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I met my best friend several years ago and along the way I fell head over heels in love with her. The problem is, she is in a relationship and they have a 1 year baby. When we first met, she had just ended her relationship. We never dated, but felt a very strong mutual attraction. However, she soon found out that she was pregnant. It happend the last night they were together. Still she didn't think he would want anything to do with it so our feeling or at least mine continued to grow. Well, boyfriend decided he wanted to be in the picture and my friend went back to him, against the advice of most of her family and friends. She had been married and divorced twice before and has a child from each marrage, She really wanted a shot at being with the father of at least one of her children.


I kind of understood that, but still thought their relationship would never last. I still believe it is doomed to fail at some point but she keeps giving him 1 last chance after 1 last chance.


Our friendship continued and I even got to like the boyfriend as a friend but still feel they are not right for each other. I think she is just as dangerous to him as he is to her. I tried to tell myself, that I wanted her in my life in what ever possible so I accepted the friendship only.


After about a 1 1/2 years of this, I finally told her how I felt. It was during one of their many fights, he went out drinking or probably more and probably with other women. I explained that I loved her and really had since the very beginning and thatI thought she must have known that since almost everyone else who every saw us together figured it out. I also told her that I loved her son as if he were my own and it would be an honor to help her raise him if the BF continued to flake out. She acknowledged that she supected and her boyfriend probably did to, but when she decided to go back to her boyfriend, she wouldn't let herself look at me as anything other than a friend, albiet the best friend she has ever had, eventually I have become the dreaded Big Brother. Even her son knows me as "Uncle".


The friendship went on pretty much as if that conversation never took place, although I am a little more open about my feelings than in the past. However, I know it makes her uncomfortable. I also know her sister pretty well and and she tells to hang on. That she really does love me. In fact when they are together I'm just about the only thing she talks about, even if the boyfriend is present. It's just that she feels that she hasn't been a good mother to her older kids, she doesn't have custody of them but that's another issue, and really wants to be with the baby's father even if she's unhappy in the relationship. Her sister says she will eventually figure ou that is not the best thing for any of them.


I just don't think I can wait anymore and it breaks my heart to see them together and do nothing but fight and argue. They both really deserve better, they just bring out the worst in each other. Each time she takes him back for 1 last chance it just kills me. There isn't anyone else in my life right now except for my children, who also adore her. I have attempted a couple of other relationships over the past couple of years. One was on off again on again thing that never really had a chance to being anything serious, but she got mad and walked out because I was living in a fantasy, one-sided love affair.


That hurt, but I knew it was true. I eventually met someone who might have had some potential at a serious relationship, but I broke it off before it went very far. I was really afraid of it ended like the last one and she didn't deserve that. It was simply that I wasn't able to being in a relationship with anyone with my feelings the way they are.


So, here I am, I know I need to more on, but I don't know how. The thought of walking away and ending contact with her and her son (I really do care a great deal for him) is even more painfull then when my 20 year marriage came to an end. What do I tell her, I can't be your friend anymore because you won't leave boyfriend for me? I know ending our friendship will be hard on her too and she really hasn't done anything but tell me she can only be friends with me. Where do I go from here?
 
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I met my best friend several years ago and along the way I fell head over heels in love with her. The problem is, she is in a relationship and they have a 1 year baby. When we first met, she had just ended her relationship. We never dated, but felt a very strong mutual attraction. However, she soon found out that she was pregnant. It happend the last night they were together. Still she didn't think he would want anything to do with it so our feeling or at least mine continued to grow. Well, boyfriend decided he wanted to be in the picture and my friend went back to him, against the advice of most of her family and friends. She had been married and divorced twice before and has a child from each marrage, She really wanted a shot at being with the father of at least one of her children.


I kind of understood that, but still thought their relationship would never last. I still believe it is doomed to fail at some point but she keeps giving him 1 last chance after 1 last chance.


Our friendship continued and I even got to like the boyfriend as a friend but still feel they are not right for each other. I think she is just as dangerous to him as he is to her. I tried to tell myself, that I wanted her in my life in what ever possible so I accepted the friendship only.


After about a 1 1/2 years of this, I finally told her how I felt. It was during one of their many fights, he went out drinking or probably more and probably with other women. I explained that I loved her and really had since the very beginning and thatI thought she must have known that since almost everyone else who every saw us together figured it out. I also told her that I loved her son as if he were my own and it would be an honor to help her raise him if the BF continued to flake out. She acknowledged that she supected and her boyfriend probably did to, but when she decided to go back to her boyfriend, she wouldn't let herself look at me as anything other than a friend, albiet the best friend she has ever had, eventually I have become the dreaded Big Brother. Even her son knows me as "Uncle".


The friendship went on pretty much as if that conversation never took place, although I am a little more open about my feelings than in the past. However, I know it makes her uncomfortable. I also know her sister pretty well and and she tells to hang on. That she really does love me. In fact when they are together I'm just about the only thing she talks about, even if the boyfriend is present. It's just that she feels that she hasn't been a good mother to her older kids, she doesn't have custody of them but that's another issue, and really wants to be with the baby's father even if she's unhappy in the relationship. Her sister says she will eventually figure ou that is not the best thing for any of them.


