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Larch is offline Larch Post #1  March 8,2010, 3:19pm
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I've been lurking on these forums for a long time, and I've really enjoyed reading everyone's posts.

I'm now past the five month mark, and I'm not having the success I was hoping for. Hardly anyone communicates with me, and I've only met one person. I kept detailed statistics for a recent (typical) week, and here were the results:

  • 49 matches delivered, I contacted all of them.
  • 33% closed me (mostly stating "Other" or "Pursuing another relationship")
  • 4% responded to my first questions
  • 18% looked at my profile, but did not respond (mostly non-payers, I'm guessing)
  • 45% took no action (non-payers)

Of the two people that did respond to my questions, both got stuck, and I'm still waiting on their responses (it's been about a week since last communication with them, I'm not holding out much hope).

At this point I've burned through over 800 matches, and I'm worried that I'm doing something wrong. I'm posting my profile and photos here in hopes that I could get some advice from the kind folks here. In return, I'll take your advice, make changes, and post back with statistics from a future week.

I've read all of the profile workshop threads and found them very helpful. I've tried to make my profile show my personality, uniqueness, and a bit of humor. I'm worried that the answer to the first question (the "passion" one) will mark me as an uber-nerd to my matches. I admit that may be slightly true, but I promise I bathe monthly, and my mom's basement is plenty big enough for two people. I'm also worried that I may have gone overboard with the cheesy jokes.

So what's the verdict folks? Am I scaring away my matches with something in my profile? Should I get better pictures? Or maybe a paper bag would be a big improvement?

Thank you all, and I eagerly await your advice!

Basic Information:
Occupation: Engineer
Age: 34
Height: 5'8"
Wants Kids: Yes
Ethnicity: White, non-Hispanic
Religion: Christian
Drinks: A few times a year
Smokes: Never

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Img1: On Vacation (Feb. 2010)
Img2: My humble abode.
Img3: My sweet ride.
Img4: On Vacation (Feb. 2010)
Img5: (no caption)


1. What are you most passionate about?
I'm passionate about my occupation. Back in Miss Greenfield's third grade class, our school got its first computer. I was hooked from the start! I saved my allowance for months, and with some help from my parents, I purchased a tiny computer of my own. It hooked up to the television, and it was very primitive. I loved it! What was a hobby for many years eventually turned into serious study at college, and now I have an awesome job that I really enjoy. I find it so satisfying and fulfilling to fix something that isn't working right, or to make something that's useful for other people.

2. What are the THREE things for which you are MOST thankful?
  • You know those mornings when you wake up and feel awesome all day for no good reason? Those days!
  • Spiral notebook and mechanical pencil - I take lots of notes!
  • Indoor plumbing - Without a doubt the most important invention ever!

3. Other than your parents, who has been the most influential person in your life and why?
Family, friends, and teachers are at the top of most people's list, but let me dig deeper. When I was in elementary and junior high school, I was in this club for boys where we'd meet weekly to play games and go camping and hiking during the summer (kind of like Boy Scouts). One of the adults who supervised us was named Dave. He grew into a "big brother" type figure for me, and I was always happy to see him. He encouraged me to pursue my interests, gave me good advice, and made me feel important and valuable. Dave was an all-around fantastic person, and he stands out as a major role model for me.

4. The four things your friends say about you are:
  • Articulate
  • Intelligent
  • Easy-Going
  • Dependable

5. What are three of your BEST life-skills?
  • Finding and taking on challenging activities.
  • Finding creative solutions to everyday problems.
  • Achieving personal goals.

6. What is the most important quality that you are looking for in another person?
Gee, only one quality? Well if that's the case, then obviously I want someone I can fall madly, deeply in love with (and her with me) because we are just so perfect for each other, and we can live a happy, blissful life together! Should be easy, right?! I'm sure you'll agree that it can be hard to find someone you have that awesome connection with, but I'm always hopeful and optimistic that she's around the next corner, and I just have to keep looking.

7. Other than your appearance, what is the first thing that people notice about you?
I don't really know what people first notice about me, since I don't ask them (what an odd question to ask someone you just met!) When I meet someone, I try to give a nice smile, warm greeting, and ask for their name if they didn't offer it (and I work really hard to remember it). Hopefully they notice these things. Then again, maybe they notice that piece of broccoli stuck in my teeth or my third eye. Who knows?

