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Robert_inSD is offline Robert_inSD Post #1  September 2,2009, 2:31pm
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I just got my first fast track request from a lady, with several odd elements. It was my first experience of receiving a fast track request in 100's of introductions, and I was flattered, so I clicked to see her message to me.

What do you all think? Here are some relevant details:

a. Request for fast track was 3 weeks after introduction. (I can chalk this up to just schedule logistics.)

b. Profile was mostly 1-word, or missing answers. (Possible new subscriber?)

c. Two photos available, nice looking, but not studio/glamor shots.

d. The message never mentioned anything about my profile.

e. The message never asked anything about me.

f. The message mentioned her age, which was one year different than her profile information. (A generic message copy? It still had a couple of syntax and spelling errors.)

g. She is 10 years younger than me, which is fine, but a first for initiating communications.

These added up to a red flag to me. I do not wish to denigrate the lady, as she may just be shy and taking what is a bold step for her.
Any other perspectives on this?
 
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It does sound a bit "copy & pasted" and definitely all of it appears to be a red flag!

When is it appropriate to fast track?
 
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j3ab wrote :
When is it appropriate to fast track?
Some people prefer from the beginning to fasttrack. One match recently asked to fasttrack, although it was stated that she preferred GC. I said to myself, she probably wants to close me in her own words and I was right, although I wish she wouldn't have done that.

To answer your question, if someone is in GC and a medical emergency [or maybe unexpected traveling or tragedy] came up that you could not use the computer for a time - that actually happened to me a few months back, but I was already in fasttrack with a match.

Or maybe you got more involved with another one of your matches and wanted to tell the match you were in GC with, rather than just close abruptly.

Otherwise, why not go through GC to the end?
 
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Hey Robert...

I had something similar happen to me today. Mine was a woman with a very fragile grasp on English, foreign born. While her profile was complete and actually kinda meaty, her fasttrack message was fairly quick and to the point. Saying we should meet soon, and not offering a phone number or asking for mine. She said my name in the subject line and in the body of the message complimented me on my smile. Putting odds here, I'm not the only smiler online. She did say the city she lives in, but in her profile in 'additional information' went on with needing a 'green card.'

Not quite a Nigerian money wiring to a bank in London type of scam, but fishy none the less.
 
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Robert_inSD wrote :
I just got my first fast track request from a lady, with several odd elements. It was my first experience of receiving a fast track request in 100's of introductions, and I was flattered, so I clicked to see her message to me.

What do you all think? Here are some relevant details:

a. Request for fast track was 3 weeks after introduction. (I can chalk this up to just schedule logistics.)

b. Profile was mostly 1-word, or missing answers. (Possible new subscriber?)

c. Two photos available, nice looking, but not studio/glamor shots.

d. The message never mentioned anything about my profile.

e. The message never asked anything about me.

f. The message mentioned her age, which was one year different than her profile information. (A generic message copy? It still had a couple of syntax and spelling errors.)

g. She is 10 years younger than me, which is fine, but a first for initiating communications.

These added up to a red flag to me. I do not wish to denigrate the lady, as she may just be shy and taking what is a bold step for her.
Any other perspectives on this?
What did she say in the message. Sounds like it could be one of those Nigerian Romance Scammers
 
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DeBrown is offline DeBrown Post #6  September 3,2009, 6:35am
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Hi Robert!

Well I'm going to go against the grain here, no offense to anyone else or their opinions! :-)

I don't see what the big deal is.

1. Fast track was 3 weeks after introduction. As you said, there is probably a job/scheduling issue there, or in my words, a perfectly logical explanation.

2. Profile was 1 word or missing answers. I don't like this when my matches do this, but I don't consider it "odd" or worrisome. I just figure they can't write. I teach writing at a university. You'd be surprised at the number of people who can't put pencil to paper. OR I think maybe they are just really uncomfortable talking about themselves.

3. Two photos, nice, but not studio/glamor shots. What on earth is odd about this??? Hardly any pictures I ever see are studio shots.

4/5. The message didn't mention my profile/she didn't ask about me. Again, this may be an inability to communicate well with the written word, but I would hardly call it "odd." At the outside, I would say it could smack of being self centered or socially impolite.

