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Sadly, I’ve come to the conclusion that eH should be lumped in the same category as those infomercials promising “rock hard abs” if you purchase their latest piece of junk or herbal supplement.fficeffice" />>>
Whilst eH cloaks itself in a veneer of respectability, it actually ticks all the boxes for a classic scam.>>
There’s the free “hook” to get you in, the “too good to be true” promises, the requirement to pay up front with massive discounts for longer subscriptions, and the so-called “success stories.” They’re all there.>>
I’m not suggesting that it was planned this way from the beginning, but it’s clear that eH is a multi-squillion dollar enterprise that cares about nothing but making a buck. It wouldn’t be so bad if they followed the “make a good product and people will pay for it” axiom, but clearly everything is designed for maximum manipulation and exploitation.>>
There’s a lot of talk in these forums about eH taking action in regard to inactive members. Yet (unlike MANY dating sites) they refuse to even flag users based on their last activity. Why? Because that would expose the con, that most of these “highly compatible matches” simply don’t exist in any real form. I’ve had over 230 of these, of which 200+ have never replied, viewed my profile, or shown any other indication that they are active.
- September 24th, 2009, 11:07 pm
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Dear Big_Bopper,

I regret to hear that you’re not having a positive eHarmony experience and that this has led you to believe eHarmony is only out to make money and that we manipulate members.

I’m also very sorry you feel that our Free Matching service is an attempt to “hook” people. One of the reasons we provide our matching service for free is so perspective members have the chance to evaluate our matching service before making the decision to purchase a subscription.

If, after reviewing your matches, you feel eHarmony may be a good option for you in your search for that special someone, we offer a variety of subscription plans. Yes, like many purchases the longer the term, the better the value, and, yes, we do encourage members to purchase longer subscriptions. We do this, not only because of the better value, but also because we know that, on average, successful members dedicated 3 to 6 months to their search before being successfully matched. And, truth be told, some successful members needed to dedicate even more time before finding The One. However, regardless of our encouragement, it is up to each member to determine what subscription is right for them.

Regarding our Success Stories page, I want to assure you that all those stories are from actual eHarmony members. We created this page so anyone can read the stories and view the videos submitted by many of our Successful Couples. However, if you read these stories, especially the section entitled "I Nearly Gave Up," you'll find that many of our successful members experienced both up's and down's during their eHarmony experience.

You mentioned that we make "too good to be true" promises. The truth is, we can't and don't guarantee every member's success. We actually state so in our Terms and Conditions of Service. However, we do believe that we provide a very “good” service, which has resulted in great success for many of our members.

Currently, 236 eHarmony members, on average, get married EVERY day, and, we learned just recently, 2% of all marriages in the U.S are eHarmony couples! I don't know of any other relationship site that has the same or better verified statistics. However, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and those statistics may not be good enough for some. If so, they can certainly choose not try our site.

Our matching policy is and always has been to provide our free matching service to anyone who meets our eligibility requirements and successfully completes the Relationship Questionnaire. We believe that the best way to help you find that special match is to provide you with as many highly-compatible matches as possible.

However, we want to reiterate that, regarding non-paying members, we only match those members who have indicated that they wish to be part of the matching pool and are actively using their account.

Also, our research has shown that, statistically, there is practically no difference between paying and non-paying members in their willingness to communicate, and that many non-paying members quickly transition to paying members. If you read our Success Stories or even some of the post here on eHarmony Advice, you'll find that many paying members were successfully matched with someone who was, initially, a "non-paying" member.

If someone had questions about our free matching service, they can always get information from the Help link available at the bottom of all our site pages. They can also e-mail our Customer Care desk if they need additional assistance.

Even though our matching policy has lead to all the success I mentioned above, there will be some who will still disagree with this policy. That's fine. However, when registering to use our site members are required to agree to use our service AS IS and those who are unwilling to be bound by our Terms and Conditions of Service are advised not to use our site or service.

Big_Bopper, I hope I've assured you that we are not trying to "scam" our members. But, even if you aren't totally convinced, I hope you'll at least give us the opportunity to help you have a better eHarmony experience by contacting our Customer Care desk. A Customer Care agent will be very glad to review your account and make suggestions which may be helpful in increasing your rate of communication.

You can e-mail Customer Care from the Help link located at the bottom of all our Singles site pages or by clicking here: http://help-singles.eharmony.com/. From the FAQ page, click on any topic, and you will see an e-mail link. Once your e-mail is successfully sent, you will receive a confirmation number, and a Customer Care agent will be glad to follow up with you.

All the best,

-Renee
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- September 25th, 2009, 08:08 pm
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I agree with Big Bopper, although all my more detailed posts on the subject in various threads seem to disappear.

EH works for some; when it doesn't work for others, the advice is to 1) lower standards and/or 2) pay more and wait longer....

Great way to fufill your role as match maker vice being honest in saying, 'dear valued customers, although we would like to match you with others, there just don't seem to be many EH singles in your area."
- September 25th, 2009, 11:00 pm
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I think it is you; not EH. I had a sub for a month. I dropped out because I was busy. But dates with 6 diffrent women in that; 3 from EH. The 3 were pleasent intriguing woman. Didn't click. But that's nothing to do with EH. Others have though. Yes, I think it you. Perhaps if EH culled out dudes along with inactive, some women would have less to complain about.
- September 26th, 2009, 12:24 am
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I suspect that as Fleuellen said it is you.

