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Interesting points but they don't just apply to women and how they sabotage relationships/potential relationships.  #1 - there is a difference between being busy with everyday life and playing hard to get.  A woman had a life (work or home or religious/community activities) before a man came along so she shouldn't have to adjust her schedule to suit a man's schedule; men certainly don't for a woman but expect a woman to understand and accept that or look for someone else.


#2 - excuse me?  Men focus on looks and not personality when deciding who they want to date and certainly whom they want a long-term relationship with including marriage so a woman is free to be just as selective and superficial.  In my religion we are told that one's level of faith is the most important element but that looks are also a factor; problem is men go for the looks above anything else to the extent that they will look outside of the faith just to find the "eye candy".


#3  - this is subject to interpretaton since there are some men that believe that anything a woman says or asks is the start of an argument yet feel that they can say whatever they want and a woman is supposed to keep quiet and hide her frustration. 


#4 - come on now.  If a man doesn't know how to show passion and romance then he needs to be by himself until he gets a clue.  Showing him doesn't help because men without the ability and desire will pull away if a woman gets "too touchy feely".  Heck I was married to one that hated for me to "want him" he claimed it made him feel like  "sex object".  Like huh?  He wasn't that great so he needed some encouragement and okay I needed more just to feel satisfied.


#5 - sometimes you have to cut your loses or for that matter save yourself and keep your self-respect intact.  And depending upon the man you can't just tell him how you feel; not with the incidences of domestic violence rather you have to move on in order to really save yourself.


Overall I dislike these lists that talk about mistakes women make since it implies that women wield all the power in a relationship when it is men that have stolen all the power.  Women do not have to "step and fetch" and stroke a man's ego.  Women are empowered and so their lives (mental nor physical) are dependent upon nor revolve around the presence of a man.

- October 7th, 2009, 07:33 pm
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#6. You betray him and run away from him, based on some fears, and out of refusal to let the fears be corrected truthfully. Then the man ends having been the right one, but   betrayed, because you thought he was the same as the one before him. And you refuse to return to him, anyway for family reasons.

- October 8th, 2009, 12:41 pm
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interesting...

- October 8th, 2009, 04:56 pm
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- October 9th, 2009, 08:10 am
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Four is interesting because there are women who would rather have a guy who has slept with other women to get experience, then a guy who decided to wait for the right girl.  The reality is "Most men are rather inept in the art of intimacy and in truth are hoping to be taught" the browns 2009 EH.  Ladies that is not a good way to measure how good in bed a man is.  Think about it...

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bwr wrote :
You are definitely better off without a guy who is scared of your career.

However, remember relationships are separate and a whole different animal than your career. You will likely turn a guy off if you bring your career to the date. Only talk about your career if you both mutually want to talk about it or if it naturally comes up in the conversation.

I am not scared of anyone and have known just about every type of woman. It is a turn off, though, when they brag about their career and their assertiveness constantly during the date without letting me get a word in edgewise about my career. Self centered, "me, me, me" or "gimme, gimme, gimme" women turn me off.

As an example, early this year I went on a date with a woman who bragged to me how tough and assertive she was as a manager and how she "showed" men. I actually sat there silent for 30 minutes listening to her go on about how tough she thought she was. Then she started bragging about her volunteering with the animal shelter and scolding me about how I should adopt a pet, when in fact I already have a pet if she would have bothered to ask.

A date should be about having fun and getting to know eachother. Family, careers, can wait and be introduced naturally as both people get to know eachother.
Totally agree with your first point, if what I do for a living scares a man off he isn't worth the effort. The rest of your post was interesting as well and I'll file it away for future reference. Not that I'm in a "man dominating" type career, just one that some men seem to be intimidated by.
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I've found women to be quite manipulative and I can often see this when dating. I would say this is the biggest way women sabotage their relationships. That lady who dressed as a man for a few months and did everything men did, without the men knowing she was a female, said after doing the experiment she realised that men were just nicer humans. Sounds convincing coming from a lady. It always amazes me when a woman puts a lovely smile on her face and acts a certain way and then changes when you are not around, a little bit fake ladies. Also, my sister-in-law runs a large cafe and says that it has been good grounds for her to view the habits of the sexes and she believes that women are not as generous as men when it comes to paying the bill. Even amongst themselves they just don't cut it. She said it has emphasized that women just aren't as easy going as men. In my experience I too have found women to not be as nice a men, expecially at work and socialising. Well all I can say is that looks definitely can be deceiving, perhaps it has something to do with the female hormones, who knows?
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I've found SOME women to be quite manipulative and I can often see this when dating. I would say this is the biggest way women sabotage their relationships. That lady who dressed as a man for a few months and did everything men did, without the men knowing she was a female, said after doing the experiment she realised that men were just nicer humans. Sounds convincing coming from a lady. It always amazes me when a woman puts a lovely smile on her face and acts a certain way and then changes when you are not around, a little bit fake ladies. Also, my sister-in-law runs a large cafe and says that it has been good grounds for her to view the habits of the sexes and she believes that women are not as generous as men when it comes to paying the bill. Even amongst themselves they just don't cut it. She said it has emphasized that women just aren't as easy going as men. In my experience I too have found women to not be as nice a men, expecially at work and socialising. Well all I can say is that looks definitely can be deceiving, perhaps it has something to do with the female hormones, who knows?
Fixed that first sentence for you.

I'd fix the rest, but it's really just one huge generalization, compounded by like-minded people who ALSO generalize about women. I guess it's easier than judging each individual on their own merits, but I doubt its accuracy.

Funny, my friends (who are mostly male because of my job) say I'm TOO nice.

Posting massive generalizations about half the population rarely helps.
- November 4th, 2009, 04:33 pm
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chawks64 wrote :
Fixed that first sentence for you.

I'd fix the rest, but it's really just one huge generalization, compounded by like-minded people who ALSO generalize about women. I guess it's easier than judging each individual on their own merits, but I doubt its accuracy.

Funny, my friends (who are mostly male because of my job) say I'm TOO nice.

Posting massive generalizations about half the population rarely helps.
Dang you beat me to it.
- November 4th, 2009, 04:46 pm
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Four is interesting because there are women who would rather have a guy who has slept with other women to get experience, then a guy who decided to wait for the right girl. The reality is "Most men are rather inept in the art of intimacy and in truth are hoping to be taught" the browns 2009 EH. Ladies that is not a good way to measure how good in bed a man is. Think about it...
Oh, wow, finally a guy who isn't on the typical mindset that one has to have 'experience' before he is considered 'date-worthy' or 'husband-worthy'.

Interestingly, I find that women who play 'hard to get' as opposed to actually having certain values of chastity (which playing 'hard to get' implies she has even an iota of self-respect in terms of when to 'put out' in a relationship, a quality which most women these days feign.) are as thin as a French crepe.

I think the number of partners a man has (as in the more the better) isn't as important as his actual personality.
For example - could he have been trying his whole life to sleep around but just failed and 'settled' for you?
Or was he a male slut before he's actually dating you?
To me, its more of his inner self. In the end I don't want a man who has no idea what he wants, no idea of his own principles and values - which is what most men have these days bowing to societal pressure to 'conform' to the culture of sleeping around.
Waiting for the right girl to me signifies a strong, self-disciplined man I can respect who has a good head on his shoulders.
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