I just don't think I can wait anymore and it breaks my heart to see them together and do nothing but fight and argue. They both really deserve better, they just bring out the worst in each other. Each time she takes him back for 1 last chance it just kills me. There isn't anyone else in my life right now except for my children, who also adore her. I have attempted a couple of other relationships over the past couple of years. One was on off again on again thing that never really had a chance to being anything serious, but she got mad and walked out because I was living in a fantasy, one-sided love affair.


That hurt, but I knew it was true. I eventually met someone who might have had some potential at a serious relationship, but I broke it off before it went very far. I was really afraid of it ended like the last one and she didn't deserve that. It was simply that I wasn't able to being in a relationship with anyone with my feelings the way they are.


So, here I am, I know I need to more on, but I don't know how. The thought of walking away and ending contact with her and her son (I really do care a great deal for him) is even more painfull then when my 20 year marriage came to an end. What do I tell her, I can't be your friend anymore because you won't leave boyfriend for me? I know ending our friendship will be hard on her too and she really hasn't done anything but tell me she can only be friends with me. Where do I go from here?
First of all, you have no control over this 'freind's' decision to stay with the guy she's with. End of story. Whatever love lost issues you have at this point, you need to work out on your own and trying too hard to make another relationship work at this point is out of pure desperation because you haven't resolved this at all. It will just hurt the other person and put you in a position of feeling like you're failing.


So, that being said, stop lurking around this woman and deliberately stop communicating with her or seeingher on any level because all it does is remind you of what you can't have (and is probably no good for you to begin with) and causes too much chaos and resentment from her and her boyfriend.


Regardless of how you feel, the reality is you need to move on and to do that you need to get back into your life and go through the grief and stop avoiding it. Stop living in hope that this will shift. Even if it does, you have no idea the nightmare you're bringing on, so let it go. It hurts like hell, but let it go. This woman has some major issues you don't even want to get close to.


Get involved in other social groups and meeting other people and don't get involved with anyone until you're clear that you're over this and can actually put your energy into allowing someone else into your life, because it isn't fair to the other woman to live with what is haunting you.
 
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Not meaning to sound harsh....but....if you are in fact good friends, and it sure sounds like she needs one.... why not put on your be a man hat....suck it up....be a stable friend in what sounds like a very unstable world. You cannot change or save her....she has to do that herself. A true friend would not give an ultimatum like this even though I'm sure it hurts emotionally to deal with the facts as they exist. You mention the ties between her son and you....thatmay come back to haunt youlater in life if you choose the all or nothing path


So you took the leap and stated your feelings. She now knows. And by doing this you now have to live up to being that upright person you want to be. That means getting on with your life and showing her thatin fact you are indeed the stuff that real men are all about. She will either continue in what sounds like a very messy lifestyle, or one day have a serious encounter with maturity. If she chooses messy life it's not a place you want to be. If she grows out of messy lifestyle and decides you might have been the right person for her all along great. Make sure messy life is really over


Youwonder how is it possible to remain just friends .... not sure how old your children are but if still at home start there. Your children are the reason you wake up in the morning...not her. If your kids are grown go out and become a big brother , volunteer at a soup kitchen one night a week , do something that makes you feel good about yourself. Focus on your own integrity and something good will come of it....dont worry about what that might be. Sometimes God has a plan in mind and sometimes it's a bit painful getting there





 
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I don't know, i'll have to disagree. The more you try to change things the more they stay the same. The more you try to show her you are the one for her, the more she will reject you and look elsewhere. If it is killing you to stay around her then why do it? The only thing you are accomplishing by staying around to pick up the pieces whenever she has a fight with her BF is to enable her to stay with him and keep fighting. How many times do you have to hear the phrase " You never know what you've lost until it's gone." before you believe it? If you were gone and not there for her enabling, she might come to realize just what you mean to her - what she had and then lost. Or she could continue on to self destruction with her self defeating relationships. But you have to worry about your mental health and your life also. You are no good to anyone if you drown while saving the drowning, or save those not wanting or ready to be saved.. So for your own sanity and ultimately maybe hers, you have to bow out. It may hurt, but you are hurting pretty bad the other way too. But at least this way you will be able to move on after a little healing of your heart.
 
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I don't want to end the friendship and I wouldn't even consider it if I knew how to maintain it and move on with my life at the same time. Several of my friends have also advised me it's time to move on. As Altair say, I might be doing her more harm by always being there when she needs me.


I want to be there for her and her son but I don't want my continued support to in any way prevent her from ending her relationship with the boyfriend, if it has already. Also, I have been single for a long time now and I want someone in my life. Some one I can openly love and get the same in return. If it could be her, I'd be in heaven. But, having tried to have relationships in the past, I know it isn't possible for me and isn't fair to any possible girlfriend to have a relationship when I'm so consumed by her.
 
