Chemistry versus Eharmony — encouraging two different types of strategies.


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nightling is offline nightling Post #1  March 28,2010, 1:14pm
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All right at the request of Buck, I am starting this thread to discuss what happened when I tried out Chemistry.com for a free communication weekend.

Their set up has a big difference from Eharmony. There's a penalty for not sorting matches into the definitely or not really pile. So I am there for an FCW so decided to give their way a try their way and just put all the ones I have the slightest interested in into the yes pile. The rest went to not really. I have 2 in undecided.

This would be unusual behavior for me at eHarmony. Here I tend to wait for others to initiate and only initiate myself with one or two of the matches I'm particularly interested in. The rest I leave in maybe land. If I run out of other matches to talk to, I would pick one or two from the maybe pile and move them to communicating.

But at chemistry, being there for an FCW, I just went ahead and made that decision immediately and ended up sending first steps to 16 matches, 8 of whom I made it through all the steps with to open communication. The rest I just left hanging. I doubt we get to open communication in time.

One of the interesting things I noticed going through things that way is the ones I had at first been the most interested in based on their profiles didn't always stay at the top of my list. Some of the ones who I was initially very iffy on in my interest floated to the top based on their emails and what they told me about their life and history.

Of course, I am kind of basing this on them being truthful in their responses and telling me things straight, and that they are only polishing things up a bit not outright lying. Might not be the case. MIght not even look like their photos. Don't know till we meet. So unlike some, no I don't view this stage as overly "meaningful" communication and I'd be uncomfortable if they showed signs they think I am "The One."

Anyway, it was a very instructive weekend. I think I will now approach things at eHarmony much more like Roxy has suggested in the past and just communicate with everyone who doesn't say something completely inappropriate in the profile, such as list sex as their top thing they can't live without.

At eHarmony, I have 10 matches open, but only 3 are actively communicating. The rest appear to be poofing. I initiated two of those 10 open.

It seems to me no one at EHarmoy wants to initiate bc there is no penalty for not opening/closing a match and moving on with things. You can let 1000000000 matches hang in the air indefinitely — and it appears to me that is what most people do. I am guilty of it too so I am not judging, there's no penalty to letting the maybes hang on and I just felt more comfortable only initiating with a few at a time.

Feel free to discuss, but please don't turn this into some sort of personal attack on me bc I was willing to share my experience. I am new to online dating, and I like many others here am just trying to figure out how best to go about it. I do want to be kind and courteous as possible as I go about this.
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I read all of the above, and my reply is: Man, I think I will just avoid Chemistry.com which I have never visited before. And not due to anything about Chemistry nor anything about eHarmony. But rather, why would I go to all of the trouble of being on two sites?
 
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nightling wrote :
It seems to me no one at EHarmoy wants to initiate bc there is no penalty for not opening/closing a match and moving on with things. You can let 1000000000 matches hang in the air indefinitely
Actually there just might be a certain number if reached eH will stop sending you any new matches. I recall a poster complaining about this a few months back.

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NEVER!!

Just don't start a thread telling us that you're leaving for chemistry's new advice board and we're a bunch of pitas' over here!
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Actually there just might be a certain number if reached eH will stop sending you any new matches. I recall a poster complaining about this a few months back.

NEVER!!

Just don't start a thread telling us that you're leaving for chemistry's new advice board and we're a bunch of pitas' over here!
lol they don't have a message board Trek. You can't get rid of me so easily anyway.
 
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Tom_2010 wrote :
I read all of the above, and my reply is: Man, I think I will just avoid Chemistry.com which I have never visited before. And not due to anything about Chemistry nor anything about eHarmony. But rather, why would I go to all of the trouble of being on two sites?
lol it was an extremely long post. I am sorry for that.

Well it's not actually any more trouble belonging to the two sites. A bit of spam in the inbox is all. After the FCW I will close out the matching so I'm not hanging around unable to communicate w new matches (and likely making people want to post angry missives about non responders and poofers.) lol

I guess to summarize, my point is, I've come around to Roxy's way of thinking. Correspond with all the matches, bc the ones you liked best just from the profile can change based on subsequent interaction and new information.

And don't be too quick to hit close. Nothing is harmed by leaving the options open and getting more information. It's not like that's a commitment just bc you are communicating.

That is by the way how eHarmony suggests to do it. It's just that the create no penalty for not doing so. /shrug

And I imagine if they tried to switch to that, a great many people would not like it, but it might be better long-term. People could finally feel they are getting somewhere instead of dealing with 1 or 2 matches at a time who both poof.
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From my experience the best dating sites are usually the ones that are the most advertised and popular. So I think at this point eharmony is a much better deal then chemistry would be (I am not sure I have ever seen one commercial about chemistry.com where as you see advertisements about eharmony everywhere).

