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Why not put a simple indicator or flag on the non-payers that can be removed when the empty their wallets and get serious.

This would not have to be anything like a huge waving red flag, just a small symbol or something that will indicate they have not payed yet.

- November 20th, 2009, 01:06 pm
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Simply because they won't do it. They probably figure if we had those number they would start to loose business. And their probably right. If the numbers show that paying members are like in the minority people would likely stop renewing.

Don't get me wrong here I too am kinda frustrated not knowing who is a paying member and who isn't. But I can see the reasons behind why they are the way they are.
- November 20th, 2009, 02:05 pm
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Why not put a simple indicator or flag on the non-payers that can be removed when the empty their wallets and get serious.
Don't get mad at me with this question: You've been here in EHA since August and have made 580 posts and you still don't know the answer to this question??

Non-subscribers who see only 2 out of 10 have flags won't become subscribers, and subscribers who see only 2 out of 10 have flags will riot. Are you sure you want this?
- November 20th, 2009, 02:12 pm
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Coca-Cola wrote :
Don't get mad at me with this question: You've been here in EHA since August and have made 580 posts and you still don't know the answer to this question??

Non-subscribers who see only 2 out of 10 have flags won't become subscribers, and subscribers who see only 2 out of 10 have flags will riot. Are you sure you want this?
It would be nice, but Coca-Cola hit the nail on the head as to why it won't happen.
- November 20th, 2009, 06:10 pm
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Thanks - this answered my question that I put as a thread!!
- November 21st, 2009, 05:57 pm
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Gtaylor72 wrote :
Simply because they won't do it. They probably figure if we had those number they would start to loose business. And their probably right. If the numbers show that paying members are like in the minority people would likely stop renewing.

Don't get me wrong here I too am kinda frustrated not knowing who is a paying member and who isn't. But I can see the reasons behind why they are the way they are.
Very intelligent response. I don't like wasting time with nonpaying members that are in & out like In & Out burgers.
- December 20th, 2009, 09:48 pm
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Paying members are the bait for the non paying.

This is why it's best to send First Questions to EVERY match, give it a week to 10 days, then close out the 80% who don't/can't answer so you get another crop.

It's frustrating, but thats how all the fairly good internet dating services work.

What *I* wish is that eH would, like Yahoo Personals, say how long its been since the person checked his Yahoo Personals account. That helps find active members..if someone is really looking for a date, they are online frequently.

But eH is very slow to change..look at how long the Put On Hold option to Close has been there, when we haven't been able to put someone on Hpld for years.
- December 21st, 2009, 01:24 am
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RoxyRedhead wrote :
This is why it's best to send First Questions to EVERY match, give it a week to 10 days, then close out the 80% who don't/can't answer so you get another crop.
Wait...what? There are no restrictions on the number of matches you can have open as a paying member before you can receive new matches.

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What *I* wish is that eH would, like Yahoo Personals, say how long its been since the person checked his Yahoo Personals account. That helps find active members..if someone is really looking for a date, they are online frequently.
I'd like this too, but my guess is they won't do it because it would skew the business model too much. Paying members aren't going to waste their time and initiate with a match that hasn't logged in for months. Since the philosophy is paying members will cajole non-paying members to subscribe by offering communication, they don't want to give paying customers too many reasons not to communicate.

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But eH is very slow to change..look at how long the Put On Hold option to Close has been there, when we haven't been able to put someone on Hpld for years.
Yes, this one still lingers and for whatever reason, cannot be replaced by something more useful like "because your profile was not complete."

A few months ago there was a thread about suggestions to change the close messages. As I recall, the intent was to send that along to the "Development Team." What ever happened to that idea?

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- December 21st, 2009, 06:55 am
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RoxyRedhead wrote :
What *I* wish is that eH would, like Yahoo Personals, say how long its been since the person checked his Yahoo Personals account. That helps find active members..if someone is really looking for a date, they are online frequently.
I'd like that too. I have some matches who haven't responded in months, and there's no way to tell if they are still members or just ignoring me.

I think the system should at least indicate to us if a match is no longer a member.
- December 21st, 2009, 08:29 pm
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I have wondered this myself - i.e. how many of my matches are non-paying or expired members. But I also agree with all of the comments out there as to why EH won't do something about it. It's always about the dollars - no matter what the ads say. What they could do if EH doesn't want to flag anyone as non-paying at the initial match stage is if you Open Communication with someone who isn't a paying member, then EH could indicate to you that while the person will know you are interested in talking - they won't be able to do so until they join. I think they owe that courtesy to their paying members.
- December 24th, 2009, 01:59 pm
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