Free Communication Weekend and the Theory of Match Counts


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ScottK is offline ScottK Post #1  May 25,2009, 7:49am
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Hi all,

Just some random thoughts on a Free Communication Weekend of lots and lots of obvious "dead" Profiles of people with 2 sentences in their whole Profile and No photo...

I was pondering this one over this Free Weekend, and I am wondering if others might have some input...

About 6 months ago, EH changed how Matching works when getting matched to a non-paying member...

If you (a paying member) are matched with a non-paying member, they will first deliver the Match to the non-paying member, and only when they look at your Profile, does the Match get delivered to the paying member.
In theory, this is absolutely great change for us paying members, as it ensures we generally get either paying members, or at least somewhat active non-paying members.

So, the 4 facts:

1) I still get delivered 7 Matches a day each morning on non-Free-Weekends.
2) On the Free Weekends, I get delivered 9 Matches a day.
3) I have NEVER received a Match Notification (in the past 6 months) during the day. They always come each morning when EH does their matching scan.
4) During the Free Weekend, *all* members (paying and non-paying) are considered paying matches, and thus can be delivered right away without waiting for the non-paying to view Profiles.

Can we derive anything out of this?

Does this mean that EH actually does up to 9 Matches every day, 7 real ones, and 2 to non-paying members?

If so, what happens to either of those 2 non-paying matches if either one of them were to look at my Profile, (and thus completing the Match)?

Does that Match get sent to me right away?
(Which I have never seen)

Or does the Match get queued to me for the next day?
(And they become one of my 7 "real" matches?)

If the latter is true, what happens if the Match ante ups the $$$ to join after they view me? Does that match still wait till the next day to be delivered? Or does EH deliver the Match right away?
 
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How do you know that non-pays get the match first?

I've actually gotten two or three matches at odd times, so it's not simply just that they run a cron job on the database once a day. There's some other trigger that I haven't figured out yet.

Here's what I've pieced together :
1. They run their matching scripts at 1am PST.
2. If you hit the "Find new matches" link while they scripts are running, it'll always kick out matches to you. They'll usually be flex matches and not so great. It also involves being awake at stupid hours, so it's not worth it.
3. I'm fairly certain the number of matches per day you get is somehow based on what membership term you sign up for. I almost think that the longer the term, the less matches you get per day. It's like they take the total pool in your area, divide by your membership term, and that average is you max per day. I've never gotten more than 6 per day, but it seems some get as many as 12 per day.
 
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coffeegeek wrote :
How do you know that non-pays get the match first?
Its one of the new changes they did early this year.
Either Kate and/or Renee confirmed it.
 
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coffeegeek wrote :
3. I'm fairly certain the number of matches per day you get is somehow based on what membership term you sign up for. I almost think that the longer the term, the less matches you get per day. It's like they take the total pool in your area, divide by your membership term, and that average is you max per day. I've never gotten more than 6 per day, but it seems some get as many as 12 per day.
Nope. The reason you get less as time goes by, is that you exhaust the pool of Matches that had joined before you.

Once you exhaust that pool, you get sent Matches of people that are joining EHarmony that day.
Of course, you can change this by relaxing some of your Flex Match settings. This will expand your search, and should pick up some "older" Matches that EH didn't send originally.
 
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ScottK wrote :
Nope. The reason you get less as time goes by, is that you exhaust the pool of Matches that had joined before you.

Once you exhaust that pool, you get sent Matches of people that are joining EHarmony that day.
Of course, you can change this by relaxing some of your Flex Match settings. This will expand your search, and should pick up some "older" Matches that EH didn't send originally.
I understand that. Let me explain further. Let's say I just joined and there are 100 people in the dating pool based on my location and preferences. Now, I could get all 100 on the first night, but that doesn't happen. EH uses some methodology to throttle the maximum number of matches you get per day. You can tell because you'll have many consecutive days of getting that number of matches, meaning the pool isn't depleted, you're just hitting your max allotment. Mine happens to be 6 for whatever reason, but I've met people who have as little as 3 per day or as many as 12. Changing your preferences doesn't seem to effect your maximum per diem allotment (in my experience), it simply expands the pool you can pull from. The only difference I could put my finger on based on comparing notes with other members is the length of time we signed up for. I think the idea here is to keep you active and happy with EH for as long as possible.
 
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OMG! I am soo green. I just joined this week and have not clue about most of the terms being used. "Flex Match Setting," for example. I was unaware there is technique involved. I assumed you review what is sent and go from there. Many of these posts are plots and plans to make this process more effective. This is great but there must be a huge learning curve. "Do you open the new matches that are sent or wait for the match to appear as 1234, etc???"
"Who Has View Me" tricks. This is probably why I was so hesitant to try on-line dating. I am quite intrigued by the different approaches.
 
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coffeegeek wrote :
I've actually gotten two or three matches at odd times, so it's not simply just that they run a cron job on the database once a day. There's some other trigger that I haven't figured out yet.
I've gotten a few matches at odd times too. I think it might be because the other person ran "find new matches" during the day and I got matched with them.
 
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mzvik wrote :
OMG! I am soo green. I just joined this week and have not clue about most of the terms being used. "Flex Match Setting," for example. I was unaware there is technique involved. I assumed you review what is sent and go from there. Many of these posts are plots and plans to make this process more effective. This is great but there must be a huge learning curve. "Do you open the new matches that are sent or wait for the match to appear as 1234, etc???"
"Who Has View Me" tricks. This is probably why I was so hesitant to try on-line dating. I am quite intrigued by the different approaches.
"Flex match" means that while you still get matched the usual way on personality, the person is outside of what one or the other of you specified in your preferences (distance, height, age etc). eH says they send you those when they haven't got closer matches to send you at the moment.

The only thing you can do to affect who gets matched with you is change your preference settings.

The main thing I learned in my first week was this: you get tons of matches right away and later on there are fewer. So don't go closing people out right and left. You can just leave a match sitting there indefinitely without doing anything with it.

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Even if all of this is true, does it change anything? No.
 
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JerzyGirl527 wrote :
Even if all of this is true, does it change anything? No.
Thus the difference between us Engineers and the rest of society.

I am interested in how things tick.

I want to know why EHarmony does the things they do, and the theory behind why its done.

Does it change things, like you ask?
Nope, not in the least.

Thats not the point. I want to understand WHY something is done on EHarmony...

Obviously a lot of it is because of Profit. But there also has to be some logic beyond Profit as to why some things are done. This is what I want to know!

I can't imagine going through life not pondering why something is the way it is.
Not doing so seems so.... boring...
 
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