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I agree! Make it fun. The last relationship I had I too was afraid to say it first so I sang it...kind of. I was singing a song and the line was..."do you call it love, if you don't then what?"


When I got back to the table he looked at me and said, "You can say it you know." I shook my head and said I couldn't say it first. Then he took my face in his hands and said it.


I can hear the "Aaahhhs" all over the country!
- June 8th, 2008, 03:55 pm
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I don't think it's up to the man to say it first. As the other posters suggest, when you feel it is when you should say it so long as you are prepared for the possibility that you may not hear it back right away or at all. No matter who says it first, that person is taking that risk. I personally prefer to say it when I feel it for the sole reason that horrible things happen in life and I would not want either of us to leave the planet without my having said how I feel. But I'm an old broad now, so I'm much more relaxed about not hearing it back than I was when I was younger. When I was younger I think I kinda thought that I love you meant you were going to get married. And that scared the crap out of me so I never wanted to say it at all. Now I say it when I feel it and if he doesn't feel that way well, better to have loved and lost than never loved at all.
- June 8th, 2008, 04:08 pm
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Glider_Pilot wrote :

I'm absolutely in the "tell him if you feel it" camp. Hiding it is just another game.


Here's a tip, though, and an important one:


Make the moment comfortable for him, and don't allow it to put pressure on him to say it back. Maybe he's not quite there yet.


Tell him, but make it light and fun. Don't make it a hugely serious event, where you tell him and then stop and look in his eyes and wait for a response. I know you want to hear it back, but let him decide upon the right time for him to say it, too. If he's not quite there yet, and you turn your "I love you" into something that feels like he's trapped into saying it also, he's likely to back away from your relationship.He has the right to say it on his own terms.


Love is supposed to be fun. Tell him you love him in a fun, light way, and likely he'll be saying it back to you sooner than you might think.
Thank you so much! Those are wise words....make it light. Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I'm not playing any games with him....I'm just chicken!! I can't hold it in much longer. I will wait for the right time and let him know. Thanks everyone and wish me luck!!
- June 8th, 2008, 04:50 pm
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Dear JLee,


I'm going to be in the minority here but I highly recommend you NOT tell him that you love him right now.


Here's why:


1. In the vast scheme of your life, five months really isn't all that long to know a person. Though your relationships seems like it's getting serious, keep in mind that a couple should know each other for minimally a year before marriage, and two years, preferably three,at least if they're in their late teens or early 20's.


2. Refraining from telling him you love him is not playing games; it's choosing to be silent for now on that specific subject.


As Dr. MPDoc68 has said in some threads, "Pace, not chase." My advice is similar, "Don't pursue the guy more than he's pursuing you."


When you tell him you love him, you're getting ahead of him. Let him be the man in the relationship and take the proper lead and respond accordingly (if you so desire). If he tells you he likes you, then respond back in like (if you do that is). Never game play; always be honest. Game playing doesn't mean that you always say everything you know.


A wise lady knows when to hold back a bit and wait for the right time. Five months is too early.


You see, here's how it goes:
  1. Friendship with chemistry across the four areas: Mental, emotional, physical, and spiritual;
  2. Deep Friendship with chemistry;
  3. Love with chemistry;
  4. Marriage with chemistry;
  5. Baby (if couple chooses).


A man should not tell a lady he loves her until he's ready to propose to her as it's unwise otherwise. Say someone told youhe loved you and you dated another two years without any plan but "being in love" and broke up. That's not what love is.


Here's what love is:


"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails." I Corinthians 13: 4 - 8


3. Love goes places; it's not stagnant. By it's very nature, love grows the more it gets to know a person. People in their 80's are often heard to say they love each other more than when they married. Love carries through thick and thin, love is a commitment, a commitment for a lifetime.


When a man tells a girl he loves her, he should be prepared to ask her to marry him - or very shortly thereafter.


4. After a couple declares their love for each other, the man should ask for the ladies' hand in marriage if her parents are still living - always chivalrous and endearing to her folks no matter what their age, and upon her acceptance of his proposal, an engagement period should begin not to exceed a year in time.


5. Sometime during this engagement period, the couple should have really good pre-marital counseling. Oftentimes the pastor does counseling and other places always provide this. Good counseling will include an assessment taken by each person and topics will be discussed in depth such as finances (a big cause of marital break-ups), sex (another cause of marriage disintegration), children and / or stepchildren, blended families, careers, etc.


