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krystal101 is offline krystal101 Post #1  November 25,2009, 4:54pm
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I dated a guy for 3 months, very regularly. We both wanted to go slow and get to know each other because we are both at a point in our lives where we want something serious. This was all discussed. He told me he wanted relationship and was courting me and was a complete gentleman. We had a great time together. We hadn't slept together yet, but the flirting was escalating, and it seemed like we were heading in that direction very soon. My feelings were growing for him. One night we were out with a dramaqueen friend of mine. They got in a stupid fight mostly because they disagreed about things and she can not "lose" or be disagreed with. She started all kinds of crap, and he flung it back at her. I finally got them to stop. Later that night, he told me he thinks he should break up with me to protect my friendship with her. I explained that their fight had nothing to do with my emotions for him and it could all be handled like adults. But he left! He then proceeded to email, and his explanations as to why he left were in poems or were full of contradicting statements. I could not get him on the phone. I tried to tell him I did not understand and did not want him to leave over a fight with her. He then started to say (in emails/poems) that he was protecting me and doing the honorable thing. I was stupid to write back trying to figure it all out because it only led to 3 weeks of emailing and hearing the same thing that he adored me so much but would rather protect my smile, etc. But he never clearly told me why he left if he cared for me and what exactly he is protecting me from. He says he has his reasons, but that i was the best thing to happen to him in a long time. I asked if he was scared off by falling for me, and he says that i can have my opinion of him, but he has his reasons and what don't i understand about him protecting me? He told me he hasn't even told his friends that he left me, and he has barely even told himself. This last email I got tonight was him saying he has one thing to be thankful for this Thanksgiving-- that is that he got to know me and all these wonderful things about me, and he was about to fall in love and all his family and friends knew it. SO i feel completely mind-F@#ked. If he had to protect me from him by leaving, why did he wait until now? Why string me along for 3 months? If he was falling in love, why leave? Here I was going slow, trying to be with someone who wants to be serious, and he bailed out when it started to become that way. So i am still confused and hurt over it. I feel led on. When I try to accept that it just couldn't be ad I am lucky to know now, I get some email just reminding me of his contradiction and confusion. I don't know why people date when they then say they must leave because there are things to protect someone special from, yet say they were falling in love.... Should I block his email address? He keeps sending stupid stuff like youtube videos and jokes. It's like he can't commit to being with me, but he can't commit to leaving me. I think I just need some confirmation that I am not crazy. He has confused me so much and makes me feel like I have lost my mind. I will never get to know why. Now I am trying to figure out how to move on.
 
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His behavior is confusing and hurtful (whether he intends it to be or not.) I don't think you are crazy at all. I think you summed it up best when you say he can't seem to commit to being with you and can't commit to leaving you. If it were me I think I would tell him the truth that you are really confused by his behavior. I would suggest he takes some time to decide whether he is coming or going.

One thing I have learned is to believe people when they say crazy things like they need to protect me from themselves. I wonder if this has ever happened with him and someone else before. I also think his behavior has very little to do with the fight with your friend. It sounds like a convenient excuse.

Welcome to the boards. I hope you will let us know how this turns out.
 
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littlebluemonkeymind is offline littlebluemonkeymind Post #3  November 25,2009, 7:22pm
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What she said.

And no matter what, it will be alright. Fortunately, our quality of life and our happiness are not dependent on anyone but ourselves.
 
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scandalous is offline scandalous Post #4  November 25,2009, 8:01pm
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You will hurt for a while, but in time, you will see that this was meant to be. He did you a favor by leaving now. If he can leave over something so trivial, then it shows that he will definitely leave when the situation is so serious and you would need him the most. He can't be trusted again, no matter what he says next. I, too, have been abandoned by a man, so I feel what you are feeling. If a person can just up and leave once, it gets easier to do it again and again. Don't allow him to do it to you again. He is sending you the silly stuff to stay connected to you in any possible way. He knows what he lost and he regrets it. If he is not man enough to give you his whole heart, knowing that he loves you, then it's better that you save your heart for someone who will appreciate you and love you no matter what. This poetry and other contradictory things is just mind games. All behavior is purposeful. Even if he is not trying to intentionally hurt you, he is intending something. And for him to say that he is protecting you (from himself)...that alone is what you pay attention to! Believe that, if nothing else. He's got a skeleton in the closet and he does not want that door open. That is the real reason why he left. If he were an honorable man, he would be truthful and tell you the real reason why he left. Even when the truth hurts, it is still the truth and you could respect it more than these ridiculous things he is making excuses about. You won't understand all of this now, but later on, the reason will come to you, you will see it. This is a blessing in disguise.
 
