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I'm getting a bit anxious and definitely pissed off at the fact that after 4 years in this relationship, my boyfriend wants to wait yet ANOTHER year! Okay, so this all started with information posted in a previous thread, "Mom & Dad" but has gotten way out of hand!

After we discussed getting married this year, my boyfriend wants to wait another year (I guess to spite his parents). So when I brought up the issue because, yes, it bothers me, he snapped and asked "what's 1 more year?" Okay, so another year and still no ring (not that I really care for a ring)!

Now, I know I'm going to sound "unreasonable" but I don't want to stay with someone and be referred to as a "wifey" or "live in girlfriend" which is the situation in which I've put myself in hoping it would only be temporary. His response to this is what if I'm his "live in fiance"... Seriously?

Although I did things a little differently, I do believe in the value of marriage. I don't want to just life with someone, I want to know that they would be willing to make a "sacrifice" as I have done for him.

I don't think I want to continue waiting. Since I'm moving to Virginia on active duty for 3 years next month, I think I'm going to use this time for myself. I think I've been "wifey" for too long. If I'm not good enough to drop that "y", he's not good enough to continue waiting around.

I know some or all part of this is going to bother a lot of people, including those who don't believe marriage is important or necessary. To those people, just don't respond! And yes, I'm being unreasonable to some extent but in a situation like this, do you put your values or your love first?
 
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I'm getting a bit anxious and definitely pissed off at the fact that after 4 years in this relationship, my boyfriend wants to wait yet ANOTHER year! Okay, so this all started with information posted in a previous thread, "Mom & Dad" but has gotten way out of hand!

After we discussed getting married this year, my boyfriend wants to wait another year (I guess to spite his parents). So when I brought up the issue because, yes, it bothers me, he snapped and asked "what's 1 more year?" Okay, so another year and still no ring (not that I really care for a ring)!

Now, I know I'm going to sound "unreasonable" but I don't want to stay with someone and be referred to as a "wifey" or "live in girlfriend" which is the situation in which I've put myself in hoping it would only be temporary. His response to this is what if I'm his "live in fiance"... Seriously?

Although I did things a little differently, I do believe in the value of marriage. I don't want to just life with someone, I want to know that they would be willing to make a "sacrifice" as I have done for him.

I don't think I want to continue waiting. Since I'm moving to Virginia on active duty for 3 years next month, I think I'm going to use this time for myself. I think I've been "wifey" for too long. If I'm not good enough to drop that "y", he's not good enough to continue waiting around.

I know some or all part of this is going to bother a lot of people, including those who don't believe marriage is important or necessary. To those people, just don't respond! And yes, I'm being unreasonable to some extent but in a situation like this, do you put your values or your love first?
Now your response to the Mom and Dad thread makes more sense...It's not really about them...it's about your feelings towards your guy and being on completely different wave lengths in reference to this issue...That's why this was one of my first questions on whether it was a mutual choice to not be getting married after 4 years together...or if you both have decided not to do this for financial reasons...

When you are guessing that it's to 'spite his parents'...Is this something that you know for sure? And why?

I would really be sitting down and having a long, hard discussion about what are his true reasons for not wanting to get married. Without blame, without criticism, and as hard as it is to hear...I would be asking him to be completely honest with you.

Now...I know many other people may disagree...and they need to do what is right for them...but this is why I have never lived with a man. I happen to think that once you are living like man and wife....there really isn't anything special about getting married...That there isn't any need...especially for the guy...to do this as you are already spending each night together, have a house together, blending your lives...etc.

I also don't believe in this because I refuse to mesh my finances with someone whom I am not married to.

You have to really make some hard decisions here..I think your 3 months apart is a good time for you to assess your own life and whether this is working for you...

I do caution...that when you speak to him about this...as well as during your absence...that you absolutely stress to him that you do NOT want him to decide to get married 'just for you'....It has to come 100% from him and wanting this as well or it will never work...

I happen to think that one year....two years maximum...is plenty of time to know whether you want to marry someone or not. And if they haven't decided then...it's not likely to be something they really want in the future...

Yes...there are always 'those' stories where someone marries after 5, 6, 7 years....but I'm just not one of those that would be waiting around that long for someone to figure this out.....

