After physical violence, is ending the relationship the only way out?


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wordwoman is offline wordwoman Post #11  April 24,2009, 7:45am
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DDjr,591715 wrote :

In answer to your general question about the perpetrator:


In general someone who commits domestic violence grew up in an environment of violence. They were physically abused or at a minimum saw their parents commiting violence against each other. (In one direction or the other or both)


For someone like this the chance of recovery is small. It takes years and years of intensive thepary and dedication by the person.


(Not "blaming") Usually the spouse of the abuser is also an abuse victim and grew up with this kind of violence. That's why the spouses keep going back and back and back. They are wired to believe that the abusive relationship is NORMAL.


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In your particular situation, it sounds like you have anger issues (for whatever reason) and lost your temper once.


The first thing I would do is really reevaluate your feelings about your current relationship. Why were you so on edge that you could be so set off? (It could be a bad week at work, but what you need to ask yourself is: Was my anger really a sign of deep disquiet with this relationship?)


Second, you need to get into anger management immediately. You need to explore why you didn't effectively deal with you anger so that you can prevent it from happening again. You need to do this regardless of whether this relationship continues.
I agree with DDjr.


OP, your first priority is to get some good professional help for yourself ASAP. If the relationship survives depends on all sorts of stuff, including how therapy goes. But honestly,the odds aren't in your favor. Why? IMO, abusive behavior has been a standard in this relationship for some time, if not from day one, and now it is escalating into the physical realm, and it has finally caught the OP's attention.What do I mean? Constant rude comments by the BF to his GF is verbal abuse, and just because he didn't strike the first blow doesn't mean he's not abusive. Verbal abuse,quite frankly, is often more insidious and isjust as destructive has a slap, a fist or shove. Both partners are victims and abusers and it is a tough, tough road to forgiveness and healing.


 
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As a nurse who has treated victims of physical abuse and as a friend to a victim of physical abuseI find it hard to offer you any encouragement. Since youare in the medical field you should know all too well what the potential for escalation is. If you truly want to salvage this relationship then either enroll in anger management courses or get treatment through a pschologist now. If your partner sees that you are trying to take care of this behavior then he might be more willing tostick around. Good Luck
 
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It seems that you want him to apologize so it will absolve you of your guilt? He tries being sarcastic with you and you don't know how to respond, but why do you think that is? Maybe you have some early age issues that have to be dealt with and your blaming him rather then ecepting your own guilt.


Deal with your own issues first then invite him to join you for some couples counseling. You could send him a boxing glove and tell him that your sorry and see what happens. Good luck,





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It isn't only his choice to end it with you. You have the choice of ending the relationship for both of your sakes. Either way I would definitely try to communicate with him your feelings of shame/regret etc. and that you are truly sorry, I wouldn't ask him to please come back to you. It isn't healthy, allow him to come to his own terms about it without any prompting or leading from you, even though it may not be your intent, it is a way of setting a trap.


Why did you fight so much? Maybe you two were just not meant to be. And you are right, you need councelling. In conflict resolution and how to communicate effectively in a relationship as well as anger management.


I know this might sound odd to some who don't know anything about it, but Chinese Medicine/acupuncture may help you. I'm currently studying it and anger/irritability issues are not JUST emotional issues, they are affected by the state of our bodies. If you can bring your body into balance, regulating your emotions will be easier. It is a vicious cycle of course so you definitely need to deal with the psychological aspects. But give it a thought. Why do you think it isso easy for you to blow up?


 
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also the book


You can heal your life by Louis Hay is excellent and I would recomment it to EVERYONE! Its mostly about physical ailments that are the result of such emotions as you have mentioned but the end result would be the same.
 
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In the case of a domestic violence, our hearts always go out for the victim (typically a woman), and believe that she should leave the perpetrator ASAP. Have we ever tried to put ourselves in the perpetrador's shoes to think about the mixed feelings that he might possibly go through - the guilt, shame, sadness, and heartbreak. We extend help for the victim, little do we believe that the perpetrator also needs desperate help.


Some people do sympathize with the "perpetrator". Not me!!!! I don't care what has happened in his life to make him abusive. I'm sorry if he had an awful upbringing and experienced trauma and abuse, himself. That is sad but it doesn't change the fact that he is hurting others.


And many abusers do experience shame, guilt, sadness, genuineremorse, etc. But guess what?It doesn't stop them from abusing again and again and again.So they can take their guilt and choke on it, for all I care.


Do they need help? Of course they do. But most of them do not rehabilitate well at all. And I'm certainly not going to waste my time trying tohelp someone make somebig, new, elusivebreakthrough. Regardless of what has happened in his life... he has no right to hurt others.


The very fact thathe is even capable of abuse isa HEEYOOGE problem. I've got no patience, sympathy whatsoever. Is that fair of me? Perhaps not. But that's how I feel/think.


