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The phrase that my boyfriend says that really bothers me is his response to my daily question when he returns from work, "How was your day sweetie", I say? To which he always replys, "loooooong". That's it that is all he says, long, no details, no interesting interactions, nothing. Surely something went on during his day that he could elaborate on. I come home and I have an overload of information to tell him and I never understand why he has nothing?
Change your question to "I know you had a long day baby but tell me what you did today?"
I agree with changing the question. If that don't work, be direct. Ask him why he don't talk about his long days and REALLY LISTEN to what he has to say about it. You may find the key to unlock the communication door there.
- March 2nd, 2008, 10:38 am
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I have a 17 year old son who is the most important person in my life. Recently I started seeing a man and explained to him before we ever went on our first date that I had a son in high schoolin casedating someone with children is something he did not want to get involved with since he had no children of his own. He said that my son was not going to be a problem for him. Several months later, he was still very reluctent to spend time with my son and me together so I initiated a discussion on this situation. The question that he asked me not only shocked me but told me our relationship had come to a screeching halt. It was: ARE YOU AND YOUR SON A PACKAGE DEAL"!!!! Never a good idea for someone to ask a person with children this question because if they are a good parent it will probably end your relationship!!!
- March 2nd, 2008, 10:57 am
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After 6 months of dating I got the "I just don't know you that well.". Then asking me why I haven't introduced him to my parents. rofl.

What he really meant was "Your not fitting into this box of mine and you are different then what i want you to be".

*SIGH*
- March 2nd, 2008, 12:24 pm
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Micki wrote :
Nothing more irritating than when you make a statement and your significant other responds with "Whatever" followed with a shoulder shrug or eye roll. Usually it means that you've said something they don't want to hear or they know your right and they're wrong. Instead of addressingtheissue,replying with "whatever" is childish and annoying. This response doesn't help any situation and it tells me that they just don't want to talk about a particular subject in hopes it will just go away, which we all know it doesn't.
"Whatever", in my experience, is a response to either an illogical demand or is a response to a demand that is designed to change whomever the demand is pointed at! I just went through a marriage and soon divorce due to a partner that had unreasonable demands of me! We spent 6 months of our 8 month marriage in counseling due to their "Problem." I attended counseling with my partner to find out what their problem was. Come to find out the problem was ME! They wanted counseling, not to fix us, but to fix ME. So that I would do just as they instructed! My partner was all googlie eyed for me during our courtship and engagement and we had a beautiful wedding last May. Shortly after the honeymoon (in Sanibel) my partner began telling me what I needed to do and the faults that I had. My response to this abuse was "Whatever!" My attitude coming in was not to change my partner but to accept them, faults and all! Come to find out, after months of counseling, my partner did not know how to comprimise or share and their attempt at controlling my every action was their way of trying to get me to get along with them. All this while stonewalling me at my attempts to express myself. Eventually they burned out and decided we were not compatible. As we were splitting I finally got them to talk from the heart (something they hadn't done in months) and the response to my question of "Why did we do this then?" was "You caught me in a weak moment and I decided to marry you!" The whole time we lived together it was one abuse after another and my response of "Whatever" was an attempt to defuse the situation. Yes, "Whatever" is frustrating, but from my perspective, it is your partner's attempt at getting heard! Apparently you and your partner have a communication problem and he feels he is not getting heard sufficiently! And again I am only getting half the story! There is always 3 sides to every story my side, your side and somewhere in between lies the TRUTH! Give it some thought and maybe your communication will improve! Good Luck! Beatendown in Indianapolis
- March 2nd, 2008, 03:52 pm
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I am going through a divorce right now and I just wanted to comment on a personal experience of something you should never say, but in my case unless you mean it. When husband and I first started dating I would remind him to do things or talk with him about stuff and I thought that he really would be listening to me until at the end of the problem he would always say " I'll take care of it!" Wow, how nice of him right? I thought so too, but the real truth is that he wouldn't and I don't think people should be careful uttering those words to the person they claim they love, after all actions speak louder than words... Well as we grew together over the years I decided to just accept his forgetullness and write-it-off as if it were a character defect (I mean we all have them) So it worked for a little bit but when our lives, careers and a baby was put into the mix, I couldn't just pass it off anymore. See I could care less if he remembered what shirt I wore on our first date or my favorite color (after all I do switch all the time). No I just wanted him to not forget what it was I needed that day or sometimes the next, but he never did and sadly didn't try. So today I am taking care of it all, everything including our jules and myself, which is what I prefer rather than cringe when I was forgotten time and time again. I think that its very rare that there are people in this world that actually do remember and care. Thats why it is so important to have that best friend quality in the person I will love today. I realized that I didn't have to settle, after all I never had it anyway. I just am happy for the awareness of my self-love and knowing what I do deserve in this life. Oh and to sum it all up, of course when we were talking about seperation, he says " Don't worry, I'll take care of it." Yeah, okay thanx a lot for not caring because since thats out of the way I can actually focus on what I want! The moral of my sharing is this... If you are not going to truly take another persons problems and difficulties to heart and help them through the storms, why even say you will? Get out of the way and let the sky clear up itself and eventually the sun will shine through, it has for me...
- March 2nd, 2008, 05:02 pm
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nicole5 wrote :
The phrase that my boyfriend says that really bothers me is his response to my daily question when he returns from work, "How was your day sweetie", I say? To which he always replys, "loooooong". That's it that is all he says, long, no details, no interesting interactions, nothing. Surely something went on during his day that he could elaborate on. I come home and I have an overload of information to tell him and I never understand why he has nothing?
He's a guy nicole5, he really has nothing more to elaborate. It was either a long day, or an easy day. He is not a woman who gets all emotional about work. Leaving his response very short is his way of not talking about work at home, guys generally don't like doing that. Especially when they have a job they don't like. We don't complain about the BS social situations that happen at work. And quite honestly the only reason he cares to listen to your long diatribe about your day is because he loves you, anyone else he'd probably say, "Yeah, that's nice." As he walks away. Count yourself lucky.



