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Hi.

I am a 42 year old woman in a relationship with a 48 year old man. We have been dating for about 9 months.

I am noticing he gets "stern" with me about some things. He gets a certain tone of voice that is very serious and irritated and harsh. The last time I saw him, he did this three times. Two times it was over my driving another time it was the table I chose for us to eat at (I had to drive because his car was not working). The first time because I didn't recognize the parking spot he wanted us to have (he didn't tell me to drive down a certain street so I missed the spot). The second time was when I decided to go around the block to park in stead of turn around in the middle of the street. And the last time was when I chose a too small table to eat at (it was outdoors) and he got irritated because I didn't chose the large table (there wasn't enough room for our food). I told him I was trying to be polite with other customers and not take a big table for two people. He said "don't be so polite next time"! even though he is a polite and diplomatic person to the world 98% percent of the time.

When it happened this last time I got very upset...more then ever before. I almost cried with the second one....I told him he stresses me out and shocks me and that I felt like crying. It puts me on edge and makes me tense. I said I had my reasons for going around the block and it wasn't worth it to get angry about it. I told him to get out of the car but he didn't, he said he wanted to continue to shop with me and things died down a bit. We actually had a good time after the initial upset.

Other times in the relationship he has gotten irritated at me for things like this. It's just this last time was more acute. I don't know, it just hurts my heart. I wasn't frightened, and I know he doesn't mean it (I believe it's a habit) but it's upsetting. It shakes me up and ruins the peace. I feel bewildered about it and if we are about to eat, I sometimes lose my appetite because I feel sad.

I am guessing this sounds bad. I have never had a man like this. I do not have a history of controlling men or abuse. In fact, I've always been treated wonderful by men. I have little baggage from my past. He is also an "alpha male". I am wondering if it is coming from this? He runs his own company and is "the boss". He is considered genius, a "mover and a shaker" so maybe that is the cause?

A long time ago, I said "I can't tell if you are really annoyed with me or it's just your style". He said "it's the testosterone speaking".

He doesn't always talk to me like this, just when he is annoyed. He is really loving the rest of the time.

So my question is...since I have never had an alpha male before...could this just be his alpha personality? Or is it something more troubling?

By the way, I am not an alpha female. In the career world he is eons ahead of me, there is no comparison...so I am not used to a man like this. I usually went out with artist types...not business types. I have never gone out with a "business leader" ever before. Totally different.

I spoke to a traditional older woman family friend (in her 80's) and she said I need to relax...he's a man and he wants things done a certain way. It's not personal...just don't take it to heart. She said just let him express how things should be done..and do them if I can. He likes to be efficient. Boy, is she right...that is the basis of his irritation. He feels I am not being efficient.

I really love this man and I am not planning on leaving him. He is exceptional and so special to me for very specific reasons. He is solid and generous...so much good. I love his mind and heart. However, and I hope to God I am wrong, if there is a problem I want to be able to recognize it. But I do hope it's nothing deeper as he is really special to me.

All my friends say he is a great guy, a "catch" and seem to think there is nothing to worry about.

Any thoughts? Am I just dealing with a strong personality or is this a red flag for a controlling man?

I do not know because I do not believe I ever had a controlling man before...so I am not even sure what that would look like.

Thanks in advance
- August 18th, 2009, 05:17 pm
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Some people have the "hot temper" when they get mad....i believe he does have to learn how to approach you when you "irritate" im because if you become closer this will happen more and more.I'd be cautious, and the alpha male story honey....people can use no many excuse to not change their bad behavior, i mean, when you are in a relationship, or any kind of relation you have to respect the other person.If you don't workout the way you deal with problems now, this wil pile up and mostly certain you will be the one to suffer most.
He also must understand he is not your boss, you are in a diferent position, don't humble yourself too much just because he is a genius...who cares?even genius must respect the others!!go girl
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- August 18th, 2009, 05:47 pm
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That is a tough one because it likely won't change. Perhaps therapy could help somewhat but other than that he won't be able to change his personality unless he really wants to & puts a great deal of focus on his reactions.

It is tough to deal with & personally I wouldn't. And I can deal with a lot of issues. That just isn't one of them.

It is really about knowing yourself & knowing what you can & will deal with.
- August 18th, 2009, 05:59 pm
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Since you seem otherwise happy with this guy, your best bet seems to avoid putting yourself in situations where he tends to flip out.
Being irritated is one thing. If he yells at you, calls you names, or ever touches you in anger, that's a different story.
- August 18th, 2009, 06:00 pm
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Hi.

I am a 42 year old woman in a relationship with a 48 year old man. We have been dating for about 9 months.