6. Say you told him you love him now . . . . Then what? That puts him under a sort of obligation to tell you he loves you then or sometime in the near future. If he hasn't come to that conclusion yet for himself, then he's going to feel pressured inside. That's just how it is. He's going to feel uncomfortable and either he will try to force feelings out of politeness or he'll back away as he'll begin to feel sort of caged and ill at ease.


He may even start to avoid you a bit because he might be afraid you'll say it again or have some sort of expectation from him and he won't know what to do.


It's far better just to keep those feelings to yourself. It's not playing games; rather, being prudent and wise.


There'll be plenty of time to tell him how very much you love him after he tells you.


If you're premature in doing it before he does, you do risk him breaking up with you. That's happened to many a girl.


7. So, most definitely "Yes," wait patiently and see what develops. So you wait six more months until he tells you he loves you. That's a very small amount of time in terms of your whole lifetime. After all, you have all your life to be married to this man you love.


You don't mention your age, but say you're 39 and you marry him when you're 41, if you're the same age and live to be 81, you will have been married 40 years. Think about it all in terms of the timeline of your life and what that looks like rather than the narrowness of the moment.


Remember, love is about the other person, not yourself. This is very important to remember. Yes, you're in love and you want to tell him and maybe, the whole world, but now is just not the time.


8. For all you know, he may be waiting for a very special occasion to tell you he loves you and surprise you with a ring - maybe Christmas. Many a girl has become engaged around the holidays! In December, you will have known each other 11 months - still not long in terms of the length of your lives.


9. So, when he tells you he cares for you deeply, tell him the same thing back, but hold off on those three little words, "I love you." You'll be glad you did in the long run.


10. Keep in mind the tortoise wins the race.


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- June 8th, 2008, 04:58 pm
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javajava5 wrote :

Dear JLee,


I'm going to be in the minority here but I highly recommend you NOT tell him that you love him right now.


Here's why:


1. In the vast scheme of your life, five months really isn't all that long to know a person. Though your relationships seems like it's getting serious, keep in mind that a couple should know each other for minimally a year before marriage, and two years, preferably three,at least if they're in their late teens or early 20's.


2. Refraining from telling him you love him is not playing games; it's choosing to be silent for now on that specific subject.


As Dr. MPDoc68 has said in some threads, "Pace, not chase." My advice is similar, "Don't pursue the guy more than he's pursuing you."


When you tell him you love him, you're getting ahead of him. Let him be the man in the relationship and take the proper lead and respond accordingly (if you so desire). If he tells you he likes you, then respond back in like (if you do that is). Never game play; always be honest. Game playing doesn't mean that you always say everything you know.


A wise lady knows when to hold back a bit and wait for the right time. Five months is too early.


You see, here's how it goes:
  1. Friendship with chemistry across the four areas: Mental, emotional, physical, and spiritual;
  2. Deep Friendship with chemistry;
  3. Love with chemistry;
  4. Marriage with chemistry;
  5. Baby (if couple chooses).


A man should not tell a lady he loves her until he's ready to propose to her as it's unwise otherwise. Say someone told youhe loved you and you dated another two years without any plan but "being in love" and broke up. That's not what love is.


Here's what love is:


"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails." I Corinthians 13: 4 - 8


3. Love goes places; it's not stagnant. By it's very nature, love grows the more it gets to know a person. People in their 80's are often heard to say they love each other more than when they married. Love carries through thick and thin, love is a commitment, a commitment for a lifetime.


When a man tells a girl he loves her, he should be prepared to ask her to marry him - or very shortly thereafter.


4. After a couple declares their love for each other, the man should ask for the ladies' hand in marriage if her parents are still living - always chivalrous and endearing to her folks no matter what their age, and upon her acceptance of his proposal, an engagement period should begin not to exceed a year in time.


5. Sometime during this engagement period, the couple should have really good pre-marital counseling. Oftentimes the pastor does counseling and other places always provide this. Good counseling will include an assessment taken by each person and topics will be discussed in depth such as finances (a big cause of marital break-ups), sex (another cause of marriage disintegration), children and / or stepchildren, blended families, careers, etc.


6. Say you told him you love him now . . . . Then what? That puts him under a sort of obligation to tell you he loves you then or sometime in the near future. If he hasn't come to that conclusion yet for himself, then he's going to feel pressured inside. That's just how it is. He's going to feel uncomfortable and either he will try to force feelings out of politeness or he'll back away as he'll begin to feel sort of caged and ill at ease.


He may even start to avoid you a bit because he might be afraid you'll say it again or have some sort of expectation from him and he won't know what to do.