8. What is the ONE thing that people DON'T notice about you right away that you WISH they WOULD?
Umm... my minty fresh breath? This is a nearly impossible question to answer, since it requires the ability to read minds or something! So let me just tell you a bit more about me. I'm a very verbal person, and I mostly experience the world through words. I love to talk to people. I love to read. I've tried writing, and had some skill with it, but I've fallen out of practice.

9. How do you typically spend your leisure time?
I love reading, watching movies, tinkering with my computer, walking in the park, the occasional video game, and just spending quality time with family and friends.

10. What are five things that you "can't live without?"
  • Hugs
  • The snooze button - Just 9 more minutes!
  • Those little clementine oranges
  • Purpose
  • Pixar movies

11. Describe the last book that you read and enjoyed. What was it about? What did you like most about it?
I recently read and enjoyed the book "Stardust" by Neil Gaiman. This book is usually described as a modern fairy tale, and I think that fits it perfectly. The book is about a young man who vows to retrieve a fallen star for his sweetheart, but the journey ends up being more perilous and amazing than he could have imagined. It's a totally fanciful book that really gets your imagination going.

12. Is there any additional information you would like your matches to know about you?
It's really hard to sum up your personality and character in just a few paragraphs. I have nothing witty or profound to add here, other than to tell you that I'm looking forward to getting to know you better. If you know it's not going to work, save us both some time and click "close". I won't be offended, I promise (my buddies Ben and Jerry will comfort me). But if you don't mind flirting with a stranger on the internet, then go ahead and answer my questions (or send me yours)! We're all here to find someone who's great for us, so let's communicate to see if we're great for each other!

What's something about you that only your best friends know?
Well, only my friends know about the time in high school when I was sent an invitation to participate in a beauty pageant. I suppose with a name like MYNAME, they just assumed I'd be interested. (And if you're curious, I was second runner-up. It was an honor just to compete! I'm not still bitter about losing. Nope.) (NOTE To Advice Forum Users: MYNAME is much more common among women than men, hence the joke. I prefer to keep it private though, so not posting it here.)
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1. It's way too wordy and takes an individual quite a task to read it all. Be succinct but witty. They also have 800 matches, and no one has time to read all of them. Even though it is clearly a personality trait of yours to be exhaustively detailed (and I am not knocking that) - don't do so here, in a profile on eHarmony. Detail out, feelings in. We don't need to know that your alarm clock gives you 9, and not 10, extra minutes.

2. You are most passionate about an inanimate object. About 95% of women will not connect with that. Women connect with emotion, hopefulness, and PEOPLE.

3. You're betraying far too much of the nerd side. I don't mind that in you -- God love you for it, we've been able to advance as a society thanks to you all. However, a woman wants to feel that she has encountered a guy who will make her feel special, and not be enamored with his spiral notebooks and mechanical pencils.

4. Don't invite people to close you out as a match. Whether most women will own up to it or not, the most attractive quality women are looking for is a sense of confidence. It's a projection, and not a stance.
 
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If I were in your age group, I would have initiated with you.

Guess that's not much help, but wanted to tell you I like your sense of humor, your pics and the fact your true personality shines through.

If anything, I would try to be more succinct, but not to the point of losing your voice.

Good luck!
 
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I really like your profile. It is wordy though (and this is coming from someone wordy).

I like your most passionate about story and how it links into your career (I remember my first computer when I was young too)

I don't like how you have indoor plumbing listed in your profile. I don't want to think of you and the bathroom together.

I loved your snooze button answer.

And yes, although we ALL want to write something about just closing us out if there's no interest...don't. (or at least I yell "just close me" at the computer monitor weekly as I stare at the huge pile of matches doing nothing)

Just my thoughts. Good luck!
 
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Since I'm a dude I am not really your target audience but the phrase 'brevity is the soul of wit' comes to mind. You have some good stuff in there but it gets lost because the answers are so wordy. For example, #8? Leave it at the first sentence. The whole thing comes across as the comic that tells a joke and then spends 10 mins explaining it to me to the point where I forget the point of the joke.

You're an engineer, so, here's a proposed problem: Answer every Eharmony question in no more than 2 sentences composed of no more than 30 words.
 
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slaw wrote :
You're an engineer, so, here's a proposed problem: Answer every Eharmony question in no more than 2 sentences composed of no more than 30 words.
Catchy. And I like it.
 
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Hi there,
If you were matched with me I would communicate with you. I agree with the others that at certain points your profile is a bit wordy.