And as for relationship killers, the phrase "I don't care." is killer. Doesn't really matter what they're talking about, if it's something they say to anything you're interested in because they don't want to have the conversation, or if it's about your day, or really just anything you have to say, if they respond "I don't care." the relationship is over.
- March 2nd, 2008, 09:38 pm
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Gr8Guyn2008 wrote :
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The problem I am having on dating right now.... I am over weight. Not really large but not healthy either. Now when I cruse the profiles, I look at the guys face pic and see if there is chemistry with the face. Then if there is I move on to the read the profile. With every typo I lose interest. Our profile is our foot in the door and should be presented some what well. At least 50% of the profiles I read are ironic. These guys are not physically fit but want women that are. Now ya, I would not mind a six pack on my man, but to require it is obserd! I would rather have a man that is overweight and treats me well that I click with, than a man that I know will leave me if I am skinny when I meet him and that will leave me if I gain weight. Talk about presure. With a skinny woman, there is a lot more temptation coming her way. So you had better have those six pack abs to keep that woman. Or else wise up and not be so judgemental and loosen up you standards or get in shape yourself. So the moral to this story is: If you can't spell and don't have a six pack good luck.
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If typos are a deal breaker for you, you should check your own writing first. Check your comment there are at least two misspellings in it.

As for your comments about physical fitness, size, etc. the girls are the same way. They (you) want atheletic and toned, abs, GQ looks and it does not matter how tall you are if the guy is not six feet it is no go on getting a date.
There were actually 7 misspellings in her post...

I do agree with her that paunchy old men are looking for fit young women, for the most part. I think older women are more forgiving about weight on men but are picky on the height...but at least we aren't looking for men who could be our children. I, for one, have never been attracted to very handsome men because they seem to be too full of themselves. Just looking for one kind, loving, ordinary looking man who is capable of a commitment and is not an addict or a pervert. Is that too much to ask?
- March 3rd, 2008, 02:42 am
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nicole5 wrote: The phrase that my boyfriend says that really bothers me is his response to my daily question when he returns from work, "How was your day sweetie", I say? To which he always replys, "loooooong". That's it that is all he says, long, no details, no interesting interactions, nothing. Surely something went on during his day that he could elaborate on. I come home and I have an overload of information to tell him and I never understand why he has nothing?

I'd like to give my two cents about this. Simply that I completely agree with the vast majority of men that have responded to the fact that men simply need time to unwind and a bit of space, and god bless you women that realize this. Seriously, I admit I'm not a very verbal man, and to be frank I'd love to hear about how your day went, etc., but I cannot stress this enough, that you should give time for the person to unwind. You have NO idea what went on in their day. They could have had a bad report, a bad meeting, horrible commute, etc. and a lot of the time I'd rather not talk about it to blow up needlessly on someone I care about and start a pointless fight, argument, etc. Let us gather ourselves for a moment, sit down, shower, have a change of clothes, do whatever habitual stress reliever that we need to do to get accustom to the new environment change.