It's far better just to keep those feelings to yourself. It's not playing games; rather, being prudent and wise.


There'll be plenty of time to tell him how very much you love him after he tells you.


If you're premature in doing it before he does, you do risk him breaking up with you. That's happened to many a girl.


7. So, most definitely "Yes," wait patiently and see what develops. So you wait six more months until he tells you he loves you. That's a very small amount of time in terms of your whole lifetime. After all, you have all your life to be married to this man you love.


You don't mention your age, but say you're 39 and you marry him when you're 41, if you're the same age and live to be 81, you will have been married 40 years. Think about it all in terms of the timeline of your life and what that looks like rather than the narrowness of the moment.


Remember, love is about the other person, not yourself. This is very important to remember. Yes, you're in love and you want to tell him and maybe, the whole world, but now is just not the time.


8. For all you know, he may be waiting for a very special occasion to tell you he loves you and surprise you with a ring - maybe Christmas. Many a girl has become engaged around the holidays! In December, you will have known each other 11 months - still not long in terms of the length of your lives.


9. So, when he tells you he cares for you deeply, tell him the same thing back, but hold off on those three little words, "I love you." You'll be glad you did in the long run.


10. Keep in mind the tortoise wins the race.


JavaJava5
Dear Javajava5,


Thank you so much you have made me rethink the whole issue. You are right in the grand scheme of things five emonths is not a long period of time at all. I should get to know him much better first. And, thank you....I never felt as if I was playinggames by not expressing my emotions.


I really like what you said "Think about it all in terms of the timeline of your life and what that looks like rather than the narrowness of the moment" how true.


Thanks Java I could have made a big mistake!


Jlee
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I'm a big chicken when it comes to this. A man will never wonder how I feel. He will know I care. I will tell someone I like them lots and lots and lots and be playful about it. But I have never said those words first even if I felt it. I would never say I never would, but it's not likely.





I admit I am stubborn about first phone calls and other various milestones. I tend to make sure someone is comfortable to take the lead because that is what I hope they will do. And if they feel strongly enough about me, then they will and that is what I need to know and see demonstrated.
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I made the mistake ofbeing the first one to say I love you tomy now ex-husband and his response was "Oh, that's nice." Nothing else. That should've been my first clue that he would end up being bad for me, but LOVE IS BLIND. I would follow JavaJava5's advice. She is a very wise woman.
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jlee, wrote :

I met a wonderful man whom I have fallen in love with. I'm afraid to express my emotions. He told me he cares for me deeply but no "I love you" yet. Should I wait to see what developes and wait for him to say it first? We have been dating on a regular basis for five months now and we are very close. We talk everyday and see one another 2 to 3 days a week. I have meet his friends and some family members. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
I'd try to do it in a fun way. With my ex, I had gone to the trouble of having flowers delivered with a CD of some Tim McGraw song that said it all. He said it was the best way anyone ever told him that they loved him & he still has all that stuff & he's engaged to marry someone else...
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kiki87042 wrote :

I agree! Make it fun. The last relationship I had I too was afraid to say it first so I sang it...kind of. I was singing a song and the line was..."do you call it love, if you don't then what?"


When I got back to the table he looked at me and said, "You can say it you know." I shook my head and said I couldn't say it first. Then he took my face in his hands and said it.


I can hear the "Aaahhhs" all over the country!
Yes, AAAAAAH! Sigh! mmmmmm!
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BSchorr wrote :




If your dream guy is a guy who wanders away when you express sincere emotion to him then by all means...play some games and catch yourself that guy. If, on the other hand, you want a guy who smiles and kisses you when you tell him you care about him then...


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No my dream guy is not that. Im simply a chicken. I guess that's the bottom line.


I've been hurt and betrayed by a loved one already. Can't deal with it twice.


I'm all confused about these whole dating thing. It's easier said than done. How would I even know to begin with who is a game player? Can you tell? Well, I can't.


That's why I wonder even though nobody admits maybe they are all game players to some degee. Right timing, right whatever.... how do you ever know.


deal breaker, what to post, what not to post on your profile, what to say, what not to say, what's proper, what's not.... read the threads on this site! all these things people want to defy and set rules to do it or not, now doesn't that sound like a game?


Im simple and straight forward. Itell what Imean. I can't lie. Also that's whom I like to have aroundme


But somehow...the thing called love, I become a chicken and since I can't lie I avoid at all cost rather than express it.


Again, that's just me.





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