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Met Brooke on eHarmony a few weeks back. We txt a few times a week and go out on weekends. Both in education and in our early 30's so we have always had a lot to talk about. We kiss eachother at the beginning and end of each date since the third. We just had our fifth date on Friday where I invited her over and cooked a nice three course chicken dinner. She enjoyed the meal watched a little TV and said she wanted to leave at 12:00 cause she lives about an hour a way.





I can say I am truly confused. Granted I didn't expect sex or anything, but making out or something would had been a nice progression. I did not want to force or put any pressure on her, so I made only slight moves and jestures on Friday. Think she is playing it safe? Can't be waiting for me. I did invite her over, cook a complete meal, etc. We also connect on many different levels. I am seeing her Wednesday after school. I was going to say where are we going from here, but not sure if it is to soon or me being overly agressive. Don't want to ruin it, but confused by her actions. Or lack there of.
 
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First off if you are expecting sex just because you made her dinner forget guy, your expectations are those of a teenager or young adult. I did not have sex with the girl I dated untilalmost three months down the road. I did not kiss her until the third date but that kiss was a long slow hot one.


In my opinion she is taking it slow. You might try holding hands more and hugging. Girls really like hugging or putting their heads on a man's shoulder. Then take it from there. Good Luck.
 
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I said I was not expecting sex, just a little more intimate time together. I did not offer for her to stay over as I thought that was way too forward and may be interpreted wrongly. I have a small condo. One room and couch. I would had thought it would be just interpreted to her as I was just looking for sex and nothing else. I have no prblem of taking it slow. And normally I would just let the woman decide. I have not made any agressive moves on her. But I do not want her to loose interest either. I also do not want to look like I am not sexuality ttracted to her in her mind because I am taking more of a layed back approach in the intimate dept. Except for hugging, kissing at the beginning and end of the date, and holding hands I am not really being forward on anything else. Since I do not read minds it is hard to know what she really thinks. I also think bringing this up at date six could bring up a problem. So essentially I am lost.
 
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I said I was not expecting sex, just a little more intimate time together. I did not offer for her to stay over as I thought that was way too forward and may be interpreted wrongly. I have a small condo. One room and couch. I would had thought it would be just interpreted to her as I was just looking for sex and nothing else. I have no prblem of taking it slow. And normally I would just let the woman decide. I have not made any agressive moves on her. But I do not want her to loose interest either. I also do not want to look like I am not sexuality ttracted to her in her mind because I am taking more of a layed back approach in the intimate dept. Except for hugging, kissing at the beginning and end of the date, and holding hands I am not really being forward on anything else. Since I do not read minds it is hard to know what she really thinks. I also think bringing this up at date six could bring up a problem. So essentially I am lost.
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Take it from a girl who sounds very much like her (at least on the surface)--she's taking it slow.


I takea while to warm up to being physically affectionate with someone--and by that I mean kissing. It's not that I'm not attracted to them, it's just that it takes time for meto be comfortable with the idea. I am very flirty and sensual, but I'm not in the habit of making out with people I barely know--a 5th date isn't that much of a milestone. I'm sure I've frustrated many men along the way, but that's how I am. I am able to show interest in other ways.


The second (and last) person I met on eHeventually became my BF. It tookme four dates beforeI even kissed him. And I didn't have sex with him until three months later, after we established that we were in a monogamous relationship. I was very appreciatiave of the fact that he was patient, and respectful and did not pressure me in any way.


If you feel she's into you regardless of the lack of additional physical intimacy, then give her time, and continue being as thoughtful and as gracious as you have been. It'll become clear soon enough--and great things come to those who wait
 
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mimijiminy, during those three months, were both of you just dating eachother or did you date others as well? I have no problem waiting, just wish she would give me some idea of what she's thinking inside?
 
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BigDug, wrote :

Met Brooke on eHarmony a few weeks back. We txt a few times a week and go out on weekends. Both in education and in our early 30's so we have always had a lot to talk about. We kiss eachother at the beginning and end of each date since the third. We just had our fifth date on Friday where I invited her over and cooked a nice three course chicken dinner. She enjoyed the meal watched a little TV and said she wanted to leave at 12:00 cause she lives about an hour a way.





I can say I am truly confused. Granted I didn't expect sex or anything, but making out or something would had been a nice progression. I did not want to force or put any pressure on her, so I made only slight moves and jestures on Friday. Think she is playing it safe? Can't be waiting for me. I did invite her over, cook a complete meal, etc. We also connect on many different levels. I am seeing her Wednesday after school. I was going to say where are we going from here, but not sure if it is to soon or me being overly agressive. Don't want to ruin it, but confused by her actions. Or lack there of.
I agree with Angelofmerci . . . if your agenda was to invite her to your house to escalate your physical relationship by trying to seduce her with slaving over a hot stove and expecting she'd connect the dots, then the communication here is that you're not doing it just to "be" with her and she may have sensed that and that's why she didn't act on it. The communication is you're doing all these nice things not because you simply enjoy her company, but you expect her to "put out".


