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The term "Nice guys finish last" is such a musty, old worn-out cliche' - certainly not one I would pull out of somedusty closet and use if I were a man describing myself. Such a banalterm brings to mind a man with only one aspect to his personality, which of course, none of us have. We are all multi-faceted people.I don't know of anyone who behaves in a one-dimensional manner all the time. If I were in a relationship with sucha man, I would think he was not too bright. Someone whobehaves ina nice manner under all circumstances gives the impression of being disingenuine and/or a doormat.


Now, don't get me wrong -kindness is one of the traits Idesire in a man. Yet, he would also be someone who is able to hold his own and stand up for himself when necessary. I would want to see both his kind side and his warrior** side. To me, that's what would make him a winner in my eyes. He wouldpossess all types of qualities, and still be akind person.


And how would a woman like me feel about a kind man? I would feel proud to be at his side and would show him the respect that I would expect from him. I might even fall in love with him!


Anytime a manhas to re-think whether to be kind (nice), then he also should alsore-think if he was naturally kind in the first place or just faking it. No, kind (nice) guys don't finish last. But those who are uncertain of themselves do.
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scorpio,272760 wrote :

The term "Nice guys finish last" is such a musty, old worn-out cliche' - certainly not one I would pull out of somedusty closet and use if I were a man describing myself. Such a banalterm brings to mind a man with only one aspect to his personality, which of course, none of us have. We are all multi-faceted people.I don't know of anyone who behaves in a one-dimensional manner all the time. If I were in a relationship with sucha man, I would think he was not too bright. Someone whobehaves ina nice manner under all circumstances gives the impression of being disingenuous and/or a doormat.


Now, don't get me wrong -kindness is one of the traits Idesire in a man. Yet, he would also be someone who is able to hold his own and stand up for himself when necessary. I would want to see both his kind side and his warrior** side. To me, that's what would make him a winner in my eyes. He wouldpossess all types of qualities, and still be akind person.


And how would a woman like me feel about a kind man? I would feel proud to be at his side and would show him the respect that I would expect from him. I might even fall in love with him!


Anytime a manhas to re-think whether to be kind (nice), then he also shouldre-think if he was naturally kind in the first place, or just faking it. No, kind (nice) guys don't finish last. But those who are uncertain of themselves do.
Ooops, I forgot to mention my definition of a "warrior." They are really kind people who are that way until they are forced to have to kick "bigtime butt" - and when they must, they step right up to the plate.That's what I'm talkin' 'bout.


p.s. You may substitute "assertive" for warrior.[img]library/editor/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-cool.gif[/img]
 
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cdr4,272405 wrote :

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Nice guys generally are too afraid to reachout and get what you want b/c of the cycle of fear of rejection. In the meantime you force us nice girls to date losers or not date at alluntil you wake up and do something about it. Instead of feeling sorry for yourself just go for what you want, statistically your more likely to get it that way.


Why can't nice girls reach out and get what they want?
Then they are viewed as easy or desperate or clingy and chase away the good guys.
 
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Actually they have proven that scientifically nice guys finish first.
 
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japaneseblueeyes,275185 wrote :

Actually they have proven that scientifically nice guys finish first.
...yes, but there is a huge debate among scientists over whether the causes of this are genetic or environmental. lol


LMAO...you are too funny JBE! [img]library/editor/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-laughing.gif[/img]


Oh...and one more thing....do you really want a guy who finishes first??? [img]library/editor/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-tongue-out.gif[/img]
 
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I ask ALL of you this. Does being a nice person really have anything to do with being first or last? Being a good person has NOTHING to do with finishing first or last. Being a good person means you do something good and not ask for anything in return.


Off topic, I put up a looooong post 3 nights ago to reply to this to kinda finalize this topic but for some reason its not showing up.
 
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Ok so I think my post is waaaay too long thats why its not showing up so I'll post it in bits and hopefully it will work.


Okay, I had a bit of fun reading this post. its mildly entertaining. Some people made good arguments and there are those few who are complete retards. I'm gonna tell you guys what I think, along with bits and pieces some people said here that I agree with and summarize it all together for ya. For the person who originally posted this and for anyone else reading this.


WARNING: I'll give it to you raw so for those who are literary weak of heart, you've been warned. Yes vulgar words are gonna be used. =O oh noes!


First keep this quote in mind while reading this. "Humans are naturally selfish." I'm not going to explain that cuz I can write a book about it. Just keep it in mind the whole time you're reading this.


Let me begin by saying, nice guys DO NOT finish last. Thats a myth. Being a good person has nothing to do with finishing first or last.


You shouldnt complain. If you're truly a "nice guy" as you say? You shouldnt be complaining. Being a good person and doing nice things for other people doesnt mean you should expect something in return. But thats okay, we are but humans after all.


It's also not about "growing some balls." Thats another misconception. It's about growing some brains and not letting your judgement clouded by your emotions.
 
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What the hell does "Your comment has been submitted and is being moderated." mean?! I cant post anything here! The post I just made is only a small fraction of my whole comment.
 
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jaysleepy,275533 wrote :

What the hell does "Your comment has been submitted and is being moderated." mean?! I cant post anything here! The post I just made is only a small fraction of my whole comment.
It means you made a comment that does not fit in their little manual like "The".[img]library/editor/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-innocent.gif[/img]
 
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