Annnnne is offline Annnnne Post #21  October 26,2009, 5:36pm
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Harvey7 wrote :
Not her job, is she going to teach him how to put it on? That is the job of of a sexual educator in the public schools which teach both boys and girls how to have safe sex. She can ask him if he has learned in sex education how to have safe sex?

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Did you for real just say that its NOT a parents job to educate their children on something this important???
 
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Harvey7 is offline Harvey7 Post #22  October 27,2009, 12:30am

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Did you for real just say that its NOT a parents job to educate their children on something this important???
What I said was all things being equal I would prefer that a trained licensed professional teach my son or daughter with their peer group. It is a social event and kids can ask questions, when they get home or choose not to. They also get sample to take home for safe sex!

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Harvey7 is offline Harvey7 Post #23  October 27,2009, 12:43am

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Now you're just just being ridiculous. Not worth taking the bait.

How does one bait, a master baitor? My question was is there equality in sex education for both males and female students?Do both sexes get devices to practice safe sex with?

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Thanks to "abstinence only" curriculums, many schools are not allowed to discuss birth control options in their sex ed classes.
And one of the big reasons why the US has the highest teen pregnancy rates among developed nations. If I was a parent in the US, schools would be the last place I would trust to educate my kids about safe sex.
 
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And one of the big reasons why the US has the highest teen pregnancy rates among developed nations. If I was a parent in the US, schools would be the last place I would trust to educate my kids about safe sex.
I don't understand what your trying to tell us. Are you Anti-American? Love to visit the U.S., but the first to criticize or free to cast the first stone! Why so angry?
Have you attended sex education class's in a U.S. Public school?

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My question was is there equality in sex education for both males and female students? Do both sexes get devices to practice safe sex with?
Actually, neither of those questions were your question. And neither do they support your original premise, that it is not a parents job but rather an educators job to teach children about sex. That is what I personally take issue with. I quote:

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Not her job, is she going to teach him how to put it on? That is the job of of a sexual educator in the public schools which teach both boys and girls how to have safe sex.
It's the lack of parental responsibility from the equation that scares me. Who is responsible for teaching them basic social skills? Who's responsibility is it to teach them right from wrong? What about drugs?
Gangs? Countless other life lessons that need to be taught?

My point is that parents should share in responsibility for every aspect of their child's life and not leave it to be someone else's job to handle the hard parts, or the parts they are uncomfortable with. And the OP was seeking advice on how to do just that. Not looking for a way to avoid it.

PS: I'm still a novice baitor but I aspire to bigger things. Luckily my parents took the time to teach me about them.
 
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Actually, neither of those questions were your question. And neither do they support your original premise, that it is not a parents job but rather an educators job to teach children about sex. That is what I personally take issue with. I quote:

It's the lack of parental responsibility from the equation that scares me. Who is responsible for teaching them basic social skills? Who's responsibility is it to teach them right from wrong? What about drugs?
Gangs? Countless other life lessons that need to be taught?

My point is that parents should share in responsibility for every aspect of their child's life and not leave it to be someone else's job to handle the hard parts, or the parts they are uncomfortable with. And the OP was seeking advice on how to do just that. Not looking for a way to avoid it.

PS: I'm still a novice baitor but I aspire to bigger things. Luckily my parents took the time to teach me about them.
If you learned how to master your baitor you would not be a novice for long!

You still have not answered the question of equality of sex education between boys and girls? Boys are allowed to take samples of the rubbers such as lubricated and pleasure giving devices with ridges and ticklers! Are the female students also entitled to the same options?

You are twisting your own morality into the post or just Apostilizing? "Who is responsible for teaching them basic social skills? Who's responsibility is it to teach them right from wrong? What about drugs? Gangs? Countless other life lessons that need to be taught? Those items are not related to the post, are they? I did teach my kids right from wrong and act as a voice of reason, but it's their choice to light that joint, snort that white powder or stick that needle in to his or her arm. As far as gangs my kids played in organized sports and did not hang out with them at 7-11 the local hang out.

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And one of the big reasons why the US has the highest teen pregnancy rates among developed nations. If I was a parent in the US, schools would be the last place I would trust to educate my kids about safe sex.
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I don't understand what your trying to tell us.

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What's not to understand? The 'abstinence only' sex education curriculums so popular in the US have resulted in the highest teen pregnancy rate in the developed world.

If you want your kid to avoid pregnancy and STDs, it makes no sense to rely on an education system that helps contribute to such high teen pregnancy rates.

It's simple logic.
 
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What's not to understand? The 'abstinence only' sex education curriculums so popular in the US have resulted in the highest teen pregnancy rate in the developed world.

If you want your kid to avoid pregnancy and STDs, it makes no sense to rely on an education system that helps contribute to such high teen pregnancy rates.

It's simple logic.
"'abstinence only' sex education curriculum's" are only popular in religious schools or small town America, it relieves the parent of the responsibility of teaching sex education to their kids. What city's or states are you making reference to? Do you have any experience in a U.S. Public School or are you just spouting off, like Henny Penny?

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it sounds like she's starting cold, like she hasn't talked about it anyway before. if so, she should start talking about it in general - not lead with "ohmigod! i hope you're using protection! are you using protection!!!" sex isn't just about birth control, in any case. it's a big topic. she could try warming up with a question about what he thinks of the vaccination for girls for HPV.
 
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