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I have been with the father of my three younger children for about 6 years. The entire time we've been together has been one lie after another. The most significant lies are about other women. He has
cheated probably the whole time we've been together. I know he's still doing it but when I confront him of course he lies. I tell him its over and I tell him to go be with whatever it is he's looking for. He won't leave. I feel like I'm just a safety net for him. Just someone to fall back on when his flings are over. Other than the confrontations we don't talk about anything! He don't know what it's doing to me or maybe he knows but just don't care. When he asks if I'm crying I'll tell him no. I'm afraid to tell him how I'm really feeling because if he knows what hurts me he'll do things to hurt me on purpose. I love him with all of my heart but it's killing me to think I'll never be what he really wants. He comes home and plays house and we do have an active sex life. I just feel like its all a lie! So to get even I find myself flirting more, giving out my number to other guys, talking to other men as if I am single. But I only do it because he's doing it. If he could be faithful I'd never even look at another man. I guess I just want him to feel the pain I'm feeling hoping it will make him stop cheating. But like everything else he could care less. He gets mad at me when he finds numbers in my phone and we argue. I've told him I only do it because he does it, but he still won't stop what he's doing. I'd like some advice on whether I should fight for the man that I love or just let go. And how do I let go? I don't want to hurt no more!
 
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I have been with the father of my three younger children for about 6 years. The entire time we've been together has been one lie after another. The most significant lies are about other women. He has
cheated probably the whole time we've been together. I know he's still doing it but when I confront him of course he lies. I tell him its over and I tell him to go be with whatever it is he's looking for. He won't leave. I feel like I'm just a safety net for him. Just someone to fall back on when his flings are over. Other than the confrontations we don't talk about anything! He don't know what it's doing to me or maybe he knows but just don't care. When he asks if I'm crying I'll tell him no. I'm afraid to tell him how I'm really feeling because if he knows what hurts me he'll do things to hurt me on purpose. I love him with all of my heart but it's killing me to think I'll never be what he really wants. He comes home and plays house and we do have an active sex life. I just feel like its all a lie! So to get even I find myself flirting more, giving out my number to other guys, talking to other men as if I am single. But I only do it because he's doing it. If he could be faithful I'd never even look at another man. I guess I just want him to feel the pain I'm feeling hoping it will make him stop cheating. But like everything else he could care less. He gets mad at me when he finds numbers in my phone and we argue. I've told him I only do it because he does it, but he still won't stop what he's doing. I'd like some advice on whether I should fight for the man that I love or just let go. And how do I let go? I don't want to hurt no more!
FIrst of all, I am concerned for your health. If he is having unprotected sex with these women and then with you then you are at risk for who knows what. Has either of you been tested?

Second, if this has been going on the entire time you have been together then you never have had much of a relationship. I wonder why you feel the need to stay with a man that has never been faithful and that does things to hurt you ON PURPOSE. No one should have to deal with that and no one should allow someone else to treat them that way. Have you talked to a counselor? Have you tried to do couples counseling?

Third, the example being set for your children is unbelievably unhealthy. Their image of how partners should treat each other is not going to be good, no matter how hard you try to hide it. Please for their sake do SOMETHING to stop this ongoing misery. They deserve better too.

Fourth, STOP flirting with men and taking their numbers. Just because he is doing it is no excuse. Try to be a better person than that. What kind of person do you want to be? I think you should want to be someone that is no longer a victim and no longer reacts to what others do but instead finds the right thing for you. Becoming a cheater yourself doesn't seem to be the right choice.

I know I have been blunt but I don't want to just tell you what you want to hear. Please do right by yourself.

