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happyquestion is offline happyquestion Post #1  July 17,2009, 10:52pm
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This may not be the best description of what I want to ask, but for the lack of better choice of word, I really like some advice/experience from people here about how they restore communication, going back to the smooth running of a relationship if they had some sort of unpleasant break down of communication in their relationship.

If you sense tension in the relationship and no one talks about it and dealing individually as if there was nothing happened, I feel such state of relationship is quite unhealthy. How long do you wait before you approach your partner to bring up the issue, and what if she/he doesn’t want to talk about?

I don’t really like to use the word “fight” in a relationship, as I feel that’s rather immature, like a high school teen way of dealing with issues, but unfortunately the relationship I had with my partner had gone through a few rough patches recently. The latest incident left us not talking for over 2 weeks. Let me clarify the situation a bit. We used to see one another at least weekly and other days we’d definitely talk on the phone almost daily, and always texting everyday. In this latest incident we had some disagreement over our actions and I think she probably thinks that she’s right I’m wrong (again I don’t believe in such black/white style of judging the issue), and she probably thinks that there’s nothing to talk about other than I need to get over my feelings and move on. Whereas I do not feel that we have even begin to sit down and discuss the issue at all, I haven’t even had a chance to tell her how I felt, why I felt the way I do and discuss our difference. Initially I tried to call her and she avoided picking up the phone, when I eventually got hold of her on the phone, we found ourselves busy dealing this other issue – her avoidance of the phone call. I didn’t want to go down another track, still wanting to talk to her about our first issue, but she was busy and ended the conversation with she’ll call me, which never eventuated.

During this period of non-communication all she does is texting me every now and then, asking how my day is etc, but never talks about what happened between us, and no acknowledgement of there’s this issue we haven’t dealt with between us. I’ve been returning her text and asking to arrange to see her, I feel that texting would never be the best way to resolve a relationship issue, neither email, best way would be face to face sit down chat. After two weeks of not seeing each other and all these texting we finally arranged a time this weekend to meet up. She asked me to go dancing as if nothing had happened between us, to which I replied I’d like to have a conversation with her, peaceful not a blaming session, just talk, she immediately canceled the date.

Till this stage I feel completely suffocated due to lack of communication, although we were texting each other everyday, there is no real sharing of feelings and thoughts. In these two weeks my very own feeling towards her and the relationship begin to change due to the continued disappointment that this lack of communication had created. I feel that I’m beginning to feel like giving up and moving on (maybe that’s what she wanted me to do?) but this is such an unhealthy way of ending a relationship. I don’t want to grow apart when the distance between us is clearly building, yet she doesn’t seem to want to come to the table and talk.

I would move on if she had clearly said this is not working for her, and that she’s not willing to give it the relationship anymore commitment. Yet I’m getting a really mixed message that she is texting me daily, the latest date she canceled on me was set up as she was texting me to see if I wanted to ‘catch up’…

I have digressed from my original question. But I’d really like to hear how you heal some of your relationships, what kind of communication level you had after a “fight” and how you build the communication back to ‘normal’. I also appreciate some advice on my situation, perhaps ladies would have better insight in what is going on in a woman’s head I’m very new to eHA, but found this is such a great community where people offer help & support on relationship issues.

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Lack of communications especially after a disagreement is definitely serious. Considering that most women express a desire for good communications it seems your girl has adopted the typical male attitude of "if I don't talk about it then it will go away." I would make one more try to discuss your disagreement. If she refuses or tries to change the subject then I would say good bye and move on. What you are seeing from her actions right now is most likely how she will deal with things in the future. It does not seem that this is how you wish things to be. Good luck
 
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Well there goes the Venus/ Mars theory..........Here it is...women need their "space" to "process" things also... it used to be called "the silent treatment"....She is still very angry with you, but trying to forgive and get over it...hence the mixed messages. You are anxious for her to get over it in a hurry so you feel better that all is smooth again The avoidance is an indicator that something you said or did hurt her and she just doesn't want to go there just yet. Lay off for a while, trust me, she'll bring it up when she is ready, not when you are.
This may not be the best description of what I want to ask, but for the lack of better choice of word, I really like some advice/experience from people here about how they restore communication, going back to the smooth running of a relationship if they had some sort of unpleasant break down of communication in their relationship.

If you sense tension in the relationship and no one talks about it and dealing individually as if there was nothing happened, I feel such state of relationship is quite unhealthy. How long do you wait before you approach your partner to bring up the issue, and what if she/he doesn’t want to talk about?

