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the fact that a 10 year old is still sleeping in the same bed as his parents is odd.
Fear of abandonment that is why I said that they did not do a good job of making him feel secure.

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- October 5th, 2009, 07:33 am
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Fleuellen wrote :
no it isn't
I don't have my own kids at the moment and may not be in the position to make further judgement. I was sick myself when I was a kid and needed medication throughout the night. However, I was on my own in a seprate bedroom after I started elementary school. I was 6 and a half at that time.

Personally, it looks less odd when fathers sleep with sons and mothers with daughters. But it is a bit difficult for me to understand why a mother still sleeps with her 10yo son (or a dad with daugher). Especially when this boy is old enough to date a girl from his school...
- October 5th, 2009, 07:39 am
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Harvey7 wrote :
Fear of abandonment that is why I said that they did not do a good job of making him feel secure.

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I guess my BF feels a little bit guilty that the kid went ill when he was only 2. My mom blamed herself for my being so sick and all the hush treatment I had to go through as a kid. But I don't remember that I felt self-pity during my childhood and or took it for granted that my parents had to pay me back (spoil me) because of my illness.

This boy would tell me something like "you know I have to go to bed early and if you don't leave before my bedtime, you have to stay over night so that my dad doesn't have to drive you around". First of all, I've never let his dad and him do that. Secondly, I think it's a decision between his dad and me, which we have been managing quite well so far.
- October 5th, 2009, 07:50 am
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Hi Havery7, thank you for your reply. It is painful to know the truth sometimes, but I have to face it if I want to keep this relationship or help myself out.

My BF got his divorce over five years ago because his ex had affairs with someone else. I don't know how long it would take one to get over the shock from a divorce. Based on what he told me, they were both young (around 30 when the kid was born) and were frustrated with the kid's disease. He ended seeking for help from a psychiatrist.
I don't know whether I would ever have a chance to talk to his ex coz I live in the south, he somewhere down town and his ex way up north. The only time I got close was Sundaty evenings when I rode with him to drive his son back to his ex's place. I've never seen his ex or anyone else in his family so far (other than his son).

All I can say about him is that he can be very sweet sometimes, but can also say something in a tone occasionally that would hurt you . I simply ate it coz I did not make those small issues a big deal. On the other hand, I told myself that no relationship is easy and I should look at his nice side. I read some articles from eHarmony and tried to learn how to keep a relationship by giving him his own space and not fussing about him disappearing all of a sudden during our text conversation or over the weekend.

He wrote in his email last week that I'd been always very good to him. However, I guess that being good is not enough to keep one's passion in a relationship? No matter what I do for him and his son, he would look hurt and told me that I was inconsiderate once out of a million time when I mentioned that I had to go home to work on my thesis. I don't know what I am scared about...?

The same issue as his son abandonment! Your issue with him is that he does not treat you with love and respect. He has no empathy with your feeling or you.

The difficulty of traveling 140 miles round trip or that you have your own life to live as well and he does nothing to make your life better. Things will not get better by them self over time things will get worse. If you want to speak to his wife pick up the phone and call her, introduce yourself your not a party to their divorce, so she should be rather receptive to a conversation about them and him. Your setting yourself up for a big disappointment with him in the form of heart break.

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- October 5th, 2009, 07:54 am
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He is doing what he feels is best for his son's emotional well being. If you choose to interfer with that YOU ARE HISTORY.
I speak from my own experience of raising three kids on my own. No woman spends the night at my house when the kids are home! I made an acception once and even then I slept on the couch. I will not do that again either as I know it bothered the kids. If distance is an issue get a hotel room.
Addintionally, I have had well intentioned ladies tell me how to raise my kids. They are history.
- October 5th, 2009, 08:54 am
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Harvey7 wrote :
The difficulty of traveling 140 miles round trip or that you have your own life to live as well and he does nothing to make your life better. Things will not get better by them self over time things will get worse. If you want to speak to his wife pick up the phone and call her, introduce yourself your not a party to their divorce, so she should be rather receptive to a conversation about them and him. Your setting yourself up for a big disappointment with him in the form of heart break. Harvey7.
When we first dated, he was willing to drive close to 25 miles from where I live to meet me and have dinner together (He would pick out the food that i like that put them in my plate. He still does that and this is why I can't forget that he can be very sweet sometimes). He said that he was willing to pick me up and drop me off at home if that was what took him to keep this relationship coz I have to drive 100 miles around trip to work everything while he walks a couple of mile to the office from his apartment.

