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I am new to the advice boards, but here it goes...
I met my current boyfriend on eharm and we have been dating for about 5 months. He's really wonderful, thoughtful and caring. I love to do things for him because he makes it so easy to want to give back. When we first starting seeing each other we had each gone through a bad break-up the previous year. My ex tricked me into believing that he wanted marriage for the entire duration of our relationship of 10 years and still tried to drag his feet..so I cut my loses and left. His ex cheated quite often over 6 years, and eventually decided to "change teams" and date women.

However, after breaking up with him she had to nerve to ask him to stay in the house until her young daughter (that he had helped raise since she was 2) finished the school year. For some insane reason he agreed. By the time we were matched, he was in the process of getting moved out. The child is not his biologically, and her real father was still in her life. Since he moved out, he continues to see her every 3 wks, but since I made it clear on my profile that I did not want to get involved in any baby-mama drama, I have not felt the need to get to know her or meet her.

This is partially because he has told me over and over that if I did not want him to maintain connections with his ex (who treated him so badly, and merely used him as a live-in babysitter) in any way, he would stop seeing them (the child). I told him that I would not make that decision for him and if he truly wanted to move forward with his life, he would make that decision.

The problem is, he tells me he doesn't "need" to have her in his life and that eventually her need for him will fade off. Yet I recently found out that the child and/or mother are not asking for him...he is asking for visits with the child. I really don't see how he expects the little girl to get a chance to move on, if he doesn't give her time or space to do so.

Now every three weeks, he keeps putting pressure on me to meet her and it makes me very uncomfortable and guilty. I asked him if he was afraid to tell me that he really wants to maintain his relationship with the child...but he keeps saying no. He is really confusing me and I can't help but wonder about our future together. Whenever we talk in detail about marriage and kids, this child was never apart of that and I told him this.

Am I reading too much into this or should I be concerned about his inability to move on? Please understand that I have spoken to him many times about this, especially when he keeps asking me to meet her, but his answers clash with his actions. My friends say that we should hold off on future talk until he resolves his issue, I agree...but how long should I wait? Other than this issue, the relationship is great.
- September 23rd, 2009, 07:28 am
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He still has a little fire going for his ex-girlfriend and is using the kid to keep it lit.

Just move on.
- September 23rd, 2009, 07:50 am
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tweet37 wrote :
He still has a little fire going for his ex-girlfriend and is using the kid to keep it lit.

Just move on.
This could be a possibility.. but how does anyone walk away from a child, Whether it is his or not.. He has been in the childs life since she was 2.

I don't think you're looking too much into it.. These are just your concerns. Since the mother isn't really causing any baby mama drama. I really don't see the harm if he is playing a role in the childs life.

Where did the information come from that the child was not asking for him? is it hear say or did it come from the mother? If that is the case..Then he is crossing the line in pursuing a relationship with the child.

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- September 23rd, 2009, 08:13 am
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I agree with CaptCrunch... After six years of being with this kid, it only makes sense that some type of bond has formed for him. Whether or not the child is asking for him, I can not say. It could be his ex telling him that so he will stay away, or if the child has been asking for your current bf, the mother could remain silent on the child's wishes.
- September 23rd, 2009, 08:25 am
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If he helped raised the girl for so many years and was a large part of her life, it's natural that he is attached to her very much. In fact I've heard many times from men who have dated women with children that the reason they will never do it again is because the break up caused massive emotional trauma for the guy about having to cut off the contact with the child.

He may be denying this to you and himself out loud, but his actions show where his heart is regarding the girl. As for his ex, I'm not sure that you necessarily have to worry much about her. Ultimately you are correct that to cut off contact is something that he has to decide to do and not something that you can demand from him.

Honestly though he sounds like a good person. I don't know why you have such an issue with this. To me it would be strange if he did not have an attachment to the girl and did not take an interest in her well being given the years he's been in her life regardless of what happened between him and the mother of the child.

