coffeetogoplease is offline coffeetogoplease Post #1  April 9,2010, 9:11am
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Update: I have made the revisions that are underlined/in italics based on some great feedback. Does it still read too generic? Other suggestions?

Thanks so much.


Hi - I appreciate the great feedback I have seen others receive and would appreciate any comments you have on my profile. I have been on EH for 3 months - I need help! Not getting to dates with the guys I think I have the best connections with. I just updated my profile and pics - based partly on feedback others have received. Thanks in advance!

My avi is my primary photo - I have a couple of others including a full body shot.

Occupation:Strategic Marketing Age:52Height:5' 4"Wants Kids:Maybe


Ethnicity:White, non-HispanicReligion:Christian Drinks:About once a weekSmokes:Never

Most passionate about:The one thing Cynthia is most passionate about:
Living an interesting and fulfilling life. For me this means learning and trying new things, including art and culture in my life, meeting interesting people and traveling to see how other people live. Helping others through mentoring anf volunteering. Nurturing my children.

What I am looking for: e most important thing Cynthia is looking An optimistic man who enjoys his life but wants to enhance it with a relationship. Intelligence and compassion. I value openness and honesty. Did I mention funny is good?





The most influential person in her life has been:

My grandmother. She was an amazing and accomplished woman. She taught me strength with compassion, to be happy and not worry, to help others, to love life and embrace its challenges, to dream. She was the first woman to graduate from her University and one of the first to play basketball. And she wasn't tall - just living her dream
The three things which she is most thankful for:
  • My children. They enrich my world.
  • That life is full of surprises.
  • I am lucky to have a rewarding career, great family and friends
Three of her best life-skills are:
  • Being a good friend and companion
  • Finding creative solutions to everyday problems
  • Using humor to make friends laugh
The one thing she wishes MORE people would notice about her is:

I really don't know. Maybe that I am Canadian. Yep I AM that nice, eh.


The things she can't live without are:
    • My 3 children
    • Music - eclectic tastes depending on my mood
    • Books- I read every day.
    • Fun
    • Exploration - new places, people, ideas
The first thing people notice about her is:

I am easy to talk to - I am really interested in other people and their stories.


Some additional information she wanted you to know is:

My life is busy but not too busy for a great relationship. I am an open person who shares freely. And I love to laugh. Can you make me laugh?


My interests

She typically spends her leisure time:

I love the water - I learned to swim in the ocean, I used to swim competitively and it remains one of my favorite activities. A beach day is a good day. Love live theatre, music at Ravinia and amd musuems. I love to travel - everything from camping to 5 star hotels. I am a very amateur but enthusiastic photographer - I am doing project 365 where I capture a moment of my life in a photo every day. I would love help mastering my rebel xti. I exercise because it is good for me but I would rather hike in a forest preserve, bike or do something else active.

The last book she read and enjoyed:

The Kite Runner. Fascinating description of a very interesting culture I didn't know enough about. I confess to relaxing with chicklit too.


According to my friends:

Her friends describe her as:
  • Affectionate
  • Happy
  • Optimistic
  • Intelligent
One thing that only her best friends know is:

I have lived in three countries and loved each one.

One thing I struggle with is that my kids are younger than most women my age have - I can't seem to work that in without it seeming too off putting - ideas? Any feedback will be greatly appreciated!
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Hi Coffee!
Overall it's a pretty good profile and your photo is excellent; a couple specific comments below.

I have the sense you're underplaying yourself a little. I'm not sure this profile would raise its little hand and say "I'm a good one!" to a man who's been on EH for awhile and has read 100's of profiles. It's somewhat generic. Billions of women love coffee, books, the outdoors, their family, etc. What distinguishes you? Ask your friends if you're not sure.

Where's your "passions" section -- the first one on a profile? I know EH has changed the format just lately but surely that's still there? Maybe that's where you define yourself more?