And then the weekday dates became tough as both of us were very busy at work. He was, at the same time, trying to get the current 2-bed apartment and had some issues with the landlord. He looked frustrated once when he was on the phone with the landlord. Fortunately, everything turned out to fine. We did talked about where we should meet that day. Whether at the place 25 miles from my home or the parking lot 30 miles from my home (5 miles closer to his place). I don't remember how we made the decision, but we met at the 25-mile location. When something else had happened after that date, he brought it up that I was not considerate and decided to meet at that place after he had had a tough day at work (i happened to work from home that day); and that I had never made any efforts driving to his place on weekends. It was at that point that I decided to drive all the way to his place whenever his son was with him (it's more complicated if I told him that i should skip the weekends when his son was there). Then he sent me a msg saying that he felt so bad making me drive all the way...

Ever since I became hesitant whenever he offered me something (such as driving closer to pick me up, etc) coz I don't know whether he really meant it or not. I am quite an independent person and would like to take over responsibilities when I need to. It may not look good in a relationship coz I am the female part. However, I do not want people to do things for me for courtesy while deep inside they really don't feel like to.

It's a good idea to talk to his ex. But I don't have the number (don't even know her name). I don't think I could ask his son to share the number without letting him know. I once asked the boy one simple question about his mom (her job, I think). The answer is "I don't know". )
- October 5th, 2009, 09:09 am
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scarlet13 wrote :
the fact that a 10 year old is still sleeping in the same bed as his parents is odd.
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Fleuellen wrote :
no it isn't
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I think it is.
If that is what the child needs emotionally then that is what they need!
- October 5th, 2009, 09:10 am
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Dating with kids is hard. I know, I've tried. Between work, home, kids, and activities there isn't much time left to share with anyone else. And good luck having a reliable schedule. Things are always changing. But that's part of having kids. If your boyfriend can't manage his schedule, then he shouldn't be dating. Or, he should limit it to days when he doesn't have his son over. As for the sleeping over part, no one has or ever will stay over at my home when my kids are there. That's not the example I want to set for my kids.
- October 5th, 2009, 09:24 am
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Harvey7 wrote :
The same issue as his son abandonment! Your issue with him is that he does not treat you with love and respect. He has no empathy with your feeling or you.

The difficulty of traveling 140 miles round trip or that you have your own life to live as well and he does nothing to make your life better. Things will not get better by them self over time things will get worse. If you want to speak to his wife pick up the phone and call her, introduce yourself your not a party to their divorce, so she should be rather receptive to a conversation about them and him. Your setting yourself up for a big disappointment with him in the form of heart break.

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Harvey, picking up the phone to speak to his ex-wife is a bad idea. This issue is between the OP and her boyfriend. His ex has nothing to do with it and should not be involved. She's hardly likely to give objective feedback anyway.
- October 5th, 2009, 09:32 am
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He is doing what he feels is best for his son's emotional well being. If you choose to interfer with that YOU ARE HISTORY.
I speak from my own experience of raising three kids on my own. No woman spends the night at my house when the kids are home! I made an acception once and even then I slept on the couch. I will not do that again either as I know it bothered the kids. If distance is an issue get a hotel room.
Addintionally, I have had well intentioned ladies tell me how to raise my kids. They are history.
Appreciate your reply. I had other posts here (replying to others' response) which mentioned clearly that I have never interferenced with his decision on how to bring up his son. Although I studied psychology for kids as a part of my degree, I made it clear to him that this is his son and it would be inappropriate for me to comment on how to bring the kid up even when he asks. The one and only time that I said something was after he had yelled at this kid (right in front of me) for not working hard on canoeing. I talked to him privately that it might hurt the kid by being blamed by his dad with the presence of strangers, esp. his dad's new girlfriend. They spent 30 minutes together and made up. I don't think that you would say, if you were there, that it was your kid and you had the right to scold him whenever and wherever you feel like coz you own him.

In addition, I did not insist on spending the nights over to be with my BF when the kid was around. The first time he told me that I might have to stay in the couch coz he did not want his son to ride with us to drive me back to the parking lot. I told him that I understood it and I would take full responsibilities for my decision of sleeping in the couch.

What surprised me was that he would use this as an excuse that I could not drive over as planned. I met his son on our third date and have been babysitting and going out with them ever since. It was not like it was my first time over and his son would be "shocked" to see a strange woman in his dad's bed. The boy knew I was there on weekends for 8 months. I remember my BF and I were taking a short nap once in the afternoon. The boy ran into the room accidentally (coz he wanted to ask us something about a TV show), said sorry and left right away.

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