All the best to you and your children.
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I have been with the father of my three younger children for about 6 years. The entire time we've been together has been one lie after another. The most significant lies are about other women. He has
cheated probably the whole time we've been together. I know he's still doing it but when I confront him of course he lies. I tell him its over and I tell him to go be with whatever it is he's looking for. He won't leave. I feel like I'm just a safety net for him. Just someone to fall back on when his flings are over. Other than the confrontations we don't talk about anything! He don't know what it's doing to me or maybe he knows but just don't care. When he asks if I'm crying I'll tell him no. I'm afraid to tell him how I'm really feeling because if he knows what hurts me he'll do things to hurt me on purpose. I love him with all of my heart but it's killing me to think I'll never be what he really wants. He comes home and plays house and we do have an active sex life. I just feel like its all a lie! So to get even I find myself flirting more, giving out my number to other guys, talking to other men as if I am single. But I only do it because he's doing it. If he could be faithful I'd never even look at another man. I guess I just want him to feel the pain I'm feeling hoping it will make him stop cheating. But like everything else he could care less. He gets mad at me when he finds numbers in my phone and we argue. I've told him I only do it because he does it, but he still won't stop what he's doing. I'd like some advice on whether I should fight for the man that I love or just let go. And how do I let go? I don't want to hurt no more!
And how's all this working for you?
 
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From what you describe, your relationship has been over for a very long time, you guys just haven't broken up yet. Sorry you are going through this.

I understand that you are doing a lot of these revenge things to him because you are hurting. You say that you want him to feel the pain, but obviously he doesn't. He is continuing on with living with you, because you are gving him permission to. You give him permission to mistreat you each time he cheats, and does the things to hurt you. It gets reinforced because you continue to have sex. Why should he leave? You give him no reason to leave.

The fact that you are looking at and talking to other men shows that you recognize your need to feel love and respected. He's proven that he will not be faithful, so hoping that he will because you want him to is not going to fix it. You can break your back and fall all over yourself doing 100 things to change yourself for him, but you have already seen it does no good. He gets a benefit from how he is living his life. He is the only one that has to want to change.

He can still be the father of your kids, but you should not have to tolerate his behavior. If it's your home, give him a deadline to move. If it's his home, start looking for your own place. Things will not change if you don't put your foot down. "figthing to get him back" will be more work, energy and effort on your part. You don't see him doing anything to win you over. As long as you're are still living in the same house together, it makes it harder to let go, and it just prolongs the pain.

What you have is not real love. Real love is mutual respect, caring, compassion, trust, and kindness. Love is supposed to make you feel content and secure. You should be feeling peace in your heart, and you should be happy, not hurting. It sounds like you are way more into him than he is into you. I'm sure you love him very much, but he doesn't appear to feel the same. Otherwise, he would not be behaving so badly. Actions speak louder than words.

You are already feeling like he is lying to you. If he tells you he loves you, I'm sure you would question it, since his actions don't match his words. This is not love. The trust is not there.

I am not trying to put you down or make you feel worse about your situation than you already do. I spent too many years with a man that mistreated me. Since my divorce, my life has gotten much better. The stress and drama is at a bare minumum now...mainly from daily life stuff. The best way to stop hurting is to get out of this situation, concentrate on yourself and your kids, and get counseling if it will help you to regain your self-esteem. You can still love him as the father of your kids, but don't allow him to kill your spirit.

You deserve to have a man in your life who will honor, respect and cherish you. He does not appear to be the one for you. It's hard to hear, but I believe that deep in your heart, you know it already.

Take care of yourself and your kids. The energy that you are putting into this relationship should go toward yourself and your kids. If there is any chance that things would work out for you and your man in the long run, you have to step away, and have him show you by his actions that he realizes that he is wrong in the way that he has treated you, and that he is willing to make things right. And he has to show actual efforts that he is changing for the better.

Good luck, and take care!
 