1. What are you most passionate about?
I'm passionate about my occupation. Back in Miss Greenfield's third grade class, our school got its first computer. I was hooked from the start! I saved my allowance for months, and with some help from my parents, I purchased a tiny computer of my own. It hooked up to the television, and it was very primitive. I loved it! What was a hobby for many years eventually turned into serious study at college, and now I have an awesome job that I really enjoy. I find it so satisfying and fulfilling to fix something that isn't working right, or to make something that's useful for other people.
It is great that you love your job but it makes me wonder from the start if this is all you do. Maybe trim down this paragraph a bit and add a second passion. A hobby or something that you do for fun.



2. What are the THREE things for which you are MOST thankful?
  • You know those mornings when you wake up and feel awesome all day for no good reason? Those days!
  • Spiral notebook and mechanical pencil - I take lots of notes!
  • Indoor plumbing - Without a doubt the most important invention ever!
    I pictured you walking around with a notebook and pencil when I read this. Is this what you intended?
3. Other than your parents, who has been the most influential person in your life and why?
Family, friends, and teachers are at the top of most people's list, but let me dig deeper. - (maybe take this line out. Many people would say the same. Not necessary to state it. )When I was in elementary and junior high school, I was in this club for boys where we'd meet weekly to play games and go camping and hiking during the summer (kind of like Boy Scouts). One of the adults who supervised us was named Dave. He grew into a "big brother" type figure for me, and I was always happy to see him. He encouraged me to pursue my interests, gave me good advice, and made me feel important and valuable. Dave was an all-around fantastic person, and he stands out as a major role model for me. --this is the part I was looking for. Keep this and maybe briefly introduce Dave.

4. The four things your friends say about you are:
  • Articulate
  • Intelligent
  • Easy-Going
  • Dependable
These are good but your profile doesn't make you sound easy going. Especially the passionate section at the top. Edit the top part so this fits.





5. What are three of your BEST life-skills?
  • Finding and taking on challenging activities.
  • Finding creative solutions to everyday problems.
  • Achieving personal goals.
6. What is the most important quality that you are looking for in another person?
Gee, only one quality? Well if that's the case, then obviously I want someone I can fall madly, deeply in love with (and her with me) because we are just so perfect for each other, and we can live a happy, blissful life together! Should be easy, right?! I'm sure you'll agree that it can be hard to find someone you have that awesome connection with, but I'm always hopeful and optimistic that she's around the next corner, and I just have to keep looking.
This sounds nice but you didn't mention a quality. Be specific here. It lets women know what is really important to you.

7. Other than your appearance, what is the first thing that people notice about you?
I don't really know what people first notice about me, since I don't ask them (what an odd question to ask someone you just met!) When I meet someone, I try to give a nice smile, warm greeting, and ask for their name if they didn't offer it (and I work really hard to remember it). Hopefully they notice these things. Then again, maybe they notice that piece of broccoli stuck in my teeth or my third eye. Who knows?
so, you're friendly or welcoming? You could cut this one down to a line or two.

8. What is the ONE thing that people DON'T notice about you right away that you WISH they WOULD?
Umm... my minty fresh breath? This is a nearly impossible question to answer, since it requires the ability to read minds or something! So let me just tell you a bit more about me. I'm a very verbal person, and I mostly experience the world through words. I love to talk to people. I love to read. I've tried writing, and had some skill with it, but I've fallen out of practice.
Save this for the other info or leisure sections if you would like to include it. I agree this is a diffiult question to answer but you could trim it down to a line or two if you think of something.

9. How do you typically spend your leisure time?
I love reading, watching movies, tinkering with my computer, walking in the park, the occasional video game, and just spending quality time with family and friends.
Expand on this section. Let women know that you are a fun guy! What do you like to read? What type of movies to you like? What do you typically do with your friends? (backyard BBQ; bars; out for dinner?) I have read over 1000 profiles and almost everyone says "spending time with family and friends". Expand on this section just a bit.


10. What are five things that you "can't live without?"
  • Hugs
  • The snooze button - Just 9 more minutes! - I agree. don't need this.
  • Those little clementine oranges
  • Purpose
  • Pixar movies
11. Describe the last book that you read and enjoyed. What was it about? What did you like most about it?
I recently read and enjoyed the book "Stardust" by Neil Gaiman. This book is usually described as a modern fairy tale, and I think that fits it perfectly. The book is about a young man who vows to retrieve a fallen star for his sweetheart, but the journey ends up being more perilous and amazing than he could have imagined. It's a totally fanciful book that really gets your imagination going.
Good.

