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PLEASE READ THIS FIRST

Okay, it's time to get a dose of reality and face some important facts about eHarmony!

Personally, I can identify with 3 major problems with EH that are upsetting a lot of members on EH, most especially with paid subscribers. And to make matters worse (and this is just common sense), most paid subscribers that come to EH and are dissapointed with these major problems with the service I am sure more than likely go and tell 10-20 of their relatives or friends to "never ever ever join EH for any reason whatsoever! It's not worth your time or your investment! Just stay away!" And to make matters even worse, Word of Mouth is the most effective form of advertising by the way, and it's more than doubly effective when used negatively against a company!

So, in effect, to put a stop to this nightmare from overshadowing eHarmony and perhaps even putting the company out of business permanently someday if EH doesn't start listening to their customers instead of trying to do what they feel is best for themselves (evidenced by the lack of care and support in responses from EH Customer Care and also by the lack of the company to make any significant positive changes to their service in the last couple of years, at least any that are noticeable by members).

And I am not writing this post for no reason at all, fellow subscribers, as I too am going through the same frustrations currently on an ongoing everyday-basis as you are. I am just as frustrated as you are, believe it or not. I too, feel like much of my investment and time spent on EH is being wasted due to these ongoing annoyances. I, too, keep getting a vast majority of matches on EH that give me an immediate gut feeling that they are waste of time and not worth dealing with, and the fact of the matter is is that I am probably right about these matches at least 90-95% of the time, based on a lengthy past experience I have had with similiar types of matches received.

So let's get started, shall we. . .

The 3 problems that are focus of this message are:

  1. Members Receiving too Many Matches without Photos
  2. Members Receiving too Many Matches that are Non-Paid Members, that they are Unable to Communicate with, and most often Never Changes
  3. Members receiving too Many Matches with Incomplete Profiles, that do not contain Enough Useful Information about the Match

eHarmony already has in place an excellent model of technology to help solve these problems with the service and then some, and it still bewilders me to this day why EH chooses not to implement it further into their service. Perhaps they feel as if it would restrict matching too much so that ALL members won't receive enough matches? Well, there is actually a compromise for this, you know, and I for one feel like this is more of quality game than a numbers game in my honest opinion. Wouldn't you agree? It only takes 1 excellent match to change your whole life! You just need more power to filter out and separate the bad apples from the good ones!

It's called flex settings and it's based on a scale of 1-7, with 1 meaning 'Not Important' and 7 meaning 'Very Important'. This was an ingenious idea when it was first implemented into eHarmony, as it allowed all members to gain more control over who they were matched with. Now it is time for EH to implement this feature even further into the service, but only to do so in a way that makes for a compromise, so that the matching process doesn't become to restrictive. You do this by giving access to certain specific flex settings (the following 3 are a start) to paid subscribers only and making them unavailable (or greyed out) to non-paid members. Ingenious, eh?!



#1 Matching Based on the Availability of Photos

This is a new flex setting available to paid subscribers only that does not require a 'Yes' or 'No' question and answer. It is only based on scale of 1-7, which determines how important this is to the subscriber. A setting of 7 means that the subscriber will only receive matches that have at least 1 photo; any matches that have no photos at all will be effectively filtered out. The more the subscriber moves this slider to the left, the more the likelihood increases that the subscriber will receive a match without a photo. A setting of 1 effectively shuts this flex setting off, and all matches will come through regardless of wether or not they have a photo. NOTE: This feature works in exactly the same manner for matches who have chosen not to reveal their photos until a later communication stage.

#2 Matching Based on Subscription/No-Subscription Status

This is a new flex setting available to paid subscribers only that allows subscribers to set how important it is to them that the matches they receive are paid subscribers or not. A setting of 7 does not necessarily mean that the subscriber won't be matched with any non-paid members at all. It simply means that the chances are very high (90%+) that each match that comes through will be a match that the subscriber can communicate with. So, in effect, if you set this setting to 7 then likely as many as 9/10 matches that you receive will be paid subscribers. Moving this slider to the left increases the likelihood that you will be matched with non-paid members. A setting of 1 effectively shuts this flex setting off, and you will be matched with all matches regardless of wether they are paid or not. However, this new feature will in no way tell you which individual matches you receive are paid or not paid; it will still leave you second-guessing at this, until you actually are communicating with a match, as it always has been.

#3 Matching Based on the Completeness/Thoroughness of 'About Me' Profiles

From now on, whenever a member edits their 'About Me' profile and saves the changes, the eHarmony system will automatically count the total number of characters in your profile (including spaces) and display that number to you on the screen. This is critical information for each member because the shorter your profile, the less matches you are likely to receive! If you want to receive many more matches, then this new feature should motivate you to complete your 'About Me' profile! It should motivate you to understand the importance of completing your profile!

