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kreg85 is offline kreg85 Post #1  November 30,2011, 9:39am
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Ok - have posted stuff before hand on this site and have been able to get some sound advice and statements from others that have caused me to look deeply at myself and change - so here I am again...

Situation - I met gal about 3 or 4 months ago and everything has been beyond fantastic. We both thoroughly enjoy each other's company and have a blast around each other. It has become fairly serious between us but an ugly head keeps poping up nad need no BS advice as to handle it...

Ex's boyfriend - who did multiple nasty things to her, including going off to a tournement while she was hospitilized for major surgery, keeps coming back into her life. He did a ton of crappy things to her - and even tho its awkward for me, I listen to her when she vents about it from time to time. She lost a close family member recently and he called to give condolences. I have no problem with that - but since then (about 2 weeks ago) they have talked on the phone a few timesa and texted a few times. I am of the opinion that although the call for condolences was appropriate, the other calls/texts aren't. She keeps telling me how he hurt her and how she wants to heal - I suggested for her to stop talking to him as he is just opening old wounds. I told her that I am uncomfortable that they are starting to talk text again. She tells me that its so they can talk over issues that they had while they were together (3 years). They broke up and made up various times and haven't been together for about 5 months before I met her. Am I wrong/out of line to ask her to stop talking to him? He opens up wounds that are healing... I told her that its my impression that he is trying to get her back - proof given in that he asked her if she would take him back if he "hypothetically" asked her to. She claims she said "no". Anyways I asked her again to move forward vs backwards and told her the only way to heal is to cease contact with him - she said she wasn't sure that she wanted/can... Am I out of line? I want to be with her as she has marriage potential (down the line of course) but I am not going to stand by and let some old flame try to rekindle their romance... I don't want to be hurt and wondering if its time to bail - not because I want to but because I am seeing red flags in her talking to him and seemingly not care about my concerns raised by them talking... Hope this made sense...
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Yeah, it makes sense. He wants her back. She needs to demonstrate that it's not going to happen. If she can't then it's time for you to move on.
 
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She wants him back, too.

Sorry guy, her on-again-off-again romance is going to be back on very soon if it isn't already. I'm so sorry that she's stringing you along like this, she doesn't seem like a very forthright person.
 
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tweet37 wrote :
Yeah, it makes sense. He wants her back. She needs to demonstrate that it's not going to happen. If she can't then it's time for you to move on.
Agree.

My two recent exes have contacted me every three to six months to try to get back together initially in the guise of friendship and then a full blown chase. The more she talks to him the more old feelings will resurface. If she is not completely strong enough to remember why they broke up, she may go back to him. Once I break up with someone, it's done for me and I never want to go back because before I call it quits I have usually exhausted all possibilities of making the relationship work. She may not have done the same.
 
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"she said she wasn't sure that she wanted/can..."

I am afraid this is one of those co-dependent on again/off again relationships that is unhealthy for both parties, but will go on for years and years. It's a shame, because a guy like you should be reason enough for her to turn her choices around and not fall back into the same old trap.
But I think that is what she is going to do. I am not normally a fan of ulitmatums, but this is one time I will recommend a 'me or him' talk. If she takes offense, and wants to play both ends, you will have your answer. Sorry.
 
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kreg85 wrote :
Ex's boyfriend - who did multiple nasty things to her, including going off to a tournement while she was hospitilized for major surgery, keeps coming back into her life. He did a ton of crappy things to her - and even tho its awkward for me, I listen to her when she vents about it from time to time. She lost a close family member recently and he called to give condolences. I have no problem with that - but since then (about 2 weeks ago) they have talked on the phone a few timesa and texted a few times. I am of the opinion that although the call for condolences was appropriate, the other calls/texts aren't. She keeps telling me how he hurt her and how she wants to heal - I suggested for her to stop talking to him as he is just opening old wounds. I told her that I am uncomfortable that they are starting to talk text again. She tells me that its so they can talk over issues that they had while they were together (3 years). They broke up and made up various times and haven't been together for about 5 months before I met her. Am I wrong/out of line to ask her to stop talking to him? He opens up wounds that are healing... I told her that its my impression that he is trying to get her back - proof given in that he asked her if she would take him back if he "hypothetically" asked her to. She claims she said "no". Anyways I asked her again to move forward vs backwards and told her the only way to heal is to cease contact with him - she said she wasn't sure that she wanted/can... Am I out of line? I want to be with her as she has marriage potential (down the line of course) but I am not going to stand by and let some old flame try to rekindle their romance... I don't want to be hurt and wondering if its time to bail - not because I want to but because I am seeing red flags in her talking to him and seemingly not care about my concerns raised by them talking... Hope this made sense...
Re-read the parts in bold. She is still very much stuck on him. Right now, you are just the nice guy to lean on while she sorts out her life and either returns to him or finally moves on. At the moment, you really don't even have a relationship with her because she is still fully stuck in her own drama with the other guy. Whether you want to hang around longer and wait and see how this plays out or want to move on is really your call.
 