The three things which she is most thankful for:
  • My children. They enrich my world.
  • My other family. I had to stop and think "what other family?" -- I assume you mean your family other than your children but it sounds like you have 2 separate families. Reword. I have been blessed with supportive and enriching family relationships.
  • I am lucky to have a rewarding career, wonderful experiences, great relationships



The things she can't live without are:
  • My 3 children
  • Music - eclectic tastes depending on my mood
  • Books- I read every day.
  • Great Coffee (see 1 above) what is this "1" referring to?
  • Exploration - new places, people, ideas

One thing that only her best friends know is:

I have lived in three countries and loved each one.

One thing I struggle with is that my kids are younger than most women my age have - I can't seem to work that in without it seeming too off putting - ideas? Any feedback will be greatly appreciated!
Young enough to live with you? Perhaps add that to the "can't live without" section above --- "my 3 children aged 10-15" or whatever they are. Don't worry about it being off-putting ... men who don't want to deal with young kids living at home can screen you out with their preference settings.
 
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Sassafras - thanks so much. I edited to add the first two sections - didn't realize they hadn't pasted. I don't think they fix your point about generic though. I am going to think some more about how to portray me better. I appreciate the other fixes too - good points

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Occupation:Strategic Marketing Age:52Height:5' 4"Wants Kids:Maybe
Ethnicity:White, non-HispanicReligion:Christian Drinks:About once a weekSmokes:Never

All fine

The most influential person in her life has been:

My grandmother. She was an amazing and accomplished woman. She taught me strength with compassion, to be happy and not worry, to help others, to love life and embrace its challenges, to dream.

Nothing wrong with this as such. There is no single thing which grabs the eye, though. Is there something evocative to punch it up a little, something you particularly associate with her, a memory, an anecdote ? Sorry, it probably runs against instincts to do so. It would mine if someone suggested I do this.I have seen this done in a couple of profiles, and it worked from a "show, not tell" point of view.

The three things which she is most thankful for:
  • My children. They enrich my world.
  • My other family. I have been blessed with supportive and enriching family relationships.
  • I am lucky to have a rewarding career, wonderful experiences, great relationships

I concur with another poster. The inclarity of my "my other family" ought to be rectified. I naturally assume that this refers to your extended family, parents, siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins, nieces, nephews and so on. There was however the thought at the back of mind which kept on insisting "Could she be talking about bigamy. No ! Really ?"

Three of her best life-skills are:
  • Being a good friend and companion
  • Finding creative solutions to everyday problems
  • Using humor to make friends laugh

No need for comment here

The one thing she wishes MORE people would notice about her is:

I really don't know. Maybe that I am Canadian. Yep I AM that nice, eh.

This seems like a non-sequitor.

The things she can't live without are:
  • My 3 children
  • Music - eclectic tastes depending on my mood
  • Books- I read every day.
  • Great Coffee (see 1 above)
  • Exploration - new places, people, ideas

I concur with another poster on the fourth point. My reading is that the first point (Your three children), necessitate the fourth (Great coffee). It couldn't possibly refer to the "Passions" question (Question 1), but that is where I looked for clarification first. The intention is humorous, therefore. This will come off in the manner intended, after clarification, I think.

The first thing people notice about her is:

I am easy to talk to - I am really interested in other people and their stories and it shows.

Okay, as with "Most Influential Person" this a place which could be used to make your profile stand out a little more. Would you consider removing "....and it shows." at the end ?

Some additional information she wanted you to know is:

My life is busy but not too busy for a great relationship. I am an open person who shares freely. And I love to laugh. Can you make me laugh?

Okay. I rather like the challenge at the end. Tick

My interests

She typically spends her leisure time:

Anything outdoors - especially if it is near the water. A beach day is a good day. Going to the theatre, cooking and entertaining. Reading. I love to travel - everything from camping to 5 star hotels. I love art and museums and am a very amateur but enthusiastic photographer. Antiquing, refinishing furniture and quilting. I exercise because it is good for me but I would rather ride a bike or do something else active.

Good.

The last book she read and enjoyed:

The Kite Runner. Fascinating description of a very interesting culture I didn't know enough about. I confess to relaxing with chicklit too.

Timely. I have been seeing a television miniseries of the adaptation advertised. Tick

According to my friends:

Her friends describe her as:
  • Affectionate
  • Happy
  • Optimistic
  • Intelligent

Good. I would normally write "no need for comment here". The combination of affectionate, happy and optimistic appeals, however.

