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I just heard that an ex BF and 20 yr. long timefriend married a women that he spent a few weeks getting to know who is :


a) is forty years his junior


b) is living outside of the country with many obstacles involving bribery to obtain a visa to allow entrance to the US


c) does not speak more than a dozen words of English


But> she is SMART, OLD FASHIONED, SWEET


If I follow the paradigm I should be dating a swift 12 year old in at Eton. Am I missing something here or is this the cynasism of maturity ?


Do we go through some kind of chemical change that renders us completely stupid and prone to brain death through flattery ?


- December 30th, 2008, 11:32 pm
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somehow i knew the answer to this before i clicked on it. to be perfectly frank, i dont think ANYONE except maybe another twelve-year old should date some one at that age, and even then, it's hardly 'dating' in a mature sense of the word. same goes for any of the teen years, and ofcourse kids might disagree but that just too bad. they don't know what's good for them at that age. heck, i'm 20, and i dont know half the time and i'll admit it. but those are really impressionable years, and reguardless of any personality attributes of someone that age, its against the law, and for very good reason. maybe im misinterpeting something here, but itsounds to me like:


1. she's under 18 and therefore its wrong.
2. she's bribing her way into the the country, presumibly because shes underage? also wrong.
3. unless he speaks he language, i don't even know how they'd know each others intentions. so i'll deem that wrong too just to complete the set and make it three stirkes against it.


to be honest, there isn't one bit of this that doesn't result in jail time on one,deffinately, if not both parts, in my mind. correct me where i'm wrong, as its way late/early in the morning and i've not slept yet so i might not be grasping what your saying at all haha. assuming she is of age, i guess is her choice, albeit hasty and almost assuredly a bad one.
- January 4th, 2009, 08:18 am
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I just heard that an ex BF and 20 yr. long timefriend married a women that he spent a few weeks getting to know who is :


a) is forty years his junior


b) is living outside of the country with many obstacles involving bribery to obtain a visa to allow entrance to the US


c) does not speak more than a dozen words of English


But> she is SMART, OLD FASHIONED, SWEET


If I follow the paradigm I should be dating a swift 12 year old in at Eton. Am I missing something here or is this the cynasism of maturity ?


Do we go through some kind of chemical change that renders us completely stupid and prone to brain death through flattery ?

If he's happy what does it matter? I had a male friend that married a mail-order bride from Russia...and he's African American!


To each his/her own I say. As long as your friend is not breaking any laws, let him be happy.


- January 4th, 2009, 09:05 am
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somehow i knew the answer to this before i clicked on it. to be perfectly frank, i dont think ANYONE except maybe another twelve-year old should date some one at that age, and even then, it's hardly 'dating' in a mature sense of the word. same goes for any of the teen years, and ofcourse kids might disagree but that just too bad. they don't know what's good for them at that age. heck, i'm 20, and i dont know half the time and i'll admit it. but those are really impressionable years, and reguardless of any personality attributes of someone that age, its against the law, and for very good reason. maybe im misinterpeting something here, but itsounds to me like:


1. she's under 18 and therefore its wrong.
2. she's bribing her way into the the country, presumibly because shes underage? also wrong.
3. unless he speaks he language, i don't even know how they'd know each others intentions. so i'll deem that wrong too just to complete the set and make it three stirkes against it.


to be honest, there isn't one bit of this that doesn't result in jail time on one,deffinately, if not both parts, in my mind. correct me where i'm wrong, as its way late/early in the morning and i've not slept yet so i might not be grasping what your saying at all haha. assuming she is of age, i guess is her choice, albeit hasty and almost assuredly a bad one.
Yes, you are misinterpreting, no 12 year olds are involved....that was sarcasm.


The important info is the 40 years his junior. She is 20 or so.


The OP is saying that a person 40 years her junior would be 12 years old.
- January 4th, 2009, 09:05 am
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gottcha' sorry, long night. well, if its all legal its fine, but it still seems a bit hasty to me.. and the biggest problem in age i see is the difference in what people seem to really want. but if they're on the same page, then good for them. true love doesnt happen nearly often enough, and i supposrt anyone who may have found it. i just hope they're both in it for the same and right reasons.
- January 4th, 2009, 10:05 am
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It sounds like you're not over him...and you should be by now.


But, to address the specific issue, the problem I see in relationships like this is the disparity in power, experience, and options. Sometimes, May/December romances are made for good, sound reasons. A lot of times, however, it has to do with creating an unbalanced dynamic where the older partner, male or female, has more power in the relationship.


My concern with that is the motivation behind choosing a partner...choosing someone who is not your equal and who doesn't have the social/education skills and advantages to really make a true choice. The relationship may appear mutually beneficial, but it is more of a mutually parasitic situation. If he encourages her personal growth, that's one thing. If the success of the relationship depends on her staying in a less-advantaged position, that's problematic.


There's an interesting documentary called Cowboy del Amour about an American man who married a woman from Mexico because he was tired of the attitude of American women. He brought her here when she spoke no English, had no friends, and no work skills. As she began to grow as a person, he protested...didn't want her to learn English, didn't want her to have activities outside of taking care of him. She eventually left him. Now he brokers deals for other American men looking for the same thing...but his own experience proves the dynamic is a problematic one.


If your primary purpose in choosing a partner is to gratify your own needs at the expense of limiting another person's growth, I would take issue. There are those who will say that she is free to choose and that she gets something out of it that is beneficial to her. That may or may not be true. There are also those who say that all prostitutes make the choice to do what they do, but the truth is a bit more complicated.


- January 4th, 2009, 10:08 am
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Sounds like one of those Philippine brides. These girls are in their 20's and are looking for men in their 50's. You wonder what their agenda is and if they are just looking for a way into the US. Life must be hard in the Philippines if they are willing to marry an older guy or they are wanting to be taken care of. But as long as men continue to want younger women it will enable it all.
- January 4th, 2009, 10:16 am
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[my first post disappeared into the eHA black hole...so reposting]


The issue, as I see it, is one of disparity in power, experience, and options.


There are May/December romances that are made for good, sound reasons. However, if the success of the relationship depends on keeping one partner in a disadvantaged position of limited personal growth, that's problematic. While the situation might be viewed as mutually advantageous, I would view it more as mutually parasitic.


There's an interesting documentary called Cowboy del Amour about an American man who, tired of the attitudes of American women, got himself a Mexican bride. She came here without English language skills, without friends, and without the ability to support herself financially. He opposed her learning English, opposed her engaging in any activity that was not about taking care of him, and eventually, as she grew as a person and had more choices available to her, she left him. He now brokers deals for other men looking for non-American brides.


And that's the bottom line for me. If the success of the relationship depends on one person being kept limited in choices and personal growth so that the other person's needs are met, I would view it as problematic. There are those who will say that her choice is freely made. There are also those who argue that pro stitutes choose what they do. The truth is more complicated.


And no, what's happening is not illegal and they have every right to do it. The question of ethics is a bit trickier, but still theirs to sort out.
- January 4th, 2009, 10:23 am
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