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So its starting to be a consensus as to move on... We talked on the phone a bit since I posted a lil while ago, and I slipped out the "him or me" line - kicked myself as soon as it came out - and her response was she needed to think about it... not good in my opinion...
 
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Re-read the parts in bold. She is still very much stuck on him. Right now, you are just the nice guy to lean on while she sorts out her life and either returns to him or finally moves on. At the moment, you really don't even have a relationship with her because she is still fully stuck in her own drama with the other guy. Whether you want to hang around longer and wait and see how this plays out or want to move on is really your call.

DancingFool - yeah, I reread it a bunch of times before posting it and I realized before posting EXACTLY what I was saying (hope that doesn't come off wrong - not intended to) - I completely agree with your view - guess just wanted to have others confirm what I already knew...
 
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Ok - have posted stuff before hand on this site and have been able to get some sound advice and statements from others that have caused me to look deeply at myself and change - so here I am again...

Situation - I met gal about 3 or 4 months ago and everything has been beyond fantastic. We both thoroughly enjoy each other's company and have a blast around each other. It has become fairly serious between us but an ugly head keeps poping up nad need no BS advice as to handle it...

Ex's boyfriend - who did multiple nasty things to her, including going off to a tournement while she was hospitilized for major surgery, keeps coming back into her life. He did a ton of crappy things to her - and even tho its awkward for me, I listen to her when she vents about it from time to time. She lost a close family member recently and he called to give condolences. I have no problem with that - but since then (about 2 weeks ago) they have talked on the phone a few timesa and texted a few times. I am of the opinion that although the call for condolences was appropriate, the other calls/texts aren't. She keeps telling me how he hurt her and how she wants to heal - I suggested for her to stop talking to him as he is just opening old wounds. I told her that I am uncomfortable that they are starting to talk text again. She tells me that its so they can talk over issues that they had while they were together (3 years). They broke up and made up various times and haven't been together for about 5 months before I met her. Am I wrong/out of line to ask her to stop talking to him? He opens up wounds that are healing... I told her that its my impression that he is trying to get her back - proof given in that he asked her if she would take him back if he "hypothetically" asked her to. She claims she said "no". Anyways I asked her again to move forward vs backwards and told her the only way to heal is to cease contact with him - she said she wasn't sure that she wanted/can... Am I out of line? I want to be with her as she has marriage potential (down the line of course) but I am not going to stand by and let some old flame try to rekindle their romance... I don't want to be hurt and wondering if its time to bail - not because I want to but because I am seeing red flags in her talking to him and seemingly not care about my concerns raised by them talking... Hope this made sense...
Actually another red flag that I see is your want/need to 'control' her and this situation.

Which guess what....you can't....

You can't make her want to be with you and not choose this guy.

Demanding that she not speak with him won't solve anything.

You already made the choice of dating someone who was only a few months out of a relationship that had a lot of ups/downs...

As well as you say you have listened from 'time to time' about her venting about this guy. That was a red flag from the start that she wasn't over him yet. But it was your choice to keep dating her.

It's interesting that you say you've been dating for 'about' 3 or 4 months....What happened during that first month that you are unsure of whether you were dating or not? How often do you all actually see one another now per week?

If I was in your situation...I would be backing off and giving her space to figure things out. She will either want to get back together with him or want to move forward with someone new.

But that needs to be her choice.

It may also just be that she doesn't want to be with him again, but doesn't see you as someone she wants to keep dating either as she may see you more of a 'friend' and a rebound to help her move on.
 
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So its starting to be a consensus as to move on... We talked on the phone a bit since I posted a lil while ago, and I slipped out the "him or me" line - kicked myself as soon as it came out - and her response was she needed to think about it... not good in my opinion...
You deserve someone for whom the answer is clearly 'you, of course'.
 
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