If you want to move to the next level with her, simply tell her it's something you want to do with her and see if she's agreeable. Then set up a romantic evening with her if she agrees. If she's not and says she's simply not ready yet or she simply wants to be friends, you have the choice of waiting until she' feels comfortable, remaining friends and mvoing on to someone else.


I went out with a guy on a 4th date who took me to this really fancy restaurant and the theatre and as we were walking into the theatre, he started talking about what we were going to do when we got back to his place and it wasn't playing monopoly and I told him I wasn't ready to do that and he got upset because he said hespent all this money and at least expected me to spend the night. I took a taxi home. I was very insulted and this scenario you're explaining is somewhat similar.
 
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BigDug, wrote :


Met Brooke on eHarmony a few weeks back. We txt a few times a week and go out on weekends. Both in education and in our early 30's so we have always had a lot to talk about. We kiss eachother at the beginning and end of each date since the third. We just had our fifth date on Friday where I invited her over and cooked a nice three course chicken dinner. She enjoyed the meal watched a little TV and said she wanted to leave at 12:00 cause she lives about an hour a way.





I can say I am truly confused. Granted I didn't expect sex or anything, but making out or something would had been a nice progression. I did not want to force or put any pressure on her, so I made only slight moves and jestures on Friday. Think she is playing it safe? Can't be waiting for me. I did invite her over, cook a complete meal, etc. We also connect on many different levels. I am seeing her Wednesday after school. I was going to say where are we going from here, but not sure if it is to soon or me being overly agressive. Don't want to ruin it, but confused by her actions. Or lack there of.


I agree with Angelofmerci . . . if your agenda was to invite her to your house to escalate your physical relationship by trying to seduce her with slaving over a hot stove and expecting she'd connect the dots, then the communication here is that you're not doing it just to "be" with her and she may have sensed that and that's why she didn't act on it. The communication is you're doing all these nice things not because you simply enjoy her company, but you expect her to "put out".


If you want to move to the next level with her, simply tell her it's something you want to do with her and see if she's agreeable. Then set up a romantic evening with her if she agrees. If she's not and says she's simply not ready yet or she simply wants to be friends, you have the choice of waiting until she' feels comfortable, remaining friends and mvoing on to someone else.


I went out with a guy on a 4th date who took me to this really fancy restaurant and the theatre and as we were walking into the theatre, he started talking about what we were going to do when we got back to his place and it wasn't playing monopoly and I told him I wasn't ready to do that and he got upset because he said hespent all this money and at least expected me to spend the night. I took a taxi home. I was very insulted and this scenario you're explaining is somewhat similar.
I did it not for that reason. I did it to change the routine around. All we've been doing is going to dinner. I guess I could have suggested a movie or a football game. Thought this would be more of a surprise. You know, he can cook and he took the time to make the meal. I do appreciate Brooke's company but would be happier if she was more affectionate. Doesn't mean sex. Means what it means. I didn't put on any movies or pressure and let the time go by effortlessly. Don't get the wrong intention as that was not where I was leading. I can wait as long as she needs. Some hints on how she is feeling towards me would be what I am looking for.
 
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I think Mimi's advice is pretty good ...take it slow, work on the relationship and emotional connection first, expect a few months to pass before moving to that next level. If she's kissing you, it's likely she hasn't friendzoned you and you can at least gather that whatever her intentions are, they are romantic and not platonic.


With that said, you can probably "up your game" a little bit. Never underestimate the power of a simple touch. Holding hands is great, but it's not the end-all-be-all. There are hundreds of ways to touch a woman non-aggressively, but with intimacy. Do a google search for "kino" (Kinaesthetics) touch. It's a popular and very effective seduction concept thatshows you are interested romantically and sexually, without just walking up to her and grabbing two handfuls of ta-tas. =)
 
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mimijiminy, during those three months, were both of you just dating eachother or did you date others as well? I have no problem waiting, just wish she would give me some idea of what she's thinking inside?
No, neither of us were dating other people--just each other, even though we didn't have the relationship talk until later, as I posted earlier.


BigDug: Trust your gut and don't fret! If you feel she's not leading you on, then just give her a chance to reconcile what she's feeling and open up to you. Having said that, she may not really know what she's feeling at this point, and may just be enjoying the moment. That doesn't mean she's not sincere--she just doesn't rush into things.


As an example, there are times when I feel all sorts of things--overwhelmed even--whether it be joy, sadness, butterflies, or that "in love feeling"--but I don't necessarily express it until I feel ready to come out of my shell. And the more you push me, the more I retreat.


Look for non-verbal signs, and you'll find out soon enough what her deal is. And most importantly, stop questioning it, and spinning your wheels, and making a mountain out of not even a molehill. These are the best times in a budding romance and I'd hate to see you sabotage it for want of "clarity" she may not be able to give you right now.


Enjoy your time spent together! By the way, is she a Cancerian?!


 
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Nope, she was born in May.
 
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