As for the concept of communication, its very simple as to why women and men have different communicaton needs. For women, who were not generally involved in the hunting culture, would need to strengthen social bonds to help rear children, establish networks for help and assistance in times of need, etc. So its valuable for women to learn about body language, communication, and socialization, simply because it was an intergral part of their survival. As stereotypical as this sounds, it makes a lot of sense. It also shows the huge discrepancy in terms of abilities in picking up non-verbal cues, which females, I'm sorry guys but its true, have such a huge, huge advantage over. As for men, the need for constant or continuous communication wasn't needed, as it would generally hinder stalking down prey, game, etc. If the animal that you were trying to kill heard you coming, it wasn't generally a successful hunt. Which is one of the reasons as to why men go to the crux of the matter quickly to stop unnecessary communication, as well as seek communication as a method of problem solving and acquistion of germane information. It also explains why men generally are less inclined to talk about things that are irrelevant to what they deem is necessary in that situation. The concept of the hunt overlaps into various other aspects of the male, such as spacial cognition, mathematics, etc. which men's minds are generally better geared for because they were more essential for their livelihood and welfare, much like how typically women are more skilled in terms of linguistics and communication.

So, to get to the bottom of this, men when they come home, aren't inclined to talk about their day because they don't feel that it is absolutely relevant at the moment. As the woman feels it is necessary, more or less because her social evolution has chosen genes that produce such a result. So to get over this hurdle, simply tell your other that you feel its important to you and your relationship, and then give him some space to chill. When he's aware that it is important, and its needed, he'll come around if he's not a complete idiot or jerk.
I don't understand why everyone is saying that MEN are different than women and need their space after work. I am a woman and my husband used to tee me off every night asking me about work...it made me remember all the bad things that I was trying to forget...I just wanted him to stop asking so that at least the end of my day would be pleasant!

And then other people suggesting she reword the question...JUST DON'T ASK ABOUT WORK. PERIOD. He clearly has a rough time at work and wants to distance himself. Come up with a different subject to talk about that won't stir up his frustrations he's trying to leave behind.

It also seems that if he always answers it the same way, she must know before she asks that's going to be the case and she's almost baiting him...or creating a situation where she can feel justified by being upset with him or superior because she has so much to say...he might be thinking "if I don't say anything about work, maybe she will stop boring me with al her stories about all those people that I don't even know!"
- March 3rd, 2008, 03:05 am
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Whenever I'm having a heated discussion or fight with a guy I'm involved with, there's one phrase that ALWAYS crushes me. If we're in the middle of discussing something and he suddenly says, "I'm done."

Now, I understand the need to take a break from a fight if you feel you're just getting too worked up. Taking some time to cool down is a good idea. But phrasing it like that is really cruel because my first instinct, whenhe sayshe's "done"is that he's done with us. Meaning he wants to break up. Even if he makes it clear in the next instant that he only wants a few minutes, the psychological damage is done. I feel totally blindsided. Like, we were just having a fight- it's not the end of the world, where did that come from? And the emotional reaction I have, the sudden fear and abandonment, lasts for a while. I find I have trouble responding positively when he's ready to restart dialogue. I guess some part of me harbors a bitterness at being made to feel that way, even for an instant.

Also, I guess I think that somehow he probably knew how it sounded and said it anyway. Sort of a passive agressive manipulative attack? Without actually having to attack? Almost like the "then I guess we shouldn't be dating" phrase. ::shrugs:: I don't know. I just recommend steering clear of this phrase during a fight.
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2. Title: You Just Don't Understand: Men and Women in Conversation Author: Deborah Tannen, Ph.D., Professor of Lingustics at Georgetown Univ. Gist: Released in paperback in approximately 1990, this book launched her successful series on the differing communication styles, and thereby relating styles, of men and women, based upon information derived from her socio-linguistic studies of conversational devices used by men and women as based and reinforced culturally by our socialization. Rife with anecdotes, the slim volume is an easy and fascinating read, is the perfect companion to any book on the Myers Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI), and, most importantly, it does not require that you don a loincloth and accept behavior associated with cavemen.
Hello there, I just have to say that I have read this book and it is fantastic. I am a osychology major at the Univestity of Northern Colorado, and after taking the Psychology of Women, which had some anecdotes from Deborah Tannen's book, I just HAD to read the whole thing, I gotta say, it really opens your eyes up to a whole new (and successful) way of communicating with men, and understanding how to talk to men. You can also learn how to read body language and so many other things from this book. Sydney is right - read it! And read the others, too.... I am SURE they will be as helpful as the other book! Good luck, all!
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