I don’t really like to use the word “fight” in a relationship, as I feel that’s rather immature, like a high school teen way of dealing with issues, but unfortunately the relationship I had with my partner had gone through a few rough patches recently. The latest incident left us not talking for over 2 weeks. Let me clarify the situation a bit. We used to see one another at least weekly and other days we’d definitely talk on the phone almost daily, and always texting everyday. In this latest incident we had some disagreement over our actions and I think she probably thinks that she’s right I’m wrong (again I don’t believe in such black/white style of judging the issue), and she probably thinks that there’s nothing to talk about other than I need to get over my feelings and move on. Whereas I do not feel that we have even begin to sit down and discuss the issue at all, I haven’t even had a chance to tell her how I felt, why I felt the way I do and discuss our difference. Initially I tried to call her and she avoided picking up the phone, when I eventually got hold of her on the phone, we found ourselves busy dealing this other issue – her avoidance of the phone call. I didn’t want to go down another track, still wanting to talk to her about our first issue, but she was busy and ended the conversation with she’ll call me, which never eventuated.

During this period of non-communication all she does is texting me every now and then, asking how my day is etc, but never talks about what happened between us, and no acknowledgment of there’s this issue we haven’t dealt with between us. I’ve been returning her text and asking to arrange to see her, I feel that texting would never be the best way to resolve a relationship issue, neither email, best way would be face to face sit down chat. After two weeks of not seeing each other and all these texting we finally arranged a time this weekend to meet up. She asked me to go dancing as if nothing had happened between us, to which I replied I’d like to have a conversation with her, peaceful not a blaming session, just talk, she immediately canceled the date.

Till this stage I feel completely suffocated due to lack of communication, although we were texting each other everyday, there is no real sharing of feelings and thoughts. In these two weeks my very own feeling towards her and the relationship begin to change due to the continued disappointment that this lack of communication had created. I feel that I’m beginning to feel like giving up and moving on (maybe that’s what she wanted me to do?) but this is such an unhealthy way of ending a relationship. I don’t want to grow apart when the distance between us is clearly building, yet she doesn’t seem to want to come to the table and talk.

I would move on if she had clearly said this is not working for her, and that she’s not willing to give it the relationship anymore commitment. Yet I’m getting a really mixed message that she is texting me daily, the latest date she canceled on me was set up as she was texting me to see if I wanted to ‘catch up’…

I have digressed from my original question. But I’d really like to hear how you heal some of your relationships, what kind of communication level you had after a “fight” and how you build the communication back to ‘normal’. I also appreciate some advice on my situation, perhaps ladies would have better insight in what is going on in a woman’s head I’m very new to eHA, but found this is such a great community where people offer help & support on relationship issues.

Thanks, HQ.
 
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Lets start with the main problem, which plain and simple is you! Re-read you post and a bell should ring in your head that you do not know how to quantify nor clarify a point of view. Say what you mean and mean what you say!

Example: You know that I'm wild about you? It upsets me that we keep a grudge going for a week or two and ignore it. We need to both make a lists of items that we are unhappy about and also happy about and try to resolve the unhappy ones and build on the happy ones!
No more silent treatment or going home pissed off, OK? If you can resolve your differences go to couple counseling to learn the art of arguing. Good Luck.

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But I’d really like to hear how you heal some of your relationships, what kind of communication level you had after a “fight” and how you build the communication back to ‘normal’.

Thanks, HQ.
Sometimes make-up sex is a good start.
 
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Well there goes the Venus/ Mars theory..........Here it is...women need their "space" to "process" things also... it used to be called "the silent treatment"....She is still very angry with you, but trying to forgive and get over it...hence the mixed messages. You are anxious for her to get over it in a hurry so you feel better that all is smooth again The avoidance is an indicator that something you said or did hurt her and she just doesn't want to go there just yet. Lay off for a while, trust me, she'll bring it up when she is ready, not when you are.

Thank you everyone for your insight. Wiseman, I’ve thought about what you said as well that perhaps she needed time. But wouldn’t you communicate with your partner that “I need time, I’m upset with you or something you’ve said/done”, rather than leaving a no phone call, no talk ‘silence’ for two weeks? In my book a two week period for no talk is a signal of dysfunctional relationship, break down in communication, or is my expectation too high?

I always had given her the benefit of the doubt and don’t want to jump to conclusions as to what she’s thinking/feeling, but how long do I have to wait? This ‘waiting period’ for the ‘silence treatment’ is killing me, I also have a lot of feelings/thoughts bottled up that I need to communicate. And during this waiting period I begin notice how my view toward her ability to communicate and the potential of this relationship start to change. Maybe due to disappointment, or resentment, either way I feel this is very unhealthy for the relationship. Why can’t we as adult just put our feelings on the table, talk about our differences, trying to see it from each other’s pov…

Again I don’t know if I have too high an expectation in how we communicate in a relationship, or this is a reasonable expectation. Hence the OP asking how long do your fight normal last and how long a time period do you give before you talk and resolve the problem?
 