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Tough call all the way around. We are thinking of the little girl, but we also need to be thinking of the two adults who are trying to get on with their future together. This may sound cold, but from a Taurus to a Taurus, I think I would give some serious thought to giving your new man an ultimatum. I know that 2 years of watching a child grow up is not something to be dismissed so readily, but He has to think about whether this is healthy (emotionally) for him or the child. Is he going to be there all the time for the next 20 years of this kids life... not very likely. The ex (mom) is going to move on to another man (or woman ) soon and then she will most likely want him completely out of the picture. I think it would be safer for him to quietly cut the ties while him and the ex are still cordial. As for your relationship with him. Let him know firmly where you are coming from and give him a chance to choose. "baby-mama-drama" or you and the possibility of raising your own kids. Obviously the choice is all yours... but I have been through a lot of ex's/kids/girlfriend circus drama and in the end, your stability and peace of mind are the most important. With him or someone else.
- September 23rd, 2009, 09:25 am
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taurus4ever wrote :
I am new to the advice boards, but here it goes...
I met my current boyfriend on eharm and we have been dating for about 5 months. He's really wonderful, thoughtful and caring. I love to do things for him because he makes it so easy to want to give back. When we first starting seeing each other we had each gone through a bad break-up the previous year. My ex tricked me into believing that he wanted marriage for the entire duration of our relationship of 10 years and still tried to drag his feet..so I cut my loses and left. His ex cheated quite often over 6 years, and eventually decided to "change teams" and date women.

However, after breaking up with him she had to nerve to ask him to stay in the house until her young daughter (that he had helped raise since she was 2) finished the school year. For some insane reason he agreed. By the time we were matched, he was in the process of getting moved out. The child is not his biologically, and her real father was still in her life. Since he moved out, he continues to see her every 3 wks, but since I made it clear on my profile that I did not want to get involved in any baby-mama drama, I have not felt the need to get to know her or meet her.

This is partially because he has told me over and over that if I did not want him to maintain connections with his ex (who treated him so badly, and merely used him as a live-in babysitter) in any way, he would stop seeing them (the child). I told him that I would not make that decision for him and if he truly wanted to move forward with his life, he would make that decision.

The problem is, he tells me he doesn't "need" to have her in his life and that eventually her need for him will fade off. Yet I recently found out that the child and/or mother are not asking for him...he is asking for visits with the child. I really don't see how he expects the little girl to get a chance to move on, if he doesn't give her time or space to do so.

Now every three weeks, he keeps putting pressure on me to meet her and it makes me very uncomfortable and guilty. I asked him if he was afraid to tell me that he really wants to maintain his relationship with the child...but he keeps saying no. He is really confusing me and I can't help but wonder about our future together. Whenever we talk in detail about marriage and kids, this child was never apart of that and I told him this.

Am I reading too much into this or should I be concerned about his inability to move on? Please understand that I have spoken to him many times about this, especially when he keeps asking me to meet her, but his answers clash with his actions. My friends say that we should hold off on future talk until he resolves his issue, I agree...but how long should I wait? Other than this issue, the relationship is great.
I would say that your boyfriends history repeats itself, in the aspect that he chooses cold hearted women! In order for a relationship to work one or both must have some flexibility, you know bend but not break. If you can't bend on a small issue maybe you should move on.

"his ex (who treated him so badly, and merely used him as a live-in babysitter) in any way, he would stop seeing them (the child). I told him that I would not make that decision for him and if he truly wanted to move forward with his life, he would make that decision." As I said maybe you should move on, If he had any nerve he should kick you to the curb your not much different then his Ex.wife.
After 6 years they have built a bond and it would be abandoning her! So I commend him on doing the right thing for her and in spite of his ex and in spite of you!
You give the impression of being selfish and self center or me first?
For him to give up one afternoon a month to spend some quality time with his girl is not really a big deal and you to object to that, shows how small minded that you really are ! Maybe you can learn from the post and maybe you won't learn a thing?

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- September 23rd, 2009, 10:44 am
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i have to agree with Harvey here. He is not doing anything wrong. He formed a bond with the child. This is always going to be a problem for you, so you need to move on to the next relationship. You obviously have a problem with a person forming a bond with a child. Yes, over time he might become more distant with the child. As of right now, he still cares and wants to make sure things are fine. If I dated a woman for years with a kid, I would have formed a special bond with the child. I may not be the father, but I would feel i play an important role in his or her life. I would continue to keep in contact with the child. It is not for me only, but it would be for the child's sake.
- September 23rd, 2009, 11:07 am
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At one time in my past I had a very similar situation. I came to realize that though the little girl wasn't from his blood; it was one in the same. You are going to have to come to grips with either to understand that this child may be very important to him or it could be he's still attached to the child and his past relationship. You have to look and see within yourself if you could live with his ex's child as a part of your life. If not, I'd recommend moving on and moving forward.
- September 23rd, 2009, 11:08 am
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I applaud this man for continuing a relationship with this child whom he has a bond with. You are being unreasonable!!! He is asking you to be a part of something that is important to him you should take this as a compliment that he cares this much for you. If you want this man in your life (he sounds like a great guy) you need to move beyond your selfishness and take part in something that is obviously important to him if not, give him his freedom to continue to a positive role model in this child's life and to find someone who is caring enough to understand. Sorry so harsh but I think you need to here this.
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