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Long time reader..first time poster . I always enjoy reading all the great advice those on here provide so I thought maybe this time I can use some myself.

I was dating a guy I met online for about 2 months until he recently started withdrawing from me and then eventually ended things. To give you some background, we hit it off immediately and often commented to one another that it was quite strange but nice how we connected to well. We both discussed how we have had countless dates that went nowhere because we are both fairly picky and friends always commenting that our expectations were too high. So we were both relieved and surprised to see we thought we found exactly what we were both looking for in each other and had an instant connection. From the very first date throughout the 2 months, we spent about 4 days each week together, had several sleep overs, talked/texted throughout the days, were intimate and introduced and hung out with each of our friends and family members a few times. Things seemed to be wonderful. He often texted me the nicest most beautiful texts that he was so happy he met me and so glad we were in each other's live.

Here's the red flag (and the only one I really ever saw in him)...he mentioned to me early on that he had major commitment and trust issues as a result from a poor childhood and bad ex girlfriends. On more than 1 occasion he did say to me that he broke up with girls for dumb reasons or that I should not say too many serious relationship things to him because he "could run the other way". He never said these things to me in a serious convo, more just in passing comments so I guess I didn't take them as seriously as I should have. And anyway, I wasn't seeing any signs of him having commitment issues being that things were so great with us.

I know it was only 2 months, but based on how things were going, things were moving quickly and smoothly and I was really thinking this might be "the one". Of course because hindsight is 20/20, I also see now, some other things that were probably red flags. He often liked staying very close to home when making plans, stressed out easily over plans if they didn't go as planned, had difficulty making decisions or dealing with my indecisiveness about random things like what to have for dinner, suffered severely with sleep deprivation etc. None of this stuff really bothered me because it seemed like small issues in the big picture.

Over the 2 months, aside from all the time we spent together, long convo's etc...he made a few random comments that made me think he also saw a possible future between us...1. once when discussing our decorating differences, he said to me "you can decorate the guest bathroom and I will decorate the one nobody sees". 2. Another time we were playing tennis and I commented that I wanted my children to grow up playing tennis. He is very into moto-cross sports. He responded "they will play tennis and moto-cross riding". 3. He many times asked me questions that I knew were issues that were important for him in his life i.e. making sure I was okay with him one day having a big dog since he likes them but knows I am scared of them, making sure I don't ever want to move out of state etc. I also told him I was afraid to say this but wanted him to know I loved him and he replied that he loved me too but added "for as much as someone could love someone in 2 months". Which I agree..I wasn't in love with him but as a person, love him.

Sorry for the long background but I think it was important so you have the whole picture. So fast forward to the 7th week of our relationship, he lost his job. For the next 2 weeks I definitely noticed all the "red flags" that I mentioned above becoming higher. He was easily agitated with me, didnt want to go out etc. I was trying to be there for him and tell him everything will work out etc but he started to slowly withdraw from me. It started with him not wanting to see me one weekend and telling me to just make plans without him (this is after seeing him every weekend since we first started dating so it was a bit alarming), then telling me he would hang out and then just not call and when we'd talk later he would just say that I should have realized we weren't hanging out once it got too late into the night (this is coming from the same guy that before this, would call me if his battery was low just to let me know in case I needed him and his phone died).

This went on for about 3 weeks of him acting this way towards me and continuing to pull away and me trying to talk to him about what was going on. He became very closed off and completely shut down. He basically says he has no answers for me but he needs to work on himself. He said him losing his job has a lot to do with it and he realized once he lost his job that he isn't happy with himself so he can't make me happy. He said his issues issues (which he never directly told me what those issues are so I can only assume he's referring to his commitment and trust issues) are too personal to talk about with me and he doesn't know me and doesn't trust me. He said I don't know him either and he doesn't know how to be in a real relationship and he will eventually ruin things between us. This has been devastating to me because I thought things were going so well between us and this came out of nowhere.