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Right! So don't be consumed. Fight that fire by dousing it. Realize that you may never be the one in her eyes. She seems to have a certain mindset as to what she is looking for, right or wrong. You are being attracted to something you can't have and it's drawing you in like a moth to the flame. You are just a crutch to her, nothing more. Time to lift your eyes, look straight ahead, and move on, the sooner the better. For pain will not cease until you remove the source of the pain. You can't always save someone from the quicksand and mire they have gotten them self into, but no use being dragged down yourself. It's sad when someone you care about is falling and you can't save them. You just have to know when to cut the line so you aren't pulled off too.
 
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She's with another guy. Suck it up and move on.
 
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I met my best friend several years ago and along the way I fell head over heels in love with her. The problem is, she is in a relationship and they have a 1 year baby. When we first met, she had just ended her relationship. We never dated, but felt a very strong mutual attraction. However, she soon found out that she was pregnant. It happend the last night they were together. Still she didn't think he would want anything to do with it so our feeling or at least mine continued to grow. Well, boyfriend decided he wanted to be in the picture and my friend went back to him, against the advice of most of her family and friends. She had been married and divorced twice before and has a child from each marrage, She really wanted a shot at being with the father of at least one of her children.


I kind of understood that, but still thought their relationship would never last. I still believe it is doomed to fail at some point but she keeps giving him 1 last chance after 1 last chance.


Our friendship continued and I even got to like the boyfriend as a friend but still feel they are not right for each other. I think she is just as dangerous to him as he is to her. I tried to tell myself, that I wanted her in my life in what ever possible so I accepted the friendship only.


After about a 1 1/2 years of this, I finally told her how I felt. It was during one of their many fights, he went out drinking or probably more and probably with other women. I explained that I loved her and really had since the very beginning and thatI thought she must have known that since almost everyone else who every saw us together figured it out. I also told her that I loved her son as if he were my own and it would be an honor to help her raise him if the BF continued to flake out. She acknowledged that she supected and her boyfriend probably did to, but when she decided to go back to her boyfriend, she wouldn't let herself look at me as anything other than a friend, albiet the best friend she has ever had, eventually I have become the dreaded Big Brother. Even her son knows me as "Uncle".


The friendship went on pretty much as if that conversation never took place, although I am a little more open about my feelings than in the past. However, I know it makes her uncomfortable. I also know her sister pretty well and and she tells to hang on. That she really does love me. In fact when they are together I'm just about the only thing she talks about, even if the boyfriend is present. It's just that she feels that she hasn't been a good mother to her older kids, she doesn't have custody of them but that's another issue, and really wants to be with the baby's father even if she's unhappy in the relationship. Her sister says she will eventually figure ou that is not the best thing for any of them.


I just don't think I can wait anymore and it breaks my heart to see them together and do nothing but fight and argue. They both really deserve better, they just bring out the worst in each other. Each time she takes him back for 1 last chance it just kills me. There isn't anyone else in my life right now except for my children, who also adore her. I have attempted a couple of other relationships over the past couple of years. One was on off again on again thing that never really had a chance to being anything serious, but she got mad and walked out because I was living in a fantasy, one-sided love affair.


That hurt, but I knew it was true. I eventually met someone who might have had some potential at a serious relationship, but I broke it off before it went very far. I was really afraid of it ended like the last one and she didn't deserve that. It was simply that I wasn't able to being in a relationship with anyone with my feelings the way they are.


So, here I am, I know I need to more on, but I don't know how. The thought of walking away and ending contact with her and her son (I really do care a great deal for him) is even more painfull then when my 20 year marriage came to an end. What do I tell her, I can't be your friend anymore because you won't leave boyfriend for me? I know ending our friendship will be hard on her too and she really hasn't done anything but tell me she can only be friends with me. Where do I go from here?
Man, this story belongs in the "friend-zone" hall of fame! I can see why she loved having you around. Did you clean their house and cook their meals, too?


She sees you as a friend. That's it! There's nothing else! I apologize if this comes across as harsh, but how obvious does it have to be made for you?
 
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You need to find enough self-respect to walk away from her. You'll feel a lot better when you do. If you are capable of loving her as much as you say, you can love someone else just as much. Even if your dream came true and she suddenly wanted to only be with you, she is not emotionally stable and has serious issues of her own. Do you really want to be with someone like this? Ultimately, I think not.


Remove yourself from this situation, and find someone else. In time, you'll find you are far better off.
 
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#1 this woman does not have a good track record with previous relationships.


#2 She is still not married to the baby's father and their relationship is troubled


#3 She views you as a good friend and her baby knows you by the name "uncle"


#4 She only looks at you as a friend and when you "share" your feelings it makes her uncomfortable.


I don't see how you are going to move out of the friendship zone with this woman. I wouldn't listen to her sister and hang in there. Do you really want to be more involved with this woman's problems and maybe ending being one of them? Do yourself a favor and break contact with her. If she comes running to you (and I'm not talking about for advice or shelter from her troubled relationship with her BF) then maybe she does care for you too. Otherwise you are becoming more committed to a relationship that is not existant. The longer you have a vested interest in her in this way the longer it will take you to get over her. How much are you willing to hurt before enough is enough?
 
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