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You are okay Krystal, your feelings however will take awhile to heal. There is hope...hang on.

Regarding the email situation, I would ask him to first stop sending confusing emails like such and such, etc, and that you are not going to email him again. Then if that does not work, yes I would block his email. Some people are in such denial, or they don't realize that they can't hear what you are telling them. It is okay to set boundaries for yourself.

He definitely left for his own reason, whether he realizes or not. If you two cannot come to an agreement, where you both can listen/hear each other, then the relationship most likely is over.

Krystal, there is someone out there for you do not give up
 
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Krystal, You made a big mistake bringing your girlfriend along on your date. Here is my reasoning why: Your Quote: Birds of a feather stick together.

"I have girl friends who have dated married men and they know I do not approve of that. I find it disrespectful.
I think it shows what kind of women they are. I am still friends with them, though I may not like what they do. But they are commitmentphobes and will learn the hard way. And i tell you this -- I will never bring my dates around them! Cuz if they go for a stranger's man with no qualms about it, won't they go for mine, too? You don't have to like it, and I would probably not let your dates see them in action. They may think you behave the same way."

When your girlfriend was out of control it was your place to tell her to behave herself or call it an evening!
Did you?
Maybe she slipped him her phone number and if she did it I bet it did not take her 3 months to become intimate with him.

The real problem is that you did not follow your own advice (above.) He may think that you behave the same way? I would not call him or e mail him, if he wants you, he knows how to find you. It's over forget about it.

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krystal101 wrote :
One night we were out with a dramaqueen friend of mine. They got in a stupid fight mostly because they disagreed about things and she can not "lose" or be disagreed with. She started all kinds of crap, and he flung it back at her. I finally got them to stop. Later that night, he told me he thinks he should break up with me to protect my friendship with her. Later that night, he told me he thinks he should break up with me to protect my friendship with her. I explained that their fight had nothing to do with my emotions for him and it could all be handled like adults. But he left!
You know, my initial impression to your post was that he was just looking for an excuse anyways, that this incident had nothing to do with him leaving, and now he's playing the "it's not you, it's me" card ...but then, I started to think more about it and putting myself in his shoes ...

Honestly, it sounds to me like you fed him to the wolf and stood back and watched. If this would have happened to me, I would've left you too ...and not been so nice about it. You clearly took a neutral stance during the whole thing, not wanting to take sides ...yet you admit that it was your friend who was the ultimate cause for it? In his eyes, you made your choice ...your friend and her bad behavior was more important to you than he was.

Now, I'm not one to go off saying that you should dump your friends for a relationship, but in this case, you should've stepped in and flat out told your friend that she was being disrespectful to your date and that you wouldn't tolerate it. It wasn't his job to protect himself from her, it was yours ...she's your friend, you put him in the situation.

You know, maybe if you admitted your responsibility in this matter and apologized for your lack of action, you might be able to open communication with him again. It seems to me, with his continued emailing you, he's not willing to give up on you yet ...but, he's also not willing to put up with being fodder for your friends' entertainment.

Beyond that, learn from this ...
 
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What it looks like to me, from the bit you wrote, is that he was just looking for an excuse to leave, and found something that he could use while making himself feel/look like "the good guy"in this incident.

You have a decision to make here. Let the "communications" go on, or stop them altogether. How badly is this bothering you really? If is is having a really negative effect on you, just pack it in in your mind and cut him off completely. Totally. Sometimes that is what you have to do for you to be able to move on.

Harvey7 makes some good points too, along with the other posters here.

Listening to him, or cutting him off completely - your decision. Decide what you think is best for you overall. It is not an easy one.