I've never been involved with an abusive man... but I know women who have. I cannot begin to understand why these women stay with such men. Don't get me wrong... I know all the "reasons", "explanations", "theories", etc., etc., etc. And some people have tried to tell me that I can't say, for certain, that it will never happen to me. WRONG! Oh, yes I can. It never has... and that has not beenby some random stroke of luck. It has been by choice. And taking good care of myself will always be my choice.


Nope. Sorry. Call me cold. But I have no desire to put myself in his shoes.His shoes are much too tainted for me.
 
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Men are taught (or should be) from little boys not to hit girls. For a man to strike or verbally abuse a woman in anger is unacceptable. On the flip side, women shouldn't try to take advantage of that by throwing things or otherwise going nuts because you know we won't haul off and smack you.


For male abusers, "Because my Dad beat my Mom" is no excuse. As an adult, you should know right from wrong.


To the OP, your anger comes from somewhere. If you don't seek help to figure things out, no relationship will work for you. Good luck.
 
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There is a difference between domesticviolence, ie. battering/ intimate partnerviolence and domestic assault. Let me explain! Domestic violence was originally a term used to describe battering. Now, and especially in the media, the term domestic violence is used to descibe any violence between household members.


Battering is typically found in intimate relationships where ONE person uses abusive tactics to GAIN POWER AND CONTROL OVER THEIR PARTNER. Such tactics ususally start with emotional/ mental abuse and isolation. For example, s/he may start criticizing what the partner is saying, how s/he is acting, dressing, behaving, etc. Many times, such criticism is justified by the perpetrator through'declaring love and need'. For exmaple: "I don't want you to wear that because I can't stand it if other men/ women look at you. I just love you so much, it drives me crazy." Isolation goes hand in hand with that. For exmaple:"You shouldn't hang out with...., s/he is a bad influence on you/ does drugs/ sleeps around, etc." In addition, minimizing a partner's feelings/ concerns, controlling the combined finances without agreement; not taking responsibility for one's own actions, blaming, denying, etc.ie. "You made me do it; If you just didn't ...- than I wouldn't have to..." Physical abuse, stalking, coercion/ threats, rape, etc. are some othe tactics to instill fear and excert/ keep control. For those interested, google: Power and Control Wheel. And Equality Wheel.


The difference, although sometimes a fine line in terms of differentiating between the two, is the overall intent. Are you seeking to control him and display harmful behaviors AS A PATTERN? Is he afraid of your temper/emotional/ physical safety?Does he try to please you to avoid another blow-up? The main question when determining domestic violence is: "WHO IS THE PRIMARY AGRESSOR AND HOLDS THE POWER IN THE RELATIONSHIP?


Alice, I cannot be clear enough when I say, according to what you have written, you got a huge problem and only you can address that. Nothing, and let be be loud and clear with you - NOTHING ever justifies for you to physically assault your partner. It is not my intent, not place, to judge you, but I can tell you from many years of professional knowledge and experience, that you have crossed a threshold, that once it is crossed, is difficult, if not impossible to reverse.


In terms of helping perpetrators of violence, I do want to comend you in taking responsibility and being accountale for your actions. That in itself is difficult and I'm glad that you have reached out. I also applaud youfor recognizing that you need to seek help for yourself and not for the purpose of saving your relationship. That takes courage!


What you need to understand is that your behavior is LEARNED!Although youassert that you were not abused as a child, somewhere along the way you were taught that 'the behavior' you have engaged in, is okay. There could be many reasons and without knowing more, I hate to speculate. I do believe strongly that your partner has some issues to deal with as well, if he treats you with disrespect, but it is up to him to decide whether or not he wants to deal with that, or if he wants to change. You cannot change him, nor do you have the right to force that on him. You do however have the option of leaving, as he does (hopefully).


Alice, I can tell you that everyone has the ability to change. You can learn new tools to more safey and constuctively express your feelings. But understand that this will take time - perhaps years! People do not become who they are in a week and neither can they achieve permanent self-change in seven days. If you truly want to make a difference in your life, be prepared for some intense work, but also know that it'll be well worth it in the long run.


The last thing that I want to say to you is please make sure that you do not bring a child into this world under these conditions. Heal yourself first, and as far as your partner is concerned, from what you have written, you both have issues that you need to work on individually and out of free will. As far as getting back together, I think you know what to do.


Best wishes to both of you individually!


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I agree with Haz, completely. Unless people who abuse receive very specialized treatment, they will continue to repeat thecycle of abuseover and over again, from relationship to relationship. Unfortunately, it's the abuser's distorted thinking, denial, minimization, andinability to take responsibility for their actions that typically hinders them from choosing to get help. Consiously or unconsiously, they have a history of chalking their problems up to "relationship" problems. However, abuse isNEVER a couples problem. The abuser needs very individual, specific help to overcome their need for power and control, as well asto learn healthier ways of relating to people. When a relationship ends, the thinking of the abuser is usually that they just haven't found the "right" person. Theyjust aren't able to look at themselvesand realize that they are the common denominator in each of their unhealthy relationships. Sad, indeed.
 
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