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Cheating on him will not resolve the fact that you are in an abusive relationship.Cheating is only one symptom, please look at the bigger picture and just kick him out.
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I have been with the father of my three younger children for about 6 years. The entire time we've been together has been one lie after another. The most significant lies are about other women. He has
cheated probably the whole time we've been together. I know he's still doing it but when I confront him of course he lies. I tell him its over and I tell him to go be with whatever it is he's looking for. He won't leave. I feel like I'm just a safety net for him. Just someone to fall back on when his flings are over. Other than the confrontations we don't talk about anything! He don't know what it's doing to me or maybe he knows but just don't care. When he asks if I'm crying I'll tell him no. I'm afraid to tell him how I'm really feeling because if he knows what hurts me he'll do things to hurt me on purpose. I love him with all of my heart but it's killing me to think I'll never be what he really wants. He comes home and plays house and we do have an active sex life. I just feel like its all a lie! So to get even I find myself flirting more, giving out my number to other guys, talking to other men as if I am single. But I only do it because he's doing it. If he could be faithful I'd never even look at another man. I guess I just want him to feel the pain I'm feeling hoping it will make him stop cheating. But like everything else he could care less. He gets mad at me when he finds numbers in my phone and we argue. I've told him I only do it because he does it, but he still won't stop what he's doing. I'd like some advice on whether I should fight for the man that I love or just let go. And how do I let go? I don't want to hurt no more!
 
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Why would someone stay with a person who continually lies and cheats on them?

No wonder they say nice guys finish last.
 
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FIrst of all, I am concerned for your health. If he is having unprotected sex with these women and then with you then you are at risk for who knows what. Has either of you been tested?

Second, if this has been going on the entire time you have been together then you never have had much of a relationship. I wonder why you feel the need to stay with a man that has never been faithful and that does things to hurt you ON PURPOSE. No one should have to deal with that and no one should allow someone else to treat them that way. Have you talked to a counselor? Have you tried to do couples counseling?

Third, the example being set for your children is unbelievably unhealthy. Their image of how partners should treat each other is not going to be good, no matter how hard you try to hide it. Please for their sake do SOMETHING to stop this ongoing misery. They deserve better too.

Fourth, STOP flirting with men and taking their numbers. Just because he is doing it is no excuse. Try to be a better person than that. What kind of person do you want to be? I think you should want to be someone that is no longer a victim and no longer reacts to what others do but instead finds the right thing for you. Becoming a cheater yourself doesn't seem to be the right choice.

I know I have been blunt but I don't want to just tell you what you want to hear. Please do right by yourself.

All the best to you and your children.
This is great advice! I can't add a thing to this.
 
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You sound so miserable and unhappy yet you're continuing to participate in this terminally sick relationship for some reason. Only you knows why that is.

He isn't going to change. Your solutions are
1) accept that and continue being with him, quit complaining and just live your life the way it is presented to you.
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2) pack up your things and the kids and leave and honestly try to change the way your life has gone-without him.

I know it's hard but thats just life sometimes.
 
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You cannot go on hurting this way: whatever you choose to do, it is important you do it right away, if not for your sake at least do it for your children.

Your sanity, your integrity are of utmost importance for the wellbeing of your children, don't deprive them.

I agree with everithing Yoga_gal wrote, she gave you very sound advice!

You just took the first step by writing here, now go ahead on the path you already know is the right one for you.

I wish you loads of strength... keep positive, you will succeed!
 
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Hey there. I can tell that you are hurt but I don't think that you're confused. You know what needs to happen next. You are just not ready to be strong for yourself. Maybe you are afraid of being alone. Maybe you feel that no one will accept you because you have children. Maybe your self-esteem has suffered so much that you don't feel that you have the strength to move forward. Your feelings are natural but they don't have to be true unless you allow them to be. I don't think your "love" has anything to do with the reason that you stay. Understand this...you cannot get this time back. For every day that you stay, it leads to one less day of your search for independence and happiness. There are better days ahead. Put one foot in front of the other and walk! You can do it. Start by rediscovering the love that you have for yourself and your kids. Even if you don't really feel it right now, say it, out loud, every day. "I love myself and my kids and this situation is not healthy for us. There is a better life for us and we will have it!" Speak this into existence. And here's a secret....ready? Men respect women that respect themselves. It's true! So stop the arguing, crying, self-pity and tell him, that you need some time. Let that be the beginning of the end. What do you have to lose by walking away, besides your life?
 
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