I am noticing he gets "stern" with me about some things. He gets a certain tone of voice that is very serious and irritated and harsh. The last time I saw him, he did this three times. Two times it was over my driving another time it was the table I chose for us to eat at (I had to drive because his car was not working). The first time because I didn't recognize the parking spot he wanted us to have (he didn't tell me to drive down a certain street so I missed the spot). The second time was when I decided to go around the block to park in stead of turn around in the middle of the street. And the last time was when I chose a too small table to eat at (it was outdoors) and he got irritated because I didn't chose the large table (there wasn't enough room for our food). I told him I was trying to be polite with other customers and not take a big table for two people. He said "don't be so polite next time"! even though he is a polite and diplomatic person to the world 98% percent of the time.

When it happened this last time I got very upset...more then ever before. I almost cried with the second one....I told him he stresses me out and shocks me and that I felt like crying. It puts me on edge and makes me tense. I said I had my reasons for going around the block and it wasn't worth it to get angry about it. I told him to get out of the car but he didn't, he said he wanted to continue to shop with me and things died down a bit. We actually had a good time after the initial upset.

Other times in the relationship he has gotten irritated at me for things like this. It's just this last time was more acute. I don't know, it just hurts my heart. I wasn't frightened, and I know he doesn't mean it (I believe it's a habit) but it's upsetting. It shakes me up and ruins the peace. I feel bewildered about it and if we are about to eat, I sometimes lose my appetite because I feel sad.

I am guessing this sounds bad. I have never had a man like this. I do not have a history of controlling men or abuse. In fact, I've always been treated wonderful by men. I have little baggage from my past. He is also an "alpha male". I am wondering if it is coming from this? He runs his own company and is "the boss". He is considered genius, a "mover and a shaker" so maybe that is the cause?

A long time ago, I said "I can't tell if you are really annoyed with me or it's just your style". He said "it's the testosterone speaking".

He doesn't always talk to me like this, just when he is annoyed. He is really loving the rest of the time.

So my question is...since I have never had an alpha male before...could this just be his alpha personality? Or is it something more troubling?

By the way, I am not an alpha female. In the career world he is eons ahead of me, there is no comparison...so I am not used to a man like this. I usually went out with artist types...not business types. I have never gone out with a "business leader" ever before. Totally different.

I spoke to a traditional older woman family friend (in her 80's) and she said I need to relax...he's a man and he wants things done a certain way. It's not personal...just don't take it to heart. She said just let him express how things should be done..and do them if I can. He likes to be efficient. Boy, is she right...that is the basis of his irritation. He feels I am not being efficient.

I really love this man and I am not planning on leaving him. He is exceptional and so special to me for very specific reasons. He is solid and generous...so much good. I love his mind and heart. However, and I hope to God I am wrong, if there is a problem I want to be able to recognize it. But I do hope it's nothing deeper as he is really special to me.

All my friends say he is a great guy, a "catch" and seem to think there is nothing to worry about.

Any thoughts? Am I just dealing with a strong personality or is this a red flag for a controlling man?

I do not know because I do not believe I ever had a controlling man before...so I am not even sure what that would look like.

Thanks in advance
I have a strong personality and sometimes I find myself wanting to tell others how to do things more efficiently. I do have to step back and realize to myself if it is worth possibly upsetting the other person and how important is it in the scheme of things. Being that you have told him he is upsetting you, I would hope he would try to control this behavior because of his feelings for you. Let me also say though that if it continues to happen on a regular basis, that would be a red flag for me. It starts off by them wanting you to park in a certain place and next thing you know it moves to another area of your life. How critiqued do you want to be? I say become more assertive with him and always let him know when he is doing this behavior to you. If he is not remorseful for his behavior, then I wouldn't want to keep company with him if I were you.
- August 18th, 2009, 06:14 pm
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If he gets upset over little things like a parking spot or a restaurant table, I wonder what he'll be like with something of substance.
- August 18th, 2009, 06:33 pm
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I'd be curious to hear a little more about what you mean by "stern".. So he's upset because you didn't do things HIS way. Are you willing to always do what he wants and deal with his "sternness" every time you do something he doesn't agree with? To me, what he got upset about seems very petty. Now, if you had run over his cat or something....
- August 18th, 2009, 06:37 pm
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I don't like the stern tone - that implies a parent-child relationship to me and not an equal relationship between partners.

I can understand getting irritated with inefficiency - it is one of my pet-peeves but what you posted reminds me of someone and not in a good way.

On the surface, the man it reminds me of seems like a dream (the boy-next door, the perfect husband) but he has some major issues with control and is truly a narcissistic personality (and I don't use that term a lot - actually this is the only person I know that fits this description).

Not saying your guy is like the guy I am thinking of, just something about what you wrote made me think of him.

If you have been in relationships in the past that someone had control of you, I would be cautious and step back emotionally and look at this man in a more objective light.

I wish you well!
- August 18th, 2009, 06:40 pm
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Your description of this man's sudden irritations, your on-edge feelings and walking on eggs round him, and his insistence that it's testosterone!!!! talking...the sudden de-valuation of your company to him...this guy might be a borderline personality.

