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mytwocents is offline mytwocents Post #21  June 20,2010, 5:51am
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what a difference a year makes!

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For those who are discouraged, I offer this one bit of encouragement. My best eHarmony match and I just celebrated our 1 year wedding anniversary. I had been on eHarmony off and on for about a year and was ready to quit again when he and I were matched. And to be honest, I wasn't interested in him at first either. But he was persistent and didn't give up when we met. He wasn't a stalker or anything. He was just himself and kept working at our friendship until my feelings caught up with his. EHarmony is a first step. I would strongly recommend developing a friendship before romance while you get to know each other. And don't give up too soon... whether on the site or once you meet a potential match. Yes there will be LOTS of people that don't respond. But you're really only looking for one person. All those that didn't respond and the matches that didn't work out are REALLY irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Keep active in your offline life, don't let online stuff consume you. If you find yourself obsessing, take a break and gain some perspective. I would also suggest praying and letting God guide your steps, but I realize not everyone believes in that. But that is what worked for us. I wish you all success in finding the love of your life.
 
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mytwocents is offline mytwocents Post #22  June 20,2010, 6:02am
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And Shedeville, we may not agree on religion or politics, but your response was well written and spot on. Good post!
 
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TooMuchLomi is offline TooMuchLomi Post #23  June 21,2010, 7:38pm
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Though the original poster may never see this message, since it was posted months ago, I am sure that someone may make use of what I have to say on the general topic of success in online dating.

Online dating is very different from any other dating service or good old fashioned cold approaches. It is entirely about making a first impression, without ever even meeting the person who is looking at raw data that you have given to that person in the form of a profile. Most guys think that means that they should throw facts and figures out there in the hopes that a woman will like what she sees and decide to communicate with them. This does not work... women aren't logical or even rational in their day to day activities, so why guys think this would be any different online is beyond me.

It is all about how you make a woman feel, if your profile is worded in such a way that makes them think you are talking directly to them, they will respond. Likewise, if you seem cool and confident in who you are and are able to show that through humour, you are miles ahead of nearly every other guy out there. Your pictures have a huge effect on your response rate as well, don't let anyone tell you otherwise... this is a dating site, not a friends site. You need attraction, and you will not get it if your pictures are chosen poorly. There are tons of articles out there on what sort of pictures to put up though, so I would suggest googling them.

Another mistake a lot of guys make is waiting to respond, just like they would wait to call if they got a number. DO NOT DO THIS. If a woman is interacting with you, respond, it is not like it takes much time out of your day... most people have blackberries these days as well, which makes it even easier to quickly respond to messages. Why respond quickly? Because the most attractive women on any dating site can get hundreds of emails daily... if you wait, you get forgotten.


I could write for hours, but I hope what I have written helps at least one guy out there.
 
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mytwocents wrote :
For those who are discouraged, I offer this one bit of encouragement. My best eHarmony match and I just celebrated our 1 year wedding anniversary. I had been on eHarmony off and on for about a year and was ready to quit again when he and I were matched. And to be honest, I wasn't interested in him at first either. But he was persistent and didn't give up when we met. He wasn't a stalker or anything. He was just himself and kept working at our friendship until my feelings caught up with his. EHarmony is a first step. I would strongly recommend developing a friendship before romance while you get to know each other. And don't give up too soon... whether on the site or once you meet a potential match. Yes there will be LOTS of people that don't respond. But you're really only looking for one person. All those that didn't respond and the matches that didn't work out are REALLY irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Keep active in your offline life, don't let online stuff consume you. If you find yourself obsessing, take a break and gain some perspective. I would also suggest praying and letting God guide your steps, but I realize not everyone believes in that. But that is what worked for us. I wish you all success in finding the love of your life.
Hi mytwocents,

Congratulations on your 1 year Anniversary!