This is going to be a very hard decision and conversation....but it's absolutely necessary because if you are truly unhappy....this is going to seep through into your entire relationship as resentment has already been building...

I do wish you luck..
 
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Have no clue...but my long post (quoting yours) is in mod land..
 
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Lol! Thanks Ingy. Well, the "spite his parents" comment was just me venting. I don't know if that's really the case. It was just that the parent incident happened just a couple of weeks ago. Other than that, we had decided on April of this year. I later told him I preferred August and he was fine with it.

I tried having a conversation with him last night and he gets so frustrated and angry just talking about it that it kind of turned me off from the idea of marrying him for a while. But I don't want to be a live in girlfriend or a "wifey". I do believe I deserve someone who shares the same views on marriage as me, legal, financial, spiritual, physical, emotional.

As I'm not a materialistic person, I'm not all that crazy about spending thousands on a ring (i don't wear jewelry) my skin reacts to EVERYTHING! I have budgeted a certain amount for an intimate wedding (half saved up already). I'm agreeing to the fairytale wedding because in his defense, I've already been married. So his excuses were those, when I showed his the money I had saved up, he came up with I don't have enough for the ring??? Why would I want a ring that covers 5 mortgage payments in a jewelry box if I can't wear it? Since he have me excuses without merit, I told him I don't want to get married on an odd number year so he could see how dumb it was all sounding.

And Ingy, I think you misread my post, it's not 3 months, but 3 years. I'll be close enough that I can come home every weekend though. Plus the boys are staying in New Jersey because of school.

I really think I'm going to take some time to myself. If we can't seem to get around this (which is a pretty big deal) how would every other fight go? Giving up the goodies definitely didn't work in my favor :-) lol!
 
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Lol! Thanks Ingy. Well, the "spite his parents" comment was just me venting. I don't know if that's really the case. It was just that the parent incident happened just a couple of weeks ago. Other than that, we had decided on April of this year. I later told him I preferred August and he was fine with it.

I tried having a conversation with him last night and he gets so frustrated and angry just talking about it that it kind of turned me off from the idea of marrying him for a while. But I don't want to be a live in girlfriend or a "wifey". I do believe I deserve someone who shares the same views on marriage as me, legal, financial, spiritual, physical, emotional.

As I'm not a materialistic person, I'm not all that crazy about spending thousands on a ring (i don't wear jewelry) my skin reacts to EVERYTHING! I have budgeted a certain amount for an intimate wedding (half saved up already). I'm agreeing to the fairytale wedding because in his defense, I've already been married. So his excuses were those, when I showed his the money I had saved up, he came up with I don't have enough for the ring??? Why would I want a ring that covers 5 mortgage payments in a jewelry box if I can't wear it? Since he have me excuses without merit, I told him I don't want to get married on an odd number year so he could see how dumb it was all sounding.

And Ingy, I think you misread my post, it's not 3 months, but 3 years. I'll be close enough that I can come home every weekend though. Plus the boys are staying in New Jersey because of school.

I really think I'm going to take some time to myself. If we can't seem to get around this (which is a pretty big deal) how would every other fight go? Giving up the goodies definitely didn't work in my favor :-) lol!
Oops...sorry for misreading the 3 years part...That does make a big difference...

May I ask how you are approaching the conversation when you all talk about marriage? Try to be honest...are you coming to him in a calm, relaxed, and open way that you are asking to really 'hear' his thoughts and reasoning why he keeps postponing?

As well as trying to speak with him when he is relaxed, calm, and ready to talk about this as well? This all makes a huge difference on how the conversation will go.

I think you both deserve to live the lives that you want and neither is right/wrong...It's just going to come down to whether he is truly honest with himself and you on whether he truly wants to get married or not.

Again..I do wish you luck...
 
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I think that's what it is. He probably didn't think we were going to make it this long and now he's having an OMG moment. Honestly, I don't say much when talking to him about it, last night at the tax office our friend, an accountant, said, "well Damek, she's leaving, you guys have to hurry up and tie the knot before she hits the road" it was a joke and we all laughed but he looked scared. Lol! So on the way down to Virginia, he had a mission and I had to look for apartments, I said "i don't know what the big deal is, I'm coming back on weekends, why can't these people just wait until August?" When he asked for what, I knew it was going to happen. I told him, "our wedding" and we tells me that with "everything"that's happened lately, he'd like to wait until August of NEXT year! Oh hell no! I didn't get an attitude or anything but in my mind I had pushed him out the car while it was moving on I95.. When I asked him his reasons, he gave me the excuses below.