12. Is there any additional information you would like your matches to know about you?
It's really hard to sum up your personality and character in just a few paragraphs. --i read this often in other profiles. May not be necessary to say it. I have nothing witty or profound to add here, other than to tell you that I'm looking forward to getting to know you better. If you know it's not going to work, save us both some time and click "close". I won't be offended, I promise (my buddies Ben and Jerry will comfort me). --makes you sound insecure. But if you don't mind flirting with a stranger on the internet, then go ahead and answer my questions (or send me yours)! --could be interpreted as creepy. We're all here to find someone who's great for us, so communicate to see if we're great for each other!



What's something about you that only your best friends know?
Well, only my friends know about the time in high school when I was sent an invitation to participate in a beauty pageant. I suppose with a name like MYNAME, they just assumed I'd be interested. (And if you're curious, I was second runner-up. It was an honor just to compete! I'm not still bitter about losing. Nope.) (NOTE To Advice Forum Users: MYNAME is much more common among women than men, hence the joke. I prefer to keep it private though, so not posting it here.)[/quote]
I had a hard time answering this one too. I think women would like you to reveal something more about your personality here. We know you are cute. We can see your pictures.

I hope that helps you.
 
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One more thing, change #12. You are attempting to engage with her, so, don't suggest she should close you out. Imagine walking up to a woman at a bar and telling her she should tell you right now if she isn't interested so you don't waste your time trying to seduce her.

I don't think too many guys are using that approach successfully....
 
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Larch wrote :
I've been lurking on these forums for a long time, and I've really enjoyed reading everyone's posts.
Welcome to the forums.

Image Captions:
Img1: On Vacation (Feb. 2010)
Img2: My humble abode.
Img3: My sweet ride.
Img4: On Vacation (Feb. 2010)
Img5: (no caption)

Actually the pictures seem pretty good to me.

1. What are you most passionate about?
I'm passionate about my occupation. Back in Miss Greenfield's third grade class, our school got its first computer. I was hooked from the start! I saved my allowance for months, and with some help from my parents, I purchased a tiny computer of my own. It hooked up to the television, and it was very primitive. I loved it! What was a hobby for many years eventually turned into serious study at college, and now I have an awesome job that I really enjoy. I find it so satisfying and fulfilling to fix something that isn't working right, or to make something that's useful for other people.

Parts of this are very engaging. I would shorten it up a bit, making it a bit more conversational perhaps. You've got kind of a stilted style to these entries which makes you seem like you're not being spontaneous at all but carefully presenting me with an idealized version of you. So the antidote I think is to just cut some words. I'm going to give you an example here to show you what I mean ... you don't need to use my words, use yer own please, but it's just to help you see what I'm talking about


When I was a kid I got a tiny computer of my own. It was pretty primitive ,but it hooked up to the television. Wow what a hobby that turned out to be! I am still very passionate about computers and in fact it turned into my career. I really enjoy fixing something that isn't working right or making something useful to others.


I hope you can see what I'm talking about here, the kinds of things that make it seem like you're over-thinking the presentation of yerself.


2. What are the THREE things for which you are MOST thankful?
  • You know those mornings when you wake up and feel awesome all day for no good reason? Those days!
  • Spiral notebook and mechanical pencil - I take lots of notes!
  • Indoor plumbing - Without a doubt the most important invention ever!
This was cute and I liked the sense of humor.
3. Other than your parents, who has been the most influential person in your life and why?
Family, friends, and teachers are at the top of most people's list, but let me dig deeper. When I was in elementary and junior high school, I was in this club for boys where we'd meet weekly to play games and go camping and hiking during the summer (kind of like Boy Scouts). One of the adults who supervised us was named Dave. He grew into a "big brother" type figure for me, and I was always happy to see him. He encouraged me to pursue my interests, gave me good advice, and made me feel important and valuable. Dave was an all-around fantastic person, and he stands out as a major role model for me.
Leave off the first sentence. Of course everyone knows their family comes first. blah blah. It's a waste of words. Otherwise it's not bad, but I would still cut as many words as possible. You don't really need the part where you were always happy to see him for example.


4. The four things your friends say about you are:
  • Articulate
  • Intelligent
  • Easy-Going
  • Dependable

fine fine
5. What are three of your BEST life-skills?
  • Finding and taking on challenging activities.
  • Finding creative solutions to everyday problems.
  • Achieving personal goals.
ok ok


6. What is the most important quality that you are looking for in another person?
Gee, only one quality? Well if that's the case, then obviously I want someone I can fall madly, deeply in love with (and her with me) because we are just so perfect for each other, and we can live a happy, blissful life together! Should be easy, right?! I'm sure you'll agree that it can be hard to find someone you have that awesome connection with, but I'm always hopeful and optimistic that she's around the next corner, and I just have to keep looking.
I didn't care for this section at all. No one is perfect for each other, first of all, so it seems very unrealistic. I get yer being facetious here, but well it's facetious in every sense of that word. As in the wrong place for this humor at this time. I know I can't possibly be perfect, so give me some real characteristic that you seek in a mate so I'd know if I have a snowballs' chance in hell of meeting it.