Thank you for sharing your story. Something I hope current members take note of is that you took a chance on your husband
even though you weren't interested in him initially. Many members feel that, if they don't feel an instant interest in a match, the match can't possibly be the one and either close the match or don't respond to communication requests. (I just wonder how many potentially terrific relationships never had a chance because members weren't willing to communicate with such matches. )

Also, even after meeting, members sometimes are discouraged if they don't feel an instant attraction. You story sure proves that romantic feelings can develop over time and many happy couples say that their partner is their best friend.

Your eHarmony experience, perspective, and advice may be just the thing to help a discouraged member continue their search with a more open-mind and positive attitude; so thank you for taking the time to reach out to these members.

All the best to you and your eHarmony husband!

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melman is offline melman Post #25  June 22,2010, 9:11pm
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TooMuchLomi wrote :
Though the original poster may never see this message, since it was posted months ago, I am sure that someone may make use of what I have to say on the general topic of success in online dating.

Online dating is very different from any other dating service or good old fashioned cold approaches. It is entirely about making a first impression, without ever even meeting the person who is looking at raw data that you have given to that person in the form of a profile. Most guys think that means that they should throw facts and figures out there in the hopes that a woman will like what she sees and decide to communicate with them. This does not work... women aren't logical or even rational in their day to day activities, so why guys think this would be any different online is beyond me.

It is all about how you make a woman feel, if your profile is worded in such a way that makes them think you are talking directly to them, they will respond. Likewise, if you seem cool and confident in who you are and are able to show that through humour, you are miles ahead of nearly every other guy out there. Your pictures have a huge effect on your response rate as well, don't let anyone tell you otherwise... this is a dating site, not a friends site. You need attraction, and you will not get it if your pictures are chosen poorly. There are tons of articles out there on what sort of pictures to put up though, so I would suggest googling them.

Another mistake a lot of guys make is waiting to respond, just like they would wait to call if they got a number. DO NOT DO THIS. If a woman is interacting with you, respond, it is not like it takes much time out of your day... most people have blackberries these days as well, which makes it even easier to quickly respond to messages. Why respond quickly? Because the most attractive women on any dating site can get hundreds of emails daily... if you wait, you get forgotten.


I could write for hours, but I hope what I have written helps at least one guy out there.
I am curious to know how you could possibly know what "most guys" are doing.

You are new here. I think if you hang around awhile and join some of the discussions, you will find that there are many points of view. And so far, we haven't figured out the secrets to the universe yet.

And I write this even though I agree with much of what you have written.
 
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gabyd is offline gabyd Post #26  June 22,2010, 10:48pm
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Hi there,

I have been on eH for about 6 weeks now and have had quite a lot of interest and good matches, 6 of whom I am communicating with. So, these are some of my thoughts on why you may not be getting responses. Please note, this is just one persons opinion.

One thing you might look at is your choice of screen name. Latinluvah is not someone I would want to talk to. You have a real name I am sure and I would much rather communicate with someone named Carlos, Jose, John, Stewart, Chris, Bill, Paul etc than someone who calls himself Latinluvah!!!.

I think that one of the things women are worried about on dating and relationship sites is that the men are not serious and are only out for a good time or to "hook up". Screen names such as yours do not fill me with confidence that you will be a mature, solid citizen who could possibly one day meet my family and become a part of it.

As others have said, photo's are really important. WIthout one your match naturally wonders what you may have to hide. We are designed to be visual creatures and it is better to know early if you there will be any spark of attraction. And if you are a woman lucky enough to be matched with a lot of men then profiles with no photo and incomplete profiles tend to get closed rather quickly. After all, in a straw poll amongst my male friends and family members, men all want to see what the woman looks like before they will commence communication. Women are essentially the same.

Another thing for me is honesty in your profile and answers to questions. I have received matches from people whose profile was just too sickly sweet (and perfect) to be real. None of us are perfect, I understand that and don't expect my partner to be the perfect guy. If you have to watch the game with the boys every weekend, put that down. I may not mind being a temp widow while the tennis, football, cricket is on but it is a nice thing to know.