For Big_Bopper, NathanCM and the others of the same mind set eHarmony will not work for you because you have developed the mindset that it is a scam and doesn't work.

But guys leave eHarmony, get off, close your subscription, remove your profiles. It will leave more quality women for me.
- September 26th, 2009, 07:08 am
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I have to agree that there is definitely a scam aspect to eHarmony.

It might work for young people and those in large US cities that have a high enough member base...but I am just guessing at that.

All I know is that out of over 500 matches and countless attempts to communicate, only 1 man has agreed to meet....and that was within the first month I joined.

My experience has been that men do not respond to "ice breakers", fast track or guided communication. I suspect the bulk of my matches are not actual members and that there is no matching criteria applied other than age and distance.

When I wrote customer service about the poor "matches" I was told that eHarmony cannot, or will not, provide me with any membership statistics for my area. They did, however, trot out the advertising line about how 236 eHarmony members marry every day. *sigh*

eHarmony members may marry...but how many of those are over 50 and from the west coast of Canada??? I suspect none.
- September 26th, 2009, 08:43 am
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Not EH's biggest fan... I've been paying for four years now...

EH is very frustrating because the match that we like doesn't respond or closes us.

But why do a lot of us come back? (There are plenty of the posters here that will report "I was a member for three months. Then not for three months. Then I rejoined...")

"Democracy is a lousy form of government but it's the best thing we've got!"

If EH weren't actually providing a useful service, EH would dry up and go away. These boards are evidence that people actually ARE interested in making EH work for them!
- September 26th, 2009, 10:26 am
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You are right, Big Bopper. I wanted to be hopeful, but I think that this is all just a cruel scam. I’ve been using the eHarmony site for four months and I have never had contact with anyone. It’s also a blow to the ego when you have the distance set at 300 miles and there is seemingly no one that can be matched with you. I hardly ever get any matches and when I do, the profiles are poorly written – bordering on illiteracy and photos are hardly ever included. I have had about twenty matches so far and most of these men have never even viewed my profile. This leads me to believe that I am being matched with men who are not even members, which is extremely frustrating. I am paying for a service and I have gotten nothing in return. I do not plan on renewing my membership. It is a waste of time, effort and money and I cannot afford to lose either of these things.
- September 26th, 2009, 11:47 am
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You are right, Big Bopper. I wanted to be hopeful, but I think that this is all just a cruel scam. I’ve been using the eHarmony site for four months and I have never had contact with anyone. It’s also a blow to the ego when you have the distance set at 300 miles and there is seemingly no one that can be matched with you. I hardly ever get any matches and when I do, the profiles are poorly written – bordering on illiteracy and photos are hardly ever included. I have had about twenty matches so far and most of these men have never even viewed my profile. This leads me to believe that I am being matched with men who are not even members, which is extremely frustrating. I am paying for a service and I have gotten nothing in return. I do not plan on renewing my membership. It is a waste of time, effort and money and I cannot afford to lose either of these things.
Sorry to hear about your really low success rate! Right now I'm kind of in a dry spell also. I have about 37 of 40 matches on my first page awaiting their answers to my first set of questions.

A couple of things to consider:

Change up your distance setting - it doesn't work as you would expect it to. Also, increase your distance setting - even if you don't think you'd want to move, maybe the guy would. We all want close matches but I think a lot of us require much wider search zones for success.

Up your max age to one year beyond what you think you want. Being matched with someone is not a marriage contract - if you don't like the guys you're matched with you can close them.

Consider your "black&white" questions (religion, etc) - Can you allow some more OK answers? Can you make some of these less important?

EH is a numbers game - just like playing poker, you have to keep on looking at hands until you find one that you like - the more hands that you can get yourself dealt the quicker this will happen.
- September 26th, 2009, 05:58 pm
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I have to agree that there is definitely a scam aspect to eHarmony.

It might work for young people and those in large US cities that have a high enough member base...but I am just guessing at that.

All I know is that out of over 500 matches and countless attempts to communicate, only 1 man has agreed to meet....and that was within the first month I joined.

My experience has been that men do not respond to "ice breakers", fast track or guided communication. I suspect the bulk of my matches are not actual members and that there is no matching criteria applied other than age and distance.

When I wrote customer service about the poor "matches" I was told that eHarmony cannot, or will not, provide me with any membership statistics for my area. They did, however, trot out the advertising line about how 236 eHarmony members marry every day. *sigh*

eHarmony members may marry...but how many of those are over 50 and from the west coast of Canada??? I suspect none.
I am based in the UK, and also had the same problems, then I realised it was me. I looked at the pictures first, not the profiles. Closed out many potential matches, without the correct level of consideration. Had many Icebreakers not answered, then I wrote to every single one, it's a mail shot, use the shotgun approach. I have had much more success, I still get matches who close me out before I have read their profile,who cares, not me it's their loss, There are no poor matches( except the unsubscribing ones), just too high expectations. Try it and see what happens, (I had 5 communicating from 250 - 2%) so from 500 you may have had 10 potentials but unless you ask them all who knows? good luck, I understand that the west coast is pretty damp too? this may have a part to play.
- September 26th, 2009, 06:29 pm
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