre typically spends his leisure time:

I often just watch a movie. When I'm not watching movies I browse the internet always wanting to learn something new or expand my knowledge. I like fining things around the house to improve. I also enjoy getting out and finding something to do with friends, take the dogs out or the bicycle for a ride. Interesting......so from all of the above you come across as some crazy active guy who may be way over the top. This seems like you are just the average Joe who sits at a computer, does some house work, takes his dogs out and hangs out with friends. Who are you? Which picture is the more truthful one?

The last book Andre read and enjoyed:

I don't often read paper books. I much prefer reading on specific interests on the internet. I have a passion for cosmology so I am often reading editorials and watching/listening to lectures by one of my favorites Lawrence Kruass. The universe is such a mystifying thing that I enjoy trying to learn and understand it's origins and future.


According to my friends:

Andre's friends describe him as:
  • Physically Fit
  • Creative
  • Hard Working
  • Intelligent
Be honest and clear about who you are right now, today. Don't pad your profile. Too many men do and it's actually a turn off. If you are into outdoors - say so, but also qualify by how much. A hike once or twice a year is not the same as disappearing into the mountains for a couple of months. For most women, more normal will appeal while over the top will not.
 
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OK here's a little more specificity on your newer version ... with the goals being (1) making it clear you have space in your life for a woman and you want one, and (2) avoiding terminology that has a lot of different interpretations, some of which are negative and will cause women to close you.

Overall I like your profile ... if I received one like this, it would stand out from the others for me; it presents a non-generic picture of a man who is not just trying to say what he thinks women want to hear.

ilusnforc wrote :
I'm just starting month 2 on eH and haven't had any actual communication yet. I'm getting very few matches that I have any interest in whatsoever and those very few all have closed communication immediately after being matched. Just looking for some advice on cleaning up the profile:


The one thing Andre is most passionate about: I am most passionate about my interests in independence. I constantly try to find more efficient ways of doing things, then find self sustainable ways of doing them. My dream is to someday have a home that is off-grid or as close to it as possible. I am also very passionate about my dogs, I have a great passion for the breed and I love events that involve dogs.

"being interested in independence" can be interpreted a lot of different ways. Why do you want independence and what is "independence" to you? If you could state that, this would be a clearer paragraph. Ecological concerns? Financial freedom? or what? E.g. "I love the earth and so am passionate about finding ways to mitigate my impact on it ... I look for energy efficiency, sustainable products, ...."

Name your dogs and their breed ... it creates a clearer picture of you. "I am passionate about my collies Rover and Fido and love taking them out gamboling and to agility events."




The most important thing Andre is looking for in a person is: I am looking for a lifetime relationship, a best friend, someone to share my passions and interests with and who wants to share hers with me. I enjoy physical activities from rock wall climbing and mountain biking to relaxing and staying at home watching a movie or going for a walk. I also look for honesty, good work ethic and motivation for self improvement.

Need to work in that you don't expect her to take on all of your activities -- not that many women do all the things you have listed and you don't want to get closed because some woman says "well I bike and surf but I don't rock climb so this won't work".

Also this could be a place (or "additional info") to mention your hopes or attitudes about having kids ... this is an important issue for most people, and a lot of women in your age group already have children and are going to want to know where you stand with that.


Basic Information

Occupation:Technical Support Age:26Height:6' 0"Wants Kids:MaybeKids at Home:No
Ethnicity:White, non-HispanicReligion:Neither religious nor spiritual Drinks:A few times a yearSmokes:Never



In my own words

The most influential person in Andre's life has been:

My sister and I are very close. I often go to her first for advice and really look up to her.


The three things which Andre is most thankful for:
  • Life
  • Family
  • Knowledge
Three of Andre's best life-skills are:
  • Continuing to expand my knowledge and awareness
  • Achieving personal goals
  • Managing my finances

The one thing Andre wishes MORE people would notice about him is:

My sense of humor. I am typically a serious person, straight and to the point. When I'm hanging around my friends and people I know I get a lot more goofy.


The things Andre can't live without are:
[LIST][*][COLOR=black][*]Family[*]Friends[*]Health[*]A very diverse planet[*]Someone to share it all with Some additional information Andre wanted you to know is:

I enjoy adventure. One day I sat down and thought about some of the things I absolutely must do at some point in my life and tried to prioritize them. Right at the top of that list is to swim with Whale Sharks. They are such amazingly large yet docile creatures and so little is understood about them and seeing them up close and in person in their natural environment would be such an exhilarating experience. I keep putting it off as I search for the right person to share the greatest of life experiences with.

Delete the last sentence. Would you really turn a woman down because she doesn't want to swim with sharks? Perhaps you could say something like "A woman who wants to swim with sharks would be a huge plus ... but it doesn't have to be literally sharks! It's more the adventuresome, love-of-life attitude I'm looking for"


My interests

Andre typically spends his leisure time:

I often just watch a movie. When I'm not watching movies I browse the internet always wanting to learn something new or expand my knowledge. I like fining finding things around the house to improve. I also enjoy getting out and finding something to do with friends, take the dogs out or the bicycle for a ride.

The last book Andre read and enjoyed:

I don't often read paper books. I much prefer reading on specific interests on the internet. I have a passion for cosmology so I am often reading editorials and watching/listening to lectures by one of my favorites Lawrence Kruass. The universe is such a mystifying thing that I enjoy trying to learn and understand it's its origins and future.