It's now been a little more than a month since he officially ended things but we were still talking occasionally on the phone. We haven't seen one another though since he first started to withdraw because he just refused to make plans with me. I have tried to be there for him over these last few weeks but he doesn't seem to care or want my help. The positive thing is that he immediately started seeing a therapist when this all started. But he has now told me to move on and that he isnt the right one for me and vice versa. Of course I continued to press him for more answers or explanation but he can't/doesn't give me any. He said I said all the right things in the beginning but he doesn't know if they were real and that I said certain things in the beginning but he realized I'm not who he thought I was in the beginning and that he has no feelings for me anymore other than thinking I'm a great person. This all sounds like craziness to me but I've never dealt with someone with commitment issues. I can't believe that someone that was intimate with me and had conversations about the future could turn on me and tell me they don't trust me. Especially considering I KNOW I am very trustworthy and think he is shutting out the wrong person.

At this point, we ended things on the phone with me very upset and him apologizing, saying he cares for me but to move on. We agreed to be friends and he said he would call me "someday".

So I guess my question is, did I read too much into this relationship and his comments about the future, his texts, all the time we spent together etc? Or do you think this all sounds like someone with commitment issues?

Apologize for the length of this but appreciate the feedback...
- October 14th, 2009, 06:29 pm
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Hi Tracey,

I'm so sorry for the rotten situation you're in right now. Everything seemed so perfect and then.... Boom! I know it's hard to understand what happened, and that makes it more difficult to let it (and him) go.

When a relationship is new, there is a kind of infatuation stage that can last for several months. During that time, you both feel like the other person is perfect, that you're perfect, and that the two of you together are perfect. It's that starry-eyed, wonderful time in a new relationship. Then slowly over the course of time, you both start seeing each other and your relationship more realistically, and you decide if the relationship is going to continue to grow, or if it's basically run its course.

Sometimes though, that realization comes quickly and dramatically; especially if something unexpected happens, like a death in the family or in your guy's case, losing a job. That can really throw a person, and he might feel so overwhelmed by it that the thought of keeping a new relationship going at the same time that he is dealing with a crisis is simply too much to handle. So he bails.

Really, Tracey, it might not have anything to do with you. He might simply be completely devastated right now and has nothing to give to a fledgling relationship. Remember; your relationship is a young one and you haven't had the time necessary to develop a really strong, deep connection and trust level.

He knows how you feel about him. Give him some time and some space. Maybe when his life turns around, you may hear from him again. Maybe not. So don't wait around for him to contact you, and don't hound him. Get back out there and meet some new people. You never know who might be just around the corner......
- October 14th, 2009, 06:57 pm
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Wow...that is a lot to absorb. I am sorry Tracey that you thought you may have met "the one" and then have it end like this.

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I think you need to take him at his word and leave him be. There is something very inconsistent in his behaviour that leads me to think he is just not mentally healthy (not meaning he is sick - just that the guy has got some issues that he needs to deal with before he should be dating).

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I am really sorry. I can only imagine what it must be like thinking here you were dating a great guy that could be the one and him thinking the same thing - how wonderful is this - and then have him pull a 180 like that. That has got to be tough.

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I know some will say he is acting like this because he has lost his job. But from what you describe in your post, I would be more concerned with someone that was as inconsistent as him prior to losing his job (making comments about the future but then making comments about his commitment and trust issues - something is just not right with that. A reasonably healthy person would not be talking about the future if they had commitment and trust issues).

That is his deal and something he needs to figure out on his own. And I don't recommend being "the friend" and being there when he needs you. I really do think you need to just move on.

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- October 14th, 2009, 06:59 pm
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Thanks Mugsy. I am in my mid 30's and being that I have been single for quite some time, I am very familiar with that infatuation that often comes with new relationships. I thought there was a bit more of a deeper connection though between the two of us and certainly very different than past new relationships. He also said he never felt this way with any other woman he dated.

Thanks Lizzie. I don't think we are necessarily going to really be friends. I think we were just saying we aren't angry with one another and there aren't ill feelings between us even though I don't understand everything. I know I need to move on and I am trying. I'm just having a hard time understanding what went wrong and once I can wrap my head around it better, it will be much easier to move on.
- October 14th, 2009, 07:36 pm
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Yeah, I hear you. It would be a lot easier if you knew what happened. But I don't think he really knows himself so I don't think you will be able to really know what happened.

And I really do feel for you. To think everything is going great and then BAM!...it would make me wonder too.