That's a personality disorder- a major one, and believe me- it is not 'fixable'. Period.

My advise? Get away from this guy, my dear.







Hi.

I am a 42 year old woman in a relationship with a 48 year old man. We have been dating for about 9 months.

I am noticing he gets "stern" with me about some things. He gets a certain tone of voice that is very serious and irritated and harsh. The last time I saw him, he did this three times. Two times it was over my driving another time it was the table I chose for us to eat at (I had to drive because his car was not working). The first time because I didn't recognize the parking spot he wanted us to have (he didn't tell me to drive down a certain street so I missed the spot). The second time was when I decided to go around the block to park in stead of turn around in the middle of the street. And the last time was when I chose a too small table to eat at (it was outdoors) and he got irritated because I didn't chose the large table (there wasn't enough room for our food). I told him I was trying to be polite with other customers and not take a big table for two people. He said "don't be so polite next time"! even though he is a polite and diplomatic person to the world 98% percent of the time.

When it happened this last time I got very upset...more then ever before. I almost cried with the second one....I told him he stresses me out and shocks me and that I felt like crying. It puts me on edge and makes me tense. I said I had my reasons for going around the block and it wasn't worth it to get angry about it. I told him to get out of the car but he didn't, he said he wanted to continue to shop with me and things died down a bit. We actually had a good time after the initial upset.

Other times in the relationship he has gotten irritated at me for things like this. It's just this last time was more acute. I don't know, it just hurts my heart. I wasn't frightened, and I know he doesn't mean it (I believe it's a habit) but it's upsetting. It shakes me up and ruins the peace. I feel bewildered about it and if we are about to eat, I sometimes lose my appetite because I feel sad.

I am guessing this sounds bad. I have never had a man like this. I do not have a history of controlling men or abuse. In fact, I've always been treated wonderful by men. I have little baggage from my past. He is also an "alpha male". I am wondering if it is coming from this? He runs his own company and is "the boss". He is considered genius, a "mover and a shaker" so maybe that is the cause?

A long time ago, I said "I can't tell if you are really annoyed with me or it's just your style". He said "it's the testosterone speaking".

He doesn't always talk to me like this, just when he is annoyed. He is really loving the rest of the time.

So my question is...since I have never had an alpha male before...could this just be his alpha personality? Or is it something more troubling?

By the way, I am not an alpha female. In the career world he is eons ahead of me, there is no comparison...so I am not used to a man like this. I usually went out with artist types...not business types. I have never gone out with a "business leader" ever before. Totally different.

I spoke to a traditional older woman family friend (in her 80's) and she said I need to relax...he's a man and he wants things done a certain way. It's not personal...just don't take it to heart. She said just let him express how things should be done..and do them if I can. He likes to be efficient. Boy, is she right...that is the basis of his irritation. He feels I am not being efficient.

I really love this man and I am not planning on leaving him. He is exceptional and so special to me for very specific reasons. He is solid and generous...so much good. I love his mind and heart. However, and I hope to God I am wrong, if there is a problem I want to be able to recognize it. But I do hope it's nothing deeper as he is really special to me.

All my friends say he is a great guy, a "catch" and seem to think there is nothing to worry about.

Any thoughts? Am I just dealing with a strong personality or is this a red flag for a controlling man?

I do not know because I do not believe I ever had a controlling man before...so I am not even sure what that would look like.

Thanks in advance
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tweet37 wrote :
If he gets upset over little things like a parking spot or a restaurant table, I wonder what he'll be like with something of substance.
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I don't like the stern tone - that implies a parent-child relationship to me and not an equal relationship between partners.
HappyandLight, I don't normally chime in with advice (I manage the Community here) but I feel compelled to reply to your post because it reminds me of a somewhat similar situation from my past and I wish to perhaps spare you the regret I endured as a result of not going with my gut.

I agree 100% with the two posts I quoted above.

This is not the type of thing that gets better with time and as you grow closer with someone - generally these types of things get worse.

If I was in your position, here is what I would do: sit your boyfriend down and explain to him that you appreciate that he has his ideas about how certain things should be done but that you won't always be able (or willing) to do things his way, and that you are not perfect (nor is he). Make sure he knows how it makes you feel when he is "stern" with you (it sounds like: stressed out, belittled...) and that being treated in that manner is unacceptable to you. Finally, make him understand that if the situation does not improve you will need to re-evaluate whether or not you want to continue to grow your relationship.

Remember: no one can make you feel inferior without your consent. People treat us as well (or as poorly) as we expect or allow them to.

I wish you the very best of luck.

Best,
-Lori

P.S. Incidentally, I think it's less about "testosterone" than it is about perhaps a Type-A personality or simply being a high-powered business person / "boss"; I know someone who treats her husband in exactly the same manner and it's NOT a great relationship......I feel badly for him whenever she cuts him down. That's not how people who love each other should treat each other, in my opinion.
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