Don't ever presume you have any idea of what I have done / been exposed to. or that your small firehouse family sample size is representative of society. (Snip from Olneyjeeps)...
Ahh..ok..so your life experiences are somehow 'more important' or 'more correct' than mine? LOL...Quite the ego...
I have absolute reason to think/know that you have not been in the Fire Dept. for 10 years unless you say otherwise...So that is something you can't claim to understand.
I said that is ONE of my examples...I am 43 and have many life experiences that I use to form the opinions that are MINE...I have not spoken for anyone else on this board or said that all men or all women do xyz...
Unlike yourself...who claim to speak for 'all men'...Thankfully I have not been matched with one's like yourself as we just wouldn't work...LOL
I think it's time to move on to another thread for me as to allow you to have your disagreements and reasons to pontificate towards others which you seem to be very good at doing
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Ahh..ok..so your life experiences are somehow 'more important' or 'more correct' than mine?
Um, I've been a guy for over 45 years, you?
And yes, with several years advanced studies in psychology, (and experience AS a man), I do think my assessments may be a bit "more correct" than yours.
"Pontificate"
Well isn't that the pot trying to call the kettle black?
" Unless people have been in the FD, military at war, etc" Well aren't we special? It does seem that you are trying to say that (because of your "nothing left unsaid" relations in the FD) you know what men think and that one instance of males having to "bite their tongues" is incredibly rare. Pontificate....
Sorry, until you have walked in the shoes, it does not matter how many pairs you have looked at or how many people you have talked about them, you will NEVER know how it feels.
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Um, I've been a guy for over 45 years, you?
And yes, with several years advanced studies in psychology, I do think my assessments may be a bit "more correct" than yours.
"Pontificate"
Well isn't that the pot trying to call the kettle black
" Unless people have been in the FD, military at war, etc" Well aren't we special. It does seem that you are trying to say that (because of your "nothing left unsaid" relations in the FD) you know what men think and that one instance of males having to "bite their tongues" is incredibly rare. Pontificate....
Sorry, until you have walked in the shoes, it does not matter how many pairs you have looked at or how many people you have talked about them, you will NEVER know how it feels.
My you are a quirky one!...
And that is pretty funny that you think your opinions are better than everyone else on here..or at least just mine
I'll say for the last time...I have always just expressed MY opinion on this...I have never met, dated, or talked with any man who complained about paying for a first date. Never have I said ALL men feel this way. You are the one claiming to know what all men think...this is what is so laughable..
It's one thing to have a bad date here and there...but anyone who runs into the same thing over and over isn't looking at the obvious common denominator.
In regards to the FD comment...you are the one that was saying you knew what the conversation is or isn't like being in the FD so that is why I said unless you have been there...you can't possibly know this. Nothing about being special....
Yes...pontificate...it was the adjective that popped into my mind when reading some of your posts..
It actually just makes me feel very blessed for the men I have dated and known in my life..I'm just not the type that finds whining from a man...about any subject...very sexy...
But thanks for the giggles today...I'll stop the hijacking of the thread on my end...You can have the last word as I know you are looking forward to
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I couldn't possibly care less about offers to pay for a date or lack thereof. Women should go with offers to bake cookies (or buy appropriate alternatives) instead.
My you are a quirky one!...
I prefer as, as Sony put it "special"
And that is pretty funny that you think your opinions are better than everyone else on here..or at least just mine
Never said or meant to infer "better" ("correct" / more logically and statistically correct, maybe)
I'll say for the last time...I have always just expressed MY opinion on this...I have never met, dated, or talked with any man who complained about paying for a first date. And odds are you never will... what I have been saying: is not something a male will do with a woman he knows. Do I really need to go back and find the female "Well at least I got a good meal out of it" / "At least he paid for my tickets" posts? You think that women like that (please tell me you think they do not exist) do not annoy (most) guys? For what it is worth, I cannot remember ever having complained about paying for a first date, maybe used as tool of classification, did not appreciate that they picked the most expensive thing on the menu and ordered several drinks, but not complained.
Is saying that I very much appreciate when she offers to pick up the whole bill "complaining" about having to pay? Is saying that I am quite aware of (and will avoid) women who are looking for a free ride complaining?
Never have I said ALL men feel this way .Just inferred You are the one claiming to know what all men think...this is what is so laughable.. Never said "all", in fact, many times did I say "most", although the implications of reciprocity is a characteristic which psychologically does apply (in varying degrees) to all PEOPLE.
You are the one that was saying you knew what the conversation is or isn't like being in the FD (and my reasons for this are confidential, thank you) so that is why I said unless you have been there...you can't possibly know this. Nothing about being special....
Yes...pontificate...it was the adjective that popped into my mind when reading some of your posts.
It actually just makes me feel very blessed for the men I have dated and (think you have ) known in my life..I'm just not the type that finds whining from a man...about any subject...very sexy...
And I am just not the type that finds whining from ANYONE about anything sexy.
But thanks for the giggles today...I'll stop the hijacking of the thread on my end...You can have the last word as I know you are looking forward to
Not last word, but logic based response.
The thread is about ways to impress a guy, of which I think guys are far more knowledgeable about (what does and why it does) than virtually any woman ever will. Although I acquiesce that there probably is a woman out there that may be smarter than me, and there might be one as intelligent as me , I cannot conceptualize of one that might know more about ways to impress me.... check that (kind of ): Laura did impress me more than I thought I ever could be, but does not count because she (to the best of my knowledge, as she never appeared to know how much she impressed me) did not intend on impressing me by what she did and how she did it (which was largely what impressed me).
It is not about what you mean, or feel, it is about what he perceives (and why he may perceive it that way). You can choose to listen and learn, or choose to pretend you know everything and judge. Pontification over .
"Anyone who claims to know everything about anything is either a fool or a liar
The one with statistical probability studies is more likely to have the correct answer.
The one with the bigger/better gun is almost always right."
OlneyJeeps.
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Funny epiphany: sitting here thinking, I recall many a time that I was in the presence of a group of women (kind of "gossip group), and possibly because of my innocuous behavior (I know it is a stretch, but try hard and imagine), like a fly on the wall I heard them say things about guys (women are allowed to whine?) that I would have NEVER thought they would say in the presence of one. Was almost insulting... they talked like I was not even there / my opinion was inconsequential. Meh.
Completely different setting than firefighters who justifiably admired each other (though several later admitted that they were "irked" that I did not ask them out... oh, wait, one is a firefighter).
I couldn't possibly care less about offers to pay for a date or lack thereof. Women should go with offers to bake cookies (or buy appropriate alternatives) instead.
That is a good idea. Nothing beats home-made (or pseudo-home-made) cookies.
I think the problem is that relationships these days do seem to be deals. I was raised in the South. Southern men or men raised within the culture of the South don't consider the women paying for the meal to be feminine. Men pay for dinner forever. Women may tend to cook dinner for them, but paying is insulting to most gentlemen raised in the South. There are exceptions but overall this is the rule in the South. The rest I can agree with.
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