But hey, at least you can hang out here with us. We have no clue either most of the time...but we still have fun.

Welcome to the boards...and sorry this happened!
- October 14th, 2009, 07:54 pm
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Tracey77 wrote :
Long time reader..first time poster . I always enjoy reading all the great advice those on here provide so I thought maybe this time I can use some myself.

I was dating a guy I met online for about 2 months until he recently started withdrawing from me and then eventually ended things. To give you some background, we hit it off immediately and often commented to one another that it was quite strange but nice how we connected to well. We both discussed how we have had countless dates that went nowhere because we are both fairly picky and friends always commenting that our expectations were too high. So we were both relieved and surprised to see we thought we found exactly what we were both looking for in each other and had an instant connection. From the very first date throughout the 2 months, we spent about 4 days each week together, had several sleep overs, talked/texted throughout the days, were intimate and introduced and hung out with each of our friends and family members a few times. Things seemed to be wonderful. He often texted me the nicest most beautiful texts that he was so happy he met me and so glad we were in each other's live.

Here's the red flag (and the only one I really ever saw in him)...he mentioned to me early on that he had major commitment and trust issues as a result from a poor childhood and bad ex girlfriends. On more than 1 occasion he did say to me that he broke up with girls for dumb reasons or that I should not say too many serious relationship things to him because he "could run the other way". He never said these things to me in a serious convo, more just in passing comments so I guess I didn't take them as seriously as I should have. And anyway, I wasn't seeing any signs of him having commitment issues being that things were so great with us.

I know it was only 2 months, but based on how things were going, things were moving quickly and smoothly and I was really thinking this might be "the one". Of course because hindsight is 20/20, I also see now, some other things that were probably red flags. He often liked staying very close to home when making plans, stressed out easily over plans if they didn't go as planned, had difficulty making decisions or dealing with my indecisiveness about random things like what to have for dinner, suffered severely with sleep deprivation etc. None of this stuff really bothered me because it seemed like small issues in the big picture.

Over the 2 months, aside from all the time we spent together, long convo's etc...he made a few random comments that made me think he also saw a possible future between us...1. once when discussing our decorating differences, he said to me "you can decorate the guest bathroom and I will decorate the one nobody sees". 2. Another time we were playing tennis and I commented that I wanted my children to grow up playing tennis. He is very into moto-cross sports. He responded "they will play tennis and moto-cross riding". 3. He many times asked me questions that I knew were issues that were important for him in his life i.e. making sure I was okay with him one day having a big dog since he likes them but knows I am scared of them, making sure I don't ever want to move out of state etc. I also told him I was afraid to say this but wanted him to know I loved him and he replied that he loved me too but added "for as much as someone could love someone in 2 months". Which I agree..I wasn't in love with him but as a person, love him.

Sorry for the long background but I think it was important so you have the whole picture. So fast forward to the 7th week of our relationship, he lost his job. For the next 2 weeks I definitely noticed all the "red flags" that I mentioned above becoming higher. He was easily agitated with me, didnt want to go out etc. I was trying to be there for him and tell him everything will work out etc but he started to slowly withdraw from me. It started with him not wanting to see me one weekend and telling me to just make plans without him (this is after seeing him every weekend since we first started dating so it was a bit alarming), then telling me he would hang out and then just not call and when we'd talk later he would just say that I should have realized we weren't hanging out once it got too late into the night (this is coming from the same guy that before this, would call me if his battery was low just to let me know in case I needed him and his phone died).

This went on for about 3 weeks of him acting this way towards me and continuing to pull away and me trying to talk to him about what was going on. He became very closed off and completely shut down. He basically says he has no answers for me but he needs to work on himself. He said him losing his job has a lot to do with it and he realized once he lost his job that he isn't happy with himself so he can't make me happy. He said his issues issues (which he never directly told me what those issues are so I can only assume he's referring to his commitment and trust issues) are too personal to talk about with me and he doesn't know me and doesn't trust me. He said I don't know him either and he doesn't know how to be in a real relationship and he will eventually ruin things between us. This has been devastating to me because I thought things were going so well between us and this came out of nowhere.