This is a new flex setting available to paid subscribers only that allows you answer 'yes' or 'no' on wether or not your matches have a completed profile is important to you. If you answer 'No' then this flex setting is effectively turned off and you will receive matches regardless of the length of their profile. If you answer 'yes', then you must also input the minimum number of characters a profile must have in order for you to be matched with that member. There is a restriction on this feature, however. The minimum number you can set here does have a maximum limit. 'About Me' profiles already do have a maximum theoretical length to begin with. The maximum number you can set here will be set by EH in order to be fair to all members. Any matches that have profiles with less than the number of characters you enter here, will be filtered out and you will not be matched with them. Any matches that have at least your minimum number of characters and above in their profile you will be matched with.



By the way, I don't think that EH should ever even think about or consider taking any of their already-existing flex settings and converting them into premium flex settings for paid subscribers only. That no-doubtedly would cause a customer service outcry and a major nightmare for the company and non-paid members! It would be very unfair to everyone. DON'T DO IT!!!

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- September 9th, 2009, 03:11 pm
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Your suggestions are very interesting. I thought that your complaint about customer care did not ring true, as I have received excellent response from their representatives. Although they are not empowered to resolve every kind of possible request, they have referred me to those who could help in those situations.

There are other discussions for improving the eHarmony interface, and you may want to post on those. I've already suggested the following:

- Add a spelling and syntax checking tool to the profile entry form. (Edit: Please rate this post versus this single suggestion.)

- Add a warning that no photo typically limits responses.

- Add a warning that un-filled profile segments can limit responses.

- Add links to related advice for each and every part of the "About Me" profile creation and editing.

- Add a time-out warning for when you are taking too long to fill out a form (profile or article).

Your idea for better filtering is quite clever with respect to the efficiency of reviewing new introductions. However, there is a risk that setting the filters to high levels could cause some clients to never be introduced to the right match. This risk is likely why such filtering is not provided.

I may be biased, in that eHarmony has provided me with great introductions. I've found that no photo is not an issue for me. I've found that non-subscriber status has killed some contacts, but others have worked out fine. I do dislike empty or skimpy profile entries, but that is just my personal preference. However, requiring a minimum number of characters in every field makes a data entry form to be hostile to many users.

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Robert_inSD wrote :
I do dislike empty or skimpy profile entries, but that is just my personal preference. However, requiring a minimum number of characters in every field makes a data entry form to be hostile to many users.
No, you misquoted me. What I said is that the total number of characters for the entire profile should be counted, not for each individual field, and that this number alone will apply to your settings.
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That might be tricky for a total profile character count, but my apologies for not perceiving all of the details of your post. As a level-based filter, that's not such a barrier for data entry.

We both want to improve the system, and I applaud your efforts.
- September 9th, 2009, 04:20 pm
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EHarmony profile matching is an excellent concept. Matching paid subscribers with unpaid subscribers who had no way of communicating with a paid match left me with the feeling that the $ 's in EH"s pocket was more important than providing a viable matching system to paid subscribers. A willingness to re-evaluate this shows good faith on the part of EH, and is encouraging to us paid subscribers.
- September 11th, 2009, 04:10 pm
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I really like the idea of premium flex settings including the ideas you proposed. Kudos!
- September 11th, 2009, 04:34 pm
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you got my vote for these ideas too! Perhaps we should start bombarding their customer service phone number and emails complaining???? Maybe overflowing their mailbox and crashing their phone system a few times will get them to consider changes???

A squeaky wheel gets the grease they say! Who is up for it?
- September 12th, 2009, 11:58 pm
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theweave wrote :
you got my vote for these ideas too! Perhaps we should start bombarding their customer service phone number and emails complaining???? Maybe overflowing their mailbox and crashing their phone system a few times will get them to consider changes???

A squeaky wheel gets the grease they say! Who is up for it?
I'm with you!

Okay, everyone! Let's all forward the link to this forum to EH Customer Care and smother them with it! Ready?

On your mark, get set, GO!!!
- September 13th, 2009, 11:36 am
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Recent posts by others talk about flooding the service channels with requests for attention. I am completely against the use of such tactics, as it is equivalent to a Distributed Denial Of Service attack against a provider. Further, I do not agree with all of the proposed service concept changes as written.

There are more appropriate ways to attract attention for the evolution of eHarmony services. Here is one way that occurred to me.

Itemize the proposed changes into separate replies, and ask viewers to rate each reply individually. The number of votes and spread of ratings will give developers a better perspective regarding which changes are most desired.

Development of any change requires extensive analysis and review, followed by prototyping and testing. What we as clients may think of as a trivial change may in fact be complex in terms of its ramifications. Expecting any response of more than "Your suggestion will be considered" is unrealistic, in terms of practicality.

I do not wish to denigrate others for their desire for service changes. We all wish to have an expedient and effective result for the investment of our time and money. No, I do not work for eHarmony, but I do try to work with them, to better achieve the results I desire.
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