Best of luck whatever you decide.

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krystal101 wrote :
I dated a guy for 3 months, very regularly. We both wanted to go slow and get to know each other because we are both at a point in our lives where we want something serious. This was all discussed. He told me he wanted relationship and was courting me and was a complete gentleman. We had a great time together. We hadn't slept together yet, but the flirting was escalating, and it seemed like we were heading in that direction very soon. My feelings were growing for him. One night we were out with a dramaqueen friend of mine. They got in a stupid fight mostly because they disagreed about things and she can not "lose" or be disagreed with. She started all kinds of crap, and he flung it back at her. I finally got them to stop. Later that night, he told me he thinks he should break up with me to protect my friendship with her. I explained that their fight had nothing to do with my emotions for him and it could all be handled like adults. But he left! He then proceeded to email, and his explanations as to why he left were in poems or were full of contradicting statements. I could not get him on the phone. I tried to tell him I did not understand and did not want him to leave over a fight with her. He then started to say (in emails/poems) that he was protecting me and doing the honorable thing. I was stupid to write back trying to figure it all out because it only led to 3 weeks of emailing and hearing the same thing that he adored me so much but would rather protect my smile, etc. But he never clearly told me why he left if he cared for me and what exactly he is protecting me from. He says he has his reasons, but that i was the best thing to happen to him in a long time. I asked if he was scared off by falling for me, and he says that i can have my opinion of him, but he has his reasons and what don't i understand about him protecting me? He told me he hasn't even told his friends that he left me, and he has barely even told himself. This last email I got tonight was him saying he has one thing to be thankful for this Thanksgiving-- that is that he got to know me and all these wonderful things about me, and he was about to fall in love and all his family and friends knew it. SO i feel completely mind-F@#ked. If he had to protect me from him by leaving, why did he wait until now? Why string me along for 3 months? If he was falling in love, why leave? Here I was going slow, trying to be with someone who wants to be serious, and he bailed out when it started to become that way. So i am still confused and hurt over it. I feel led on. When I try to accept that it just couldn't be ad I am lucky to know now, I get some email just reminding me of his contradiction and confusion. I don't know why people date when they then say they must leave because there are things to protect someone special from, yet say they were falling in love.... Should I block his email address? He keeps sending stupid stuff like youtube videos and jokes. It's like he can't commit to being with me, but he can't commit to leaving me. I think I just need some confirmation that I am not crazy. He has confused me so much and makes me feel like I have lost my mind. I will never get to know why. Now I am trying to figure out how to move on.

All my opinion...based on what it sounds like, based on what I had to deal with for years and years from the same guy.

He may have commitment issues and if that is the case you will always have this in out back and forth behavior. He wants to keep you around but not in the realistic sense. The fight with your friend is all an excuse so ignore all of that. Most likely it was more like being around your friend, not wanting to be which led to more thoughts on the future and he checked out. Most people will stay when they love someone.

I don't think these guys do all of this on purpose. I finally had to change my email address and I have not heard from mine in weeks. He has my number but since he is not that interested he doesn't call...but he used to email me all the time.

It will sting but you are smart to realize all of this is not right. Will you be ok? Yes! Will he be ok? Probably not, he will do the same thing over and over but at least you found out before you slept with him!!!!

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My post got modded for some reason, so it will likely be weeks before it shows up ...just wanted to summarize what I said as I think it is an important perspective in this situation ...

Taking a neutral stance between your date and your badly behaving friend was the wrong move here. Of course, no one is saying you should ever have to choose between your friends and your dates ...but, in this case, you admit that your friend was over the line (because "that's the way she is"), you put your date in a bad situation and sat back and watched. It shouldn't have been his job to protect himself from your friend, you should've stepped up to the plate and told her that she she was being rude and disrespectful (and, if that loses you a friend, what have you honestly lost?). You didn't ...and that says a lot about what the future would look like with you.

Honestly, I don't blame the guy ...

It is possible that you can salvage this by taking responsibility for your inaction and apologizing for putting him in that situation and then not bailing him out, learning from this, and never letting it happen again.
 
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