6. Age 1 year different than profile. I would assume she had a birthday since making her original profile and hasn't changed it yet. Syntax/spelling errors. Again, what's odd about that? Nine out of ten matches I receive have spelling/syntax errors. It's annoying to me as a teacher of writing, but hardly a red flag.

7. 10 years younger. Well, I am 49. If I don't include a very wide age range of up to about 12 years older than I, I don't get matches. I'm not sure how old you are, but we middle aged women have to cast a wide net age-wise if we expect to get any matches. I rarely get a match that is less than 5 years older than I.

So, Robert-- in my humble opinion, when you look at each element, there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for everything. I am the type of person who always prefers to think the best of people and of their intentions. There is absolutely not one shred of logical, empirical evidence that this is a "Nigerian romance scammer" or anything else extraordinary.

So you have 3 choices. You can close the match now. You can agree to the fast track. Or you can decline fast track but still be willing to go with GC if she agrees.

Only YOU can decide which is the right move for you! :-) Good luck and I hope this was helpful for you!!
 
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j3ab wrote :
It does sound a bit "copy & pasted" and definitely all of it appears to be a red flag!

When is it appropriate to fast track?
Whenever you want to. Many people feel there is no value in the Guided Communication and some therefore just request to Fast Track.
 
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Robert_inSD wrote :
I just got my first fast track request from a lady, with several odd elements. It was my first experience of receiving a fast track request in 100's of introductions, and I was flattered, so I clicked to see her message to me.

What do you all think? Here are some relevant details:

a. Request for fast track was 3 weeks after introduction. (I can chalk this up to just schedule logistics.)

b. Profile was mostly 1-word, or missing answers. (Possible new subscriber?)

c. Two photos available, nice looking, but not studio/glamor shots.

d. The message never mentioned anything about my profile.

e. The message never asked anything about me.

f. The message mentioned her age, which was one year different than her profile information. (A generic message copy? It still had a couple of syntax and spelling errors.)

g. She is 10 years younger than me, which is fine, but a first for initiating communications.

These added up to a red flag to me. I do not wish to denigrate the lady, as she may just be shy and taking what is a bold step for her.
Any other perspectives on this?
Unless there is more that you have no told us I just don't see a red flag here. I won't disagree that there is a lot lacking by requesting Fast Track and not composing a good introductory e-mail but that in and of itself does not constitute a red flag to me.
 
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Unless there is more that you have no told us I just don't see a red flag here. I won't disagree that there is a lot lacking by requesting Fast Track and not composing a good introductory e-mail but that in and of itself does not constitute a red flag to me.
Your thoughts were similar to my initial ones, GryGuyn2008. You can see why I started this thread for more views and advice.

Some quotes from the initial fast track message (not out of context) also concerned me:
h. "I have the Amreican culture most apprciated quintessential qualities such as determination, intellegence, kindness and financial security.."
This is just a nit-pick from me. Why not use spell checking on a copied and pasted message?

i. This was followed by a great poem about what a woman offers, but was then followed by a poorly written addition. The writing styles did not match at all.

j. "But i believe here is improbable love, and abiding faith and friendship between a couple , i think when i am once more in consternation, there will your sturdy shoulders.."
I don't mind this one, but interpretation of the meaning can vary. I included the entire paragraph for context.

and...
k. "...and you do not need to be good looking..even I am fairly good and youngthful look with 5'5 100p."

To me, this person is obviously casting a wide net, to see who might respond. It may be a response to her own frustrations, or a scam. I'm not certain either way.

Others that I PM'd about the original list said that they saw about six red flags. I've given the lady time to answer my own response to her, which expressed my concern about being treated in such a generic and objectified manner. (I was carefully more kind in my words to her.)
 
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I'm a foreign language teacher and have had many a paper turned in by my students having been written using an online translator. They look a lot like what you've provided from the email. She's definitely foreign born with a very shaky (if not poor to bad) grasp of the English language - not necessarily problems w/in themselves. Several things in what you've provided, especially that last comment about not needing to be good looking, make me think she's A) a scammer or B) looking for a way to stay in the US. Just my 2 cents. Take 'em for what they're worth.
 
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