7. Other than your appearance, what is the first thing that people notice about you?
I don't really know what people first notice about me, since I don't ask them (what an odd question to ask someone you just met!) When I meet someone, I try to give a nice smile, warm greeting, and ask for their name if they didn't offer it (and I work really hard to remember it). Hopefully they notice these things. Then again, maybe they notice that piece of broccoli stuck in my teeth or my third eye. Who knows?
Nobody likes the question ... that said ... just don't bring up what an odd question it is. Tell me something distinctive about you that would make me want to meet you. The broccoli thing ... not really doing it for me. Yuck. lol


8. What is the ONE thing that people DON'T notice about you right away that you WISH they WOULD?
Umm... my minty fresh breath? This is a nearly impossible question to answer, since it requires the ability to read minds or something! So let me just tell you a bit more about me. I'm a very verbal person, and I mostly experience the world through words. I love to talk to people. I love to read. I've tried writing, and had some skill with it, but I've fallen out of practice.
Same thing here. Don't argue about the questions. We all had to answer them. Make them work for you. Tell me another thing about you that would make me want to meet you.


9. How do you typically spend your leisure time?
I love reading, watching movies, tinkering with my computer, walking in the park, the occasional video game, and just spending quality time with family and friends.
This seems fine to me.


10. What are five things that you "can't live without?"
  • Hugs
  • The snooze button - Just 9 more minutes!
  • Those little clementine oranges
  • Purpose
  • Pixar movies
love those clementine oranges myself. This list is fine.


11. Describe the last book that you read and enjoyed. What was it about? What did you like most about it?
I recently read and enjoyed the book "Stardust" by Neil Gaiman. This book is usually described as a modern fairy tale, and I think that fits it perfectly. The book is about a young man who vows to retrieve a fallen star for his sweetheart, but the journey ends up being more perilous and amazing than he could have imagined. It's a totally fanciful book that really gets your imagination going.
I dunno maybe it is just me and I'm a little bit jaded here ... but I got the sense that you picked this book so you could spin me a romantic story. It seems well playerish to me. Did you really like this book?

12. Is there any additional information you would like your matches to know about you?
It's really hard to sum up your personality and character in just a few paragraphs. I have nothing witty or profound to add here, other than to tell you that I'm looking forward to getting to know you better. If you know it's not going to work, save us both some time and click "close". I won't be offended, I promise (my buddies Ben and Jerry will comfort me). But if you don't mind flirting with a stranger on the internet, then go ahead and answer my questions (or send me yours)! We're all here to find someone who's great for us, so let's communicate to see if we're great for each other!
This is your dealbreaker right here. This just screams attitude. If I saw this, I would likely hit close bc it says to me that yer not easygoing, that relationships just don't seem to ever work out for you and you don't know why. And why would you bring up flirting with a stranger on the Internet? The ladies are already a little uncomfortable with the whole yikes random strangers from the Internet thing ... no no no this section absolutely must go. You need to build the comfort level of the woman reading the profile, not destroy it lol. Tell me one last great thing about you that will make me want to click open, not this bs about if I'm comfortable flirting with a stranger on the Internet blah blah. That just makes it sound like you would wanta move way too fast for me!


What's something about you that only your best friends know?
Well, only my friends know about the time in high school when I was sent an invitation to participate in a beauty pageant. I suppose with a name like MYNAME, they just assumed I'd be interested. (And if you're curious, I was second runner-up. It was an honor just to compete! I'm not still bitter about losing. Nope.) (NOTE To Advice Forum Users: MYNAME is much more common among women than men, hence the joke. I prefer to keep it private though, so not posting it here.)
Lose the still in that sentence. It's not needed. I dunno this anecdote is cute but it doesn't exactly make me wanta communicate either. I'd rethink it maybe, put something else here.[/QUOTE]

OK good luck with this.
 
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That was nice of you, nightling, to provide such thoughtful and extensive feedback.

Hmmm, makes me think I should post my resume to the scrutiny of such helpful eyes.
 
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