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LOL! Bandmate, you can vent any time you would like.

There's nothing wrong with wanting a woman who cares about what she looks like. I do hope that you find what you're looking for.

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- July 4th, 2009, 05:51 pm
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- July 5th, 2009, 12:44 am
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Let me try another point of view, from the childless male, 40 perspective.


I have dated a number of women with children over the years. The issues which have come up are not as centered on x'es as much as you hear on this subject. But, what has come up is, what I like to call, 'crowding out.' I'm in a very demanding career field and require a partner who is very committed to me and can give me plenty of time and attention. With children as part of the recipe, it makes it a far greater challenge, and, perhaps in my case, unrealistic.


I'm involved with a woman now who has two children, one has reached majority, the other will in a year. They are nearly raised and it does make it easier. But, still, her attention is siphoned away, texting her kids it all times of the day/night, emergency and issues do pop up and as much as she says she is portable to move crosscountry, all she and her kids know is this region of the country. Although she is probably the 'best candidate' in this category I've found, even with her kids 'out of the house' and her more 'free,' there is the issue that she would go through parenthood with me as 'been there/done that.' Well, this would be a first run for me, and I want to experience it with someone on my level and not as a second run.


More common, however, is the single mom with much younger kids, and these issues are magnified. One previous relationship I was in, she had kindergarten early elementary school age children. She would often use her kids as a weapon for argument constantly. I was always called on to do something or something was expected of me, she couldn't possibly do it, because 'she had kids.' She could take a business trip, but couldn't take one with me because 'she had kids.'


To the OP, this isn't going to be politically correct or maybe popular with many. For all the positives we can put on dating single moms, and I've had a little better experience than some of what I've heard, there is REALITY too. All things being equal and on balance, you will not enjoy the same flexibility with dating as your childless counterparts. Although few will admit it publicly, even with the pool of men who are very accepting of single moms, when given the choice of similar women, a childless partner will usually win out. That may not be as true with older men, say over 50, matched with single moms of children over 18, but it is with men in their 30's and early 40's. To accept that, admit it, will make your dating life far easier to manage.
- July 7th, 2009, 04:25 am
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I would say to hang in there as there are bound to be men with kids that are searching for someone like you. Have you searched for local groups of single parents with children? Usually the larger churches would know or have such a group. These groups could be just what you are looking for as there would be others dealing with your problem. Good luck
- July 7th, 2009, 09:26 am
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Let me try another point of view, from the childless male, 40 perspective.

Although she is probably the 'best candidate' in this category I've found, even with her kids 'out of the house' and her more 'free,' there is the issue that she would go through parenthood with me as 'been there/done that.' Well, this would be a first run for me, and I want to experience it with someone on my level and not as a second run.
At nearly 32 (and not a mother yet), I have given men, who have children, a chance as well. What it comes down to, though, is chemistry and compatibility. If I had truly been compatible with any of the single fathers I've dated, I would have taken a chance.

Simply put, they just weren't right for me, but it had nothing to do with them being single fathers.

With that said, if given the choice, I would prefer to experience pregnancy, childbirth, and all of the ups and downs of parenthood, with someone who's going through it for the first time, as well.

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- July 7th, 2009, 05:45 pm
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I would say to hang in there as there are bound to be men with kids that are searching for someone like you. Have you searched for local groups of single parents with children? Usually the larger churches would know or have such a group. These groups could be just what you are looking for as there would be others dealing with your problem. Good luck
This sounds like very sound advice. In my own case, I found it easier to date single dads when my daughter was younger (almost married one of them). She's 18 now and I'm engaged to another "empty nester", but I certainly don't think that everyone needs to wait that long!
Enjoy the kids and hang in there. Best of luck!
- July 7th, 2009, 07:50 pm
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I am a single mom of two,i dated guys that liked kids,they didnt work out,but not because of my kids.My father and my brother dated women with kids.Dont give up,keep trying you w ill find at the right time.They must except your kids,or there gone.Many guys do except women wi th kids,its harder,but they a re o ut there.Wait patiently.
- July 8th, 2009, 04:18 pm
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Great post thread!

MY three cents: I'm a single mother (have been since my son was 1) and I have a great job, good benefits, and I own a very pleasant home. My son went to private schools and we lack for nothing BUT a father-figure. (His dad is a no-show; yes we were married)..so what do I do?

I asked my brothers and my brothers' girlfriends and their friends who KNOW me and my son for a few introductions. NOT for dating per se..but like during a BBQ or get-together so as to minimize the pressure. The guys even get to meet my son (now 14 and extremely mature ).

I have had good luck with this technique and have made new friends as well. The men that have asked me out did NOT do it at the BBQ- they asked my brother or his wife or whoever introduced us. I have to say- when men are able to SEE that I have a house of my own, an income that matches theirs, that my son is properly raised, that I am presentable looking- the whole stigma around single mommy-hood goes away. The guys can see me for WHO I am- not WHAT I am. Frankly though?- isnt that the challenge ALL of us face in one way or another? Who here just blindly accepts other people- especially those of us with kids: be honest: if a guy was interested in you told you he was a recovering addict or alcoholic- would you give him a chance?

What about the guy who has major medical problems? Would you give him a chance? ..I dated a guy with a defibrillator and a pacer implant for three years ..he was a great guy, but other women were too freaked out by the hardware under his skin!

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DIVISION wrote :

Why did you consider this before when you were having kids?

Did it ever occur to you that most men don't want to raise other men's kids, and that's why they date single women?
Division, you must be so perfect, always made the right decisions, right? Otherwise, you wouldn't be such a jerk answering this post. She has three kids that i know she's not sorry for. Possibly not a place you've been before but some of us had been happy/ content once in life that having many kids made perfect sense. I think if you already have issues you shouldnt attempt to give advice.
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I believe if it were meant to be, you will meet the right someone. Yes, it is a lot more difficult than a single woman with no ties but do not despair, keep faith. I don't think you should limit yourself to men with children only because that's a different headache all in itself-example children beakering if you too become serious etc. The best thing to do is delay introducing your children to anyone, in the mean time always bring up your children in conversation in order to observe the level of interest he takes or does he just try to change the subject. See if he frequently asks about your kids without you bringing them up; if dating for a while see if he asks about meeting them. If none of these are present, then probably not the right person for you. Good luck with your search! You deserve to be happy, dont settle for less, the safety and happiness of your children depend on it.
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