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Each woman is different, but being female, one thing I have noticed is that most women like to talk, talk, talk over a problem and pull it apart and back together before being ready to move on. It is a huge red flag for me that she cancelled your date when you advised you wanted a conversation. It smacks of (on her part) either immaturity or unwillingness to commit to you/your relationship. Usually, if a woman doesn't want to talk about something or feels there is no need to do so; that's what you'll get told.

You could try stopping sending and receiving TXT for the present and trying to schedule time to meet up with her and discuss. Just do it. And yes, you're right - in person.

If I could put it like this, when my male friend is annoyed with me, he doesn't set a 'date' to talk to me about it. He just grabs me for a hot chocolate, we discuss it, and then move on to something else. The only patterns I've noticed is that if we spend 10 minutes discussing his issue, we spend at least 10 minutes immediately afterwards on some other topic interesting to us both. It's never about blaming me and because he doesn't 'set' time to discuss, I have no time to get a huge anxiety build-up.
 
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meri75 wrote :
Each woman is different, but being female, one thing I have noticed is that most women like to talk, talk, talk over a problem and pull it apart and back together before being ready to move on. It is a huge red flag for me that she cancelled your date when you advised you wanted a conversation. It smacks of (on her part) either immaturity or unwillingness to commit to you/your relationship. Usually, if a woman doesn't want to talk about something or feels there is no need to do so; that's what you'll get told.

You could try stopping sending and receiving TXT for the present and trying to schedule time to meet up with her and discuss. Just do it. And yes, you're right - in person.

If I could put it like this, when my male friend is annoyed with me, he doesn't set a 'date' to talk to me about it. He just grabs me for a hot chocolate, we discuss it, and then move on to something else. The only patterns I've noticed is that if we spend 10 minutes discussing his issue, we spend at least 10 minutes immediately afterwards on some other topic interesting to us both. It's never about blaming me and because he doesn't 'set' time to discuss, I have no time to get a huge anxiety build-up.
Awesome, meri!
 
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tweet37 wrote :
Sometimes make-up sex is a good start.
I'm finding this advice somewhat appealing... and I almost find myself agreeing with the bird. But I would make it the celebratory conclusion rather than a start.

You need to resolve conflict first.
You are both still hurting over the "fight" and both communicating your feelings to each other, but in an ineffective manner, which only creates more hurt feelings on both sides.

Before you implement Tweet's wise advice, start with a Platonic hug, look at each other and remember what brought you two together in the first place, put your little "fight" into perspective of your overall relationship. Then sit down and talk calmly - no accusations or blame. Explain to her what it was that caused your hurt feelings and how you would prefer tsimilar issues to be handled in the future. Ask her to do the same.

Arguments and disagreements are natural, they even happen in the best of relationships. Both parties need to cool off for a couple of hours to gain perspective and to avoid temperamental blow ups. But leaving it too long will usually result in a feeling that the other partner does not care enough and fester resentment - never a good foundation for a healthy relationship.

Someone needs to make the first move. You appear to be the better verbal communicator in your relationship, so I suggest you do that. But please remove hurt feelings when you first approach her, do so with love, care and a genuine smile on your face. Tell her how much you care about her, before you explain carefully that is partially the reason of why her actions and/or reactions hurt.

Then, once you've rached some sort of a consensus and understanding on this issue, and discussed preferred future conflict resolution techniques, you should follow Tweet's advice

Good luck!
 
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thanks for the kind wisdom! really appreciated. things have progressed, however i somehow think it is beginning to coming to an end.

Today she cancelled another date. And all these is done via texting, she wouldn't pick up the phone had i called. I texted back and told her how i felt over issues, her answer was I'm too intense at the moment which scares her off, she's not in the mood for any conversation. It really hurt to see her insensitivity towards how i feel. I've waited over two weeks (thinking it would give her enough time to talk), yet she still don't want to discuss things. I then sent a long text told her things i would rather tell her in person, over a conversation. No blaming there, I was very sensitive of not to pointing fingers and just stating how things made me feel and how doubts over the relationship or lack of interest in mending our communication is eating my confidence away.

When she finally responded, she said she needed time to think about it and get back to me, she doesn't know if she can give me the time i need, and how things is different to before, how i wasn't happy with what she can offer. She said she needed time to think.

When woman send such message, are they really saying they no longer interested and asking me to move on? At the moment i'm very confused to be able to decipher what she really try to say.

Any ladies, would this be the way you gently tell your partner let's end the relationship?
 
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