It's now been a little more than a month since he officially ended things but we were still talking occasionally on the phone. We haven't seen one another though since he first started to withdraw because he just refused to make plans with me. I have tried to be there for him over these last few weeks but he doesn't seem to care or want my help. The positive thing is that he immediately started seeing a therapist when this all started. But he has now told me to move on and that he isnt the right one for me and vice versa. Of course I continued to press him for more answers or explanation but he can't/doesn't give me any. He said I said all the right things in the beginning but he doesn't know if they were real and that I said certain things in the beginning but he realized I'm not who he thought I was in the beginning and that he has no feelings for me anymore other than thinking I'm a great person. This all sounds like craziness to me but I've never dealt with someone with commitment issues. I can't believe that someone that was intimate with me and had conversations about the future could turn on me and tell me they don't trust me. Especially considering I KNOW I am very trustworthy and think he is shutting out the wrong person.

At this point, we ended things on the phone with me very upset and him apologizing, saying he cares for me but to move on. We agreed to be friends and he said he would call me "someday".

So I guess my question is, did I read too much into this relationship and his comments about the future, his texts, all the time we spent together etc? Or do you think this all sounds like someone with commitment issues?

Apologize for the length of this but appreciate the feedback...
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Tracey77 wrote :
Thanks Mugsy. I am in my mid 30's and being that I have been single for quite some time, I am very familiar with that infatuation that often comes with new relationships. I thought there was a bit more of a deeper connection though between the two of us and certainly very different than past new relationships. He also said he never felt this way with any other woman he dated.

Thanks Lizzie. I don't think we are necessarily going to really be friends. I think we were just saying we aren't angry with one another and there aren't ill feelings between us even though I don't understand everything. I know I need to move on and I am trying. I'm just having a hard time understanding what went wrong and once I can wrap my head around it better, it will be much easier to move on.
People with commitment issues often have trouble accepting love. Sometimes they are not being their true self, so they tend to disbelieve that you can love them. How could you when you don't really "know" them? That comment about loving you as much as you can love him for two months sounds kind of like that.

It sounds to me like he has issues that make handling a relationship difficult under even ideal circumstances. Throw in a job loss ... maybe he has kind of lost it.

The comments you mention all sound like futuring to me. It's not a real promise of a life together. It's like wishful thinking. Some players will even say those kinds of things on purpose to make you think the relationship is going somewhere when it really isn't. I'm not saying he did it for that ...

In some ways you may have just dodged a bullet here from the things you say about how this went. You have to ask yourself if you want to be with someone who treats you the way he is right now just because they are in a difficult situation.

But if you decide he's worth it despite seemingly being somewhat impaired, I would just let tell him you will not bother him any more if he truly doesn't want to hear from you, but that you really care about him and want to hear from him if he ever changes his mind.

Then move on, build your social circle, date other people, do the best you can to build a happy life for yourself because you deserve to be happy and find someone who is not so impaired, someone capable of loving you 100 percent.

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All I know is that ...

when a man wants to spend time with you, he will
when he doesn't, he won't.

And that moat filled with snappy alligators which your Tarzan has to cross to get to you every time... is just your imagination.

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dietpepsi wrote :
All I know is that ...

when a man wants to spend time with you, he will
when he doesn't, he won't.

And that moat filled with snappy alligators which your Tarzan has to cross to get to you every time... is just your imagination.
lol!! Too funny!

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I think I need to post this to my mirror.

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But then again, where is the fun in life if everyone is how they seem to be?? What is the point?? And how am I suppose to get "the juice" on things?? lol!!
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The issue's are fear of being rejected and total insecurity and low self esteem! Would you say that getting fired was a total rejection and qualified him as an unworthy person? The insecurity is staying close to home and fear of plans? There probably a dozen others as well. You pushed his buttons with outside pressures of friends and family, the pressure built from other peoples expectations which he could not cope with. The little issues are things that you choose to look the other way or tune out, he was a show and tell toy! (Don't share your business with everyone.)

There is a rather simple solution and that would be to join him for couples counseling with his therapist. I'm sure that she could help the both of you. Tell him that he has broken your heart and he owes it to you, (pay your own way) Since she has been helping him she will be aware of your relationship and should be able to help you quickly, plus your contribution to the therapy session.The two of you should be able to reconnect emotionally or go your separate as friends.

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