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LOVE is a VERB!
 
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IcecreamMoon wrote :
I think it's both, actually.

According to my own personal and yet to be published disctionary, Love is defined as a feeling opposite of Hate.
Here's another perspective Moon. Love and Hate are partner emotions. The OPPOSITE of love and hate is INDIFFERENCE.

You have an equally strong emotional attachment to a person you love or a person you hate. Both demonstrate an emotional attachment; an opposite attachment, but an attachment nonetheless.

With indifference, you are not bound emotionally at all--an excellent state to achieve with someone whom you may have a strong dislike for.

Just food for thought! (chocolate flavored )
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WYskywatcher wrote :
Love and Hate are partner emotions at opposite ends of the spectrum. The OPPOSITE of love and hate is INDIFFERENCE.
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Just food for thought! (chocolate flavored )

Can I please have a little bit more food to think over (nutty flavors mixed with a drizzle of alcohol are my favorite )
 
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IcecreamMoon wrote :
Can I please have a little bit more food to think over (nutty flavors mixed with a drizzle of alcohol are my favorite )
Fixed it for you Moon. Is that better? I'm throwing in some homemade coconut icecream with nuts and hot honey drizzled over top (your choice of alcohol). (This is really good with fried bananas....a staple at my favorite Thai restaurant!) YUMMY!!

(Read in another post today that you do NOT like honey...hmmm....how about hot caramel instead?)
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jayjay wrote :
I have to agree. While I think there is value in making a 'decision' to be commited to a relationship...if a woman didn't 'feel' love for me I'd tell her we should end the relationship.
And this type of mindset leads to the majority of divorces in America. Of course love is a feeling, but ultimately it is a decision to stick through no matter what.
 
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WYskywatcher wrote :
Fixed it for you Moon. Is that better? I'm throwing in some homemade coconut icecream with nuts and hot honey drizzled over top (your choice of alcohol). (This is really good with fried bananas....a staple at my favorite Thai restaurant!) YUMMY!!
Umm...May I have a big scope too please? Actually, make that two!
 
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Love is more than a feeling...it's a spirit.

It lives in your heart, connects you to others, makes you empathize and feel compassion for others.

Love makes a strong bond. It makes life worth-while. Love is the greatest gift of all. It destroys hate and makes the hardest of hearts melt.

If only we had more of it in the world...how even more amazing life would be.
 
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jacsmit wrote :
There are a few opposing views here that are all probably correct to some degree / in their own way - and you're just arguing semantics because terms aren't being defined. IMO, love is both - or more specifically, something like falling "in love" is a feeling, but choosing to see the good in someone, accept them for who they are, contribute to their growth/well-being, etc - is a loving way to be (ie. decision). As people pointed out, there are different types of love - for parents, siblings, friends, partners, etc. And there are different aspects/expressions of love: a crush, lust, etc.
I agree. Love is both a feeling and a decision. And probably a lot more as well. It is both verb and noun.

We are emotional, spiritual, physical and rational beings. Why would love, which is so integral to who we are and what we want out of life, only touch one aspect of who we are?

For those of you who find the decision definition grating, think about love and sex. Sometimes you love someone and want to have sex, ie. a feeling. Sometimes you feel distant from your loved one and don't really desire them. But you might think "I do love them, but feel disconnected from them right now. Love has just become a routine." You don't have the feeling. But you can decide to take an action, have sex (or make love if you prefer in this context) and the result is often stronger feelings for them. In which case the rational part of you has made a decision for the emotional and physical benefit of both you and your partner.

Basically, I believe a relationship that lacks the ability to love another in rational, spiritual, physical and emotional levels is going to suffer. Some days you will need one level to sustain the relationship, some days another. You are a whole person, you need a whole love.
 
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librarybabe wrote :
Basically, I believe a relationship that lacks the ability to love another in rational, spiritual, physical and emotional levels is going to suffer. Some days you will need one level to sustain the relationship, some days another. You are a whole person, you need a whole love.
Very well said!
 
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I have to disagree with those who say that love is a verb. In my experience this view is an excuse for an endless list of expectations from your partner. It is a narcissistic view of love. "If you love me you will do all these things for me to make me happy". It's also a recipe to make your partner miserable. Lastly, it denies your own responsibility for your happiness.

Love is first and foremost a noun:

1 a (1): strong affection for another arising out of kinship or personal ties (2): attraction based on sexual desire : affection and tenderness felt by lovers (3): affection based on admiration, benevolence, or common interests b: an assurance of love
2: warm attachment, enthusiasm, or devotion
3 a: the object of attachment, devotion, or admiration b (1): a beloved person : darling —often used as a term of endearment (2)British —used as an informal term of address

The transitive verb is simply the act of experiencing the noun - not the acts you perform because you feel love for someone. If you want someone to love you because you think they are going to "do" lots of stuff for you, you have a wrongheaded view of relationships and it is unlikely you will ever be happy.

Of course, all of this makes it unlikely that love can be a choice in all but the most self-deluded of circumstances.
My initial reaction to your post was 'Wow, what an incredibly twisted way of seeing things". For me, when I define love as being a verb, I'm generally thinking of what it's like when I love - i.e. unless I'm acting in a loving way, I don't feel like I truly love that person. It's not about what they do for me, but what I do for them. It never occurred to me to expect the other person to any specific things for me. To me it's all about personal responsibility for the way I behave, rather than believing that some vague 'feeling' is enough.

But in a way I guess I do have certain expectations of the other person.

If someone says they love me, yet they continually lie, cheat, or abuse me, then I don;t care if they have the strongest feeling of love imaginable - that feeling means squat.

Ultimately, saying that love is just a feeling is the a greater abdication of personal responsiblity than is saying it's a verb. If love is just a feeling, you can take a passive role. If you define it as a verb, you have to take action.
 
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