Likewise, if you are covered in tattoos, put that in (tatts happen to be a deal breaker for me. Facial hair can be shaved off but it is hard to get rid of tatts). BTW, I shave my legs, underarms etc and I expect my man will shave his face daily. But that is just me.

Don't lie about your height or weight either. Like a lot of men and women I wish I was taller and thinner (I am 168cm, or 5.6), which, for a female, is average. I will happily tell someone that (while I am in the normal category for BMI, I am at the top end) I would not mind being able to lose that 5 kilos that would allow me fit into a size 8 pair of jeans. My point is that if I develop a relationship with someone, go to meet them and find out they are inches shorter than they said they were (or that their photo is from 10 years ago when they we 10 kilos lighter), I wonder what else they are lying about. If you tell us your real height we may decide not to wear those 4 inch stiletto's for drinks with you. That won't necessarily stop us meeting you and would make for a much for comfortable first date.

It is a really hard business to try to find a partner today. Try to remember that we are all on this site because we are trying to find someone to share our lives with. Think about the type of girl/woman you want to attract and think about the type of man you would want for your sister and try to be that man.

Good luck in finding someone,

Gabrielle
 
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melman wrote :
I am curious to know how you could possibly know what "most guys" are doing.

You are new here. I think if you hang around awhile and join some of the discussions, you will find that there are many points of view. And so far, we haven't figured out the secrets to the universe yet.

And I write this even though I agree with much of what you have written.
I don't purport to be an expert, but I have a lot of friends who are trying or have tried internet dating. I also didn't just go in blindly, I had heard that most guys get no responses and quit within the first three months, so I made a few recon profiles and tried to distance myself from the boring and mundane responses I got.
 
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melman is offline melman Post #28  June 26,2010, 2:14pm
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No one does "recon profiles" on eH. All they do is get you in as a free member... unable to communicate, and only able to receive the first round of questions (the multiple choice ones).

Suggest you hang around here for a while and participate in the discussions, if you want to get a feel for the general experiences that folks have. For example, most people do appear to quit (men and women alike), due to lack of responses - but the real reason is that 75% or more of the matches that eH sends to a customer are DOA. Subscribers from 2004, or free-weekenders who haven't logged in in ages.
 
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nepacutie is offline nepacutie Post #29  January 15,2011, 7:25am

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I tried eHarmony a few times over the past 6 years. Unfortunately, I never had any luck. The concept is good, but I was never matched with anyone I was attracted to. I had more luck on other sites where I can choose the profile based on what I find attractive, then read thru the profiles to see if we have anything in common. Perhaps if I lived in a metropolitan area and had more choices available to me, then things might be different.

I really like the profiles that make me laugh...where the guy puts in little zinger comments...if I click on his profile b/c I'm somewhat attracted to him, and then I read a profile that makes me laugh or smile, I will definately email him back.

Personally, I don't like profiles where the profile pictures are of men holding a beer and cigarette at a bar with a bunch of buddies...or holding some sort of dead fish or animal. Shirtless pictures (unless at the beach or on a boat) are totally gross.
 
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There has been plenty of posts where I have seen that men don't start contact with woman and woman don't start it with men. I am a woman and I have tried to communicate with as many matches as I could. Even ones that I wasn't attracted to physically but I liked what they have writen in their profile. I like to read the profiles that is the deal breaker for me not the pictures. I would say I am a pretty woman (thats me) but I found it hard to get any responses on here. I haven't been on here all that long four months and I have only made it to open communication with one match. Others either responded to the first questions and closed out. Closed out after I sent the questions and the other 10 or so did nothing.
Its hard like the one wrote online dating is totally different you need to sell them with your profile. I had a profile review and most of my contentt was good the part that was hard for some was the story I wrote about how my sister is the one I looked up to because I put in there she died from cancer. Maybe thats the reason why who knows. It was the one thing that some were ify with and others were ok with because it could be a bit strong for a profile. I guess if you haven't done a profile review I would start there.
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