One thing that only her best friends know is:

I have lived in three countries and loved each one.

Awful question. Deletion is apparently underway. It serves as the feeder line for the same punchline ("Now that would be telling" or "You'd have to be my best friend to find out" a smilie or lol is often added), induces a resistive response, or is deflected with a non-sequitor in almost every profile I have seen. You have gone with the non-sequitor approach. The best responses I have seen are humorous non-sequitors.
The absolute best was "that I really do like spinach and brussels sprouts".


Might this be an approach you would be willing to take ?

One thing I struggle with is that my kids are younger than most women my age have - I can't seem to work that in without it seeming too off putting - ideas? Any feedback will be greatly appreciated!
Is there anything remarkably unusual about the age of your children ? Referring back to your age, I suppose that some might assume that they are grown and independent, but I think women bearing their children from their mid 30's onwards is not now an uncommon thing.
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angloaustralian - thanks. that was very helpful advice. And thanks for the positive feedback too. I will definitely revise to reflect most if not all those points. Maybe all those "other" closes were running from my bigamist self LOL! Good catch!
 
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Sassafras - thanks so much. I edited to add the first two sections - didn't realize they hadn't pasted. I don't think they fix your point about generic though. I am going to think some more about how to portray me better. I appreciate the other fixes too - good points

Anyone else?
Me again. It's funny I get the sense you're not a generic person but for some reason your profile is. Even though it has a lot of info in it.

One reason could be: you list a lot of things without getting specific about them, so there's no "pop" -- it doesn't stick in the reader's mind. The exception is "What book have you read", where you name a specific book, because that's what the question asks for.

So maybe try getting specific. For example:

Interests Unedited:
Anything outdoors - especially if it is near the water. A beach day is a good day. Going to the theatre, cooking and entertaining. Reading. I love to travel - everything from camping to 5 star hotels. I love art and museums and am a very amateur but enthusiastic photographer. Antiquing, refinishing furniture and quilting. I exercise because it is good for me but I would rather ride a bike or do something else active.

Interests Edited:
Anything outdoors - especially if it is near the water. Was thrilled to watch porpoises play at Pismo Beach last summer. Going to the theatre (Lion King -- changed my life), elaborate gourmet cooking and entertaining. Reading novels, newspapers, scientific journals -- you name it, if it's in print I'll read it. I love to travel - everything from camping to 5 star hotels [that's a good line, leave it as is]. I love the art of Andy Warhol but not Picasso and history museums and am a very amateur but enthusiastic photographer. Antiquing, refinishing furniture and quilting. I exercise because it is good for me but I would rather ride a bike or do something else active.

Getting more specific will make your profile longer, so you may need to delete less important things. I think it's better to have a shorter, more memorable list than a longer laundry list of non specifics.

Hope this helps!
 
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Thanks - I really like that idea and will incorporate it. I do think it will help a lot.
 
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The one thing Cynthia is most passionate about:
My family. I love travel, movies, reading, cooking, entertaining and the outdoors. Discussing just about any topic with friends. Learning something new.
This question is all-important because it should motivate the reader to really want to get to know more about you. Your answer should be the same answer that your best friend should give me, if she was trying to get me interested in asking you out. It should focus on what motivates you to get up in the morning. A hobby, your job, whatever that is. And last but not least, it should answer the question and talk about ONE THING only. (Two at most.)

This answer just doesn't do any of those things. These look like things (way more than one, btw) that belong in the "leisure time" answer. Not as your "passion".

This is not the place to give a laundry list of interests (family, travel, movies, etc.) that everyone has. What makes you unique? Think about it.

The rest of the profile is fine. But I read it with little interest since your question #1 didn't really "hook" me.
 
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Melman - thanks for that insightful feedback. I like the best friend way of looking at it. Not sure how I am going to change it yet - but I will. Appreciate the help
 
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I edited my original post to include some revisions I have made. Still noodling on how to include the kid info..

So any additional suggestions would be very appreciated - is it still too generic?

And Melman - I really am not a woman with a singular passion - I do believe that my friends would say something like I have written. But if I need to put more thought into it I will...

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