According to my friends:

Andre's friends describe him as:
  • Physically Fit
  • Creative
  • Hard Working
  • Intelligent







Just to give an idea of some of my hobbies or interests that I should probably work in there somewhere is that I have 2 dogs and love to take them out lure coursing. I haven't done so in a while but I'm working on getting back into some of my past interests in rock wall climbing and mountain biking. Some of the choices I make in what I consider to be a good match are: 1) must be a non-smoker; 2) education, good work ethic and motivation for self improvement; 3) in terms of physical appearance, ideally I'm looking for someone who is no bigger than myself, I consider myself to be average to somewhat athletic in build, 6' tall and 160 lbs and would prefer a proportional siginificant other, I find it somewhat romantic to have the ability to carry a sig other from time to time, not the other way around; 4) having at least somewhat of an ability/interest to participate in physical activities that I enjoy (I would be open to some of their interests); 5) an interest in dogs is a plus but not a necessity. I typically close a match that doesn't fit most of the above criteria and those that are at distances I would be less willing to travel (>100 miles, etc) unless they appear to be a strong match. The small percentage of those that have matched the above criteria have all closed communication and never sent so much as a single response. I do have a few pictures posted; one at the beach, a few recent birthday pictures and pictures with my dogs. I'll probably be adding a picture of me on my mountain bike or something and more with the dogs. I'm open to suggestions. Thanks!
Add a picture of you in your home (unless it's horrendous of course! lol) or backyard ... something more domestic. Perhaps with your dog in front of a fireplace or something. (Not in the bedroom, not in the kitchen unless you're cooking.)
 
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I'm a straight dude, so weight my opinion accordingly, but leading with a desire to live off the grid is an oddity at eH. Commercial internet sites are as "on the grid" as you can get. Your audience is predisposed to do a head-tilt on reading that one.

Not saying it's a bad goal, but you should probably add some context to this.
 
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Wow, very critical but I am pleased to hear the comments. It really gives me a better understanding that there are certain details to highlight or omit up front and others to be talked about later in communication. It's difficult to portray yourself from your own perspective but this should be a much more accurate representation of myself. Here goes with a few edits:


The one thing Andre is most passionate about:
I am very passionate about my two Afghan Hounds, I enjoy going to dog shows taking them out lure coursing. I am also an advocate of "leave it better than you found it". I can be very resourceful in finding ways to offset my impact on the world in positive ways (recycling, energy conservation). I have a lot of interest in modern self sustainability, ideally I'd like to reduce my dependence on resources (electricity, water, gas, etc) to the point where I can supply them myself using solar/wind power and rainwater collection without being noticeably different from typical modern suburbia.


The most important thing Andre is looking for in a person is: I am looking for a lifetime relationship, someone to share passions and interests with. I also look for honesty, good work ethic and motivation for self improvement. A willingness to try something new and engage in physical activities from time to time would be a plus.

Basic Information

Occupation:Technical Support Age:26Height:6' 0"Wants Kids:MaybeKids at Home:No





Ethnicity:White, non-HispanicReligion:Neither religious nor spiritual Drinks:A few times a yearSmokes:Never


In my own words

The most influential person in Andre's life has been:

My sister and I are very close. I often go to her first for advice and really look up to her.


The three things which Andre is most thankful for:
  • Life
  • Family
  • Knowledge
Three of Andre's best life-skills are:
  • Continuing to expand my knowledge and awareness
  • Achieving personal goals
  • Managing my finances
The one thing Andre wishes MORE people would notice about him is:

My sense of humor. I am typically serious, straight and to the point around new people I don't know very well. When I'm hanging around my friends and people I know I get a lot more goofy.


The things Andre can't live without are:
  • Family
  • Friends
  • Health
  • Knowledge
  • A very diverse planet
The first thing people notice about Andre is:

I am often perceived at first as being quiet and shy. Once I get to know a person I open up and talk a lot more.


Some additional information Andre wanted you to know is:

I enjoy adventure. There are places and things in the world that I would love to see at some point in my life and I would like to travel periodically to see them.


My interests

Andre typically spends his leisure time:

I do enjoy those quiet nights to cuddle and watch a movie. I also do a lot of researching on the internet always learning something new. Home improvement is non-stop, always room for improvements! I enjoy getting out and finding something to do with friends or take the dogs out for a walk. Occasionally I will take a little extra time off to enjoy some recreational activities such as mountain biking, rock wall climbing, camping, hiking, etc.

The last book Andre read and enjoyed:

I don't often read paper books. I much prefer reading on specific interests on the internet. I have a passion for cosmology so I often read editorials and watch/listen to lectures, my favorite being Lawrence Krauss. The universe is such a mystifying thing and I enjoy trying to learn and understand its origins and future.


According to my friends:

Andre's friends describe him as:
  • Physically Fit
  • Creative
  • Hard Working
  • Intelligent
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I like the changes. Your profile is much more cohesive and makes sense. Also, it strikes a nice balance where you've shown that you are interesting but left off enough for me to want to know more. It's actually one of very few profiles I've seen where writing the first e-mail would be easy and I'd be looking forward to your answers.
 
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Yes, good edits. Do you feel like it accurately describes you as it is now? If so, I think it's a good one. I think a lot of women you'd be interested in would be able to find points of connection, and it's inviting. Good luck with it!
 
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