The Truth and Nothing but the Truth

The Truth and Nothing but the Truth

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nightling is offline nightling Post #11  November 4,2009, 6:06pm
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clearlyoblique wrote :
My voice squeaks when I lie. My sister's voice squeaks for the same reason.

I come from a family of truth telling terrible liars. We do the Southern Social thing ... and those lines pass muster out of practice ... but an outright lie? Hmmm ... but my sister is good at poker ... I wonder how she does that. The liar. lol.
I rather think lying has its place. Like when the Gestapo comes knocking, it's nice if you can believably lie about Anne Frank not being in your attic.
 
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kevin76 wrote :
The thing about which direction they look always bothered me too, but for different reasons.

The idea is that people look to their left when accessing memories and to their right when accessing imagination.
That may be true in the vast majority of cases, but I think there could always be exceptions. What if a person is really imaginative in the way they think, and use their imagination as a 'jump-start' for their memory? What if the memory is so clear it takes no effort to recall it, but they are imagining how you might react to what they're saying?
What if they're imagining you naked to calm themselves down?

The 'science' is probably pretty accurate, but the brain is complex and so are people. Would you condemn someone to the electric chair based on which direction they looked when you asked them a question?

Mnemonic: Eye Direction and Lying
I think the operative words in your referenced article are "normally organized".
 
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Yeah. We all want people to show courage when it matters. Adrenaline mixed with courage enables different outcomes for anyone.

But if someone asks me if I don't drink out of public water fountains out of fear of germs? And I say no? *squeak*
 
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Hmm, very interesting, I cannot comment on kevin76's post.

Well what I said is that in his reference the operative words are "normally organized".
 
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Gr8Guyn2008 wrote :
Hmm, very interesting, I cannot comment on kevin76's post.
But was he looking left or right when he wrote it?
 
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Really, it doesn't matter one little bit whether or not you're lying or telling the truth.

All that matters is whether they ~think~ you're telling the truth.

"I never slept with her!"

See? It doesn't matter what I said, or whether or not it's the truth. It just matters what you ~think~ is the truth.

Perception is reality. Innocence and guilt have no bearing if you stand accused -- you're guilty by accusation.

Period.

Haven't you ever been caught trying to force a bold-faced truth on someone?

Haven't you passed off an honest lie?

Truth doesn't matter one bit. All that matters is whether they believe you, or disbelieve you.


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One is meant to “enhance” the truth, the other to hide it, or replace it with a totally false version of reality. Self-flattery is no crime, but outright lies are dangerous. They usually obscure facts that, if known, would threaten the relationship—other romantic commitments, severe financial difficulty, even criminal behavior.

I guess what I find disturbing is the above. Outright lies, and nothing but lies are dangerous. Especially because of severe financial difficulty and criminal behaviour. Not to be the heavy here, but sociapathy is alive and well out there, what they are cutely called as players. Dangerous indeed.

Most of us do lie, to enhance, but not consistently and for the express purpose of getting into someone's life and destroying it. Have a care everyone and read up on anti-social personality disorder, which is the term now used by psychiatrists for sociopaths.
 
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The "if he looks up and to the right" is only partially true.  You need to set a baseline before you can determine the likelihood of lying vs truth.  if you ask "Hey what color is that shirt?" or "What is your mom's birthday?" and they look up and to the right, then that is their baseline and a look up and to the left may be the danger sign because they are accessing a different part of their cerebral cortex. 
 
The "trust your gut" is quite true.  So many people get caught up in the game of trying to prove someone is lying.  If your gut says the person is not being honest, then there is a reason for that...and you should listen.
 
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What about people who have created a fanatsy world -- have lied so much to themselves they believe it is all true? Or people who put up a "front" -- for a long time, their behaviour suggests they are well-adjusted, smart, and well-rounded, but after a few months, that mask starts slipping...but they are unaware of it?
 
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PY_2 is offline PY_2 Post #20  November 7,2009, 9:06am

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Can_I_just_be_Jo wrote :
I look down and bite my lower lip when answering questions
If a woman does this during our date (particularly towards me) I'd be nervous!
 
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