Everyone I tell him I don't want to waste my time in a relationship where I'd be asked to compromise my values and outlook on life, he responds with, "so now you're wasting your time with me? Fine!" He knows what I mean but everytime, it comes up "wasting" whether it was meant for him or not, it's an issue.

I news a drink. It's after 12 so it's socially acceptable. Lol!
 
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I think that's what it is. He probably didn't think we were going to make it this long and now he's having an OMG moment. Honestly, I don't say much when talking to him about it, last night at the tax office our friend, an accountant, said, "well Damek, she's leaving, you guys have to hurry up and tie the knot before she hits the road" it was a joke and we all laughed but he looked scared. Lol! So on the way down to Virginia, he had a mission and I had to look for apartments, I said "i don't know what the big deal is, I'm coming back on weekends, why can't these people just wait until August?" When he asked for what, I knew it was going to happen. I told him, "our wedding" and we tells me that with "everything"that's happened lately, he'd like to wait until August of NEXT year! Oh hell no! I didn't get an attitude or anything but in my mind I had pushed him out the car while it was moving on I95.. When I asked him his reasons, he gave me the excuses below.

Everyone I tell him I don't want to waste my time in a relationship where I'd be asked to compromise my values and outlook on life, he responds with, "so now you're wasting your time with me? Fine!" He knows what I mean but everytime, it comes up "wasting" whether it was meant for him or not, it's an issue.

I news a drink. It's after 12 so it's socially acceptable. Lol!
Did you guys have a date set and everything? Cause the way to postpone a wedding is not to say, when I bring it up, 'yeah, about that, i'm trying to wait another year'!

I don't blame you for being unhappy with this marriage timeline. The thing that would concern me most is the lack of concern for your feelings- this is a big deal for you so it needs to be treated less casually and with more respect.

But your comment about him not thinking you would make it this long...are you guys both on the same page about the stability of your relationship? What is holding him back? (As a grown man, i hope it's not just to spite his parents).
 
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FairOne, our relationship is otherwise great, for the most part but I'm not willing to overlook something that is so important to me. We have a home, 2 fantastic careers (although mine took a while to take off considering one of us had to take care of the kids), we are stable.. I don't know what happened. I knew we were on the same page up until recently for whatever reason. I am very unhappy with the timeline but when I bring up the fact that I don't want my beliefs on the back burner he takes everything I say as an ultimatum.

I really don't know another way to help him out. I've done my part and expected him to do his (considering I'm a cheap date, allergic to metals and wanting an intimate ceremony lol). What guarantee will I get that if I wait for him another year, he's not going to try and push it back again? I don't do well with uncertainty so that's a chance I'm not willing to take.
 
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And I also hope that that was just a joke because I would not want to come into a family of crazies, no matter how much I loved them. Lol!
 
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I don't blame you for being upset, Cristie. I would just want to know why does he think he needs another year. Why is he saying it's about not having enough money for a ring yet he's willing to bump you up to fiance status? Doesn't being a fiance involve some sort of ring?

I get that you're not all about the money spent on a ring and it's great that you have eased up that pressure on him by telling him, so why does he think he still needs a year to save up for a ring?

I think for some guys, when you are living together as a family, he's already getting what he would from a marriage. It's not uncommon to see some people I know who have children together not get married until 6-7 years after. He's getting the milk for free, so why buy the cow example (not that I am calling you a cow!)?! He's become comfortable with how things are now. In his mind, he might be thinking "why change us?"

You are in a tough spot because you say the relationship is really good otherwise, but it sucks that he knows your values are important to you yet he is not willing to make that marriage commitment. I don't like giving a person an ultimatum but at some point, you have to stand up for what it is you want. I think you've been extremely patient with him and done more than your share to save money towards a wedding. That should show him that this is important enough for you to be diligent to save like that.
 
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