Match and eharmony I think are the best two and I don't like match.com's site structure.
 
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I've come to the same conclusion. It is a waste of money invested to not send first questions to people of interest, imo. Given that there is such a high % of unpaid members leaving them in your inbox is just clutter. Might as well send the messages. I used to shy away from sending the messages thinking they signalled "I'm into you." Now I see them more as "Wanna chat?"

The only reason I would change this strategy is if people actually started responding back to my questions. And I was in the position of talking to a bunch of people at once.
 
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Hey nightling ... Thanks for taking time.

When I asked for this I was not aware that you'd be describing your experience on another site. No matter though. We can go with that.

A bold move indeed to hit the send button 16 times. And a decent response rate too boot. I'm happy for you that you got 8 men to consider in coming weeks, and it does allow discussion on a few topics that interest me.

For starters (and I'm only going to do one tonight), how do you - or anyone for that matter - keep track of what that many matches have to say and what you say to them. Or, maybe a better question - how do you keep track of what you think or how you feel about what 8 men have to say?

By personal choice (right, wrong or whatever) and for some background, I'll offer that I initiate communication with perhaps one or two matches at a time while also responding to one or two that write to me first. Even four is enough to keep my head spinning. I'm much happier communicating with only one woman, and simply doing other things while she lives her life. Obviously slow going compared to your approach, which is why I asked you in another post to start this.
 
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nightling wrote :
All right at the request of Buck, I am starting this thread to discuss what happened when I tried out Chemistry.com for a free communication weekend.

Their set up has a big difference from Eharmony. There's a penalty for not sorting matches into the definitely or not really pile. So I am there for an FCW so decided to give their way a try their way and just put all the ones I have the slightest interested in into the yes pile. The rest went to not really. I have 2 in undecided.

This would be unusual behavior for me at eHarmony. Here I tend to wait for others to initiate and only initiate myself with one or two of the matches I'm particularly interested in. The rest I leave in maybe land. If I run out of other matches to talk to, I would pick one or two from the maybe pile and move them to communicating.

But at chemistry, being there for an FCW, I just went ahead and made that decision immediately and ended up sending first steps to 16 matches, 8 of whom I made it through all the steps with to open communication. The rest I just left hanging. I doubt we get to open communication in time.

One of the interesting things I noticed going through things that way is the ones I had at first been the most interested in based on their profiles didn't always stay at the top of my list. Some of the ones who I was initially very iffy on in my interest floated to the top based on their emails and what they told me about their life and history.

Of course, I am kind of basing this on them being truthful in their responses and telling me things straight, and that they are only polishing things up a bit not outright lying. Might not be the case. MIght not even look like their photos. Don't know till we meet. So unlike some, no I don't view this stage as overly "meaningful" communication and I'd be uncomfortable if they showed signs they think I am "The One."

Anyway, it was a very instructive weekend. I think I will now approach things at eHarmony much more like Roxy has suggested in the past and just communicate with everyone who doesn't say something completely inappropriate in the profile, such as list sex as their top thing they can't live without.

At eHarmony, I have 10 matches open, but only 3 are actively communicating. The rest appear to be poofing. I initiated two of those 10 open.

It seems to me no one at EHarmoy wants to initiate bc there is no penalty for not opening/closing a match and moving on with things. You can let 1000000000 matches hang in the air indefinitely — and it appears to me that is what most people do. I am guilty of it too so I am not judging, there's no penalty to letting the maybes hang on and I just felt more comfortable only initiating with a few at a time.

Feel free to discuss, but please don't turn this into some sort of personal attack on me bc I was willing to share my experience. I am new to online dating, and I like many others here am just trying to figure out how best to go about it. I do want to be kind and courteous as possible as I go about this.
Wow, your experience with Chemistry is vastly different than mine. I have had a non-paying account there since they first started. I have participated in many FCW on Chemistry and have never had an match respond.
 
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2clueless wrote :
I've come to the same conclusion. It is a waste of money invested to not send first questions to people of interest, imo. Given that there is such a high % of unpaid members leaving them in your inbox is just clutter. Might as well send the messages. I used to shy away from sending the messages thinking they signaled "I'm into you." Now I see them more as "Wanna chat?"

The only reason I would change this strategy is if people actually started responding back to my questions. And I was in the position of talking to a bunch of people at once.
I wish more women would take your approach and initiate if they are interested. Even though I have initiated communication with several matches and may be in some step in the process when a girl initiates communication she is going to go to the front of the line ahead of all those that are dragging their feet in responding.
 
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