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I would break up with a 30 year old if I came to know that she is a virgin. Sorry, but I want a good sex life and someone without experience need not apply. It's not like I am dating 16 year olds. At 30 one should have slept with many of the opposite gender.
- September 26th, 2008, 01:28 pm
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I would break up with a 30 year old if I came to know that she is a virgin. Sorry, but I want a good sex life and someone without experience need not apply. It's not like I am dating 16 year olds. At 30 one should have slept with many of the opposite gender.
But if you have experience and she does not you would have the pleasure of teaching her to have sex just the way you like it. After all, she would never know that your sexual quirks are just that your sexual quirks. She would think that everyone...
- September 26th, 2008, 01:33 pm
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I am not into running a school for perverts.
- September 26th, 2008, 01:39 pm
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I am not into running a school for perverts.
This all depends on the nature of your sexual quirks.
- September 26th, 2008, 01:42 pm
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The entire band playing together ..........


............ isn't this what sex is all about? Isn't it about two people playing together in the same room? Why would you want to do it on your own?


If you want to practice your instrument on your own, there are things such as solo performances at concert halls - hardly the same as intimacy between two people in the bedroom.
Yes it is, but if you don't know the rules of the game first, how can you play properly and would anyone want to play with you if you have no technique and you don't know the composition you're trying to play? Many musicians have lost a gig coming to a rehearsal ill-prepared, not having looked at the music ahead of time.


The analogy with the band is not aboutpracticing your instrument in order to learn how to play it. It was about getting a new piece of music and studying it and becoming familiar with it so when you do meet up with the rest of the musicans you are able to play with some degree of knowlegebecause you have familiarized yourself with the music before hand. Even a soloist in a concert hall would learn more than his solo if he is backed by an orchestra, after all he'd have to know when to come in and play. So he'd study his music ahead of time to make sure he didn't mess up his solo.


Nobody is saying for him to do it on his own. All I'm saying is if this guy knows absolutely nothing about $ex he can learn the basics at least on his own if hewantsso that when he does meet up with his SO he'll have an idea of how things work instead of not knowing anything at all.


- September 26th, 2008, 02:19 pm
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HurrMark, I wish you well in your dating endeavors and I'm glad to hear that you are going to keep trying.


It seems to me in your post here that now that things didn't work out with this woman, you are lookiing for ways to devalue her. i.e. "you weren't sold on her until a few days ago", the fact that she broke up with you because you told her you were a virgin makes her out to be a bad person".


It could just be none of those things. Just as you prefer to remain inexperienced and unwilling to acquire the knowledge of what it takes to please a woman in bed, perhaps this woman prefers not to be with a guy who chooses to be that way. That's her right and she doesn't have to be a negative person because of that. Maybe she wants her experience in physical intimacy to be enjoyable and feels that a guy who does not know anything about that won't be enjoyable for her. For a woman it can be a painful and unpleasant ordeal if a guy doesn't know what he is doing.


You said that this exact same thing happened to you last year in your first relationship. The woman broke up with you because of your inexperience. You seem to be choosing women who want a man with experience. Some women, even those who are inexperienced themselves would want a partner they can be assured will please them $exually and initiate them into a physical intimacy with knowledge, care and love. I would imagine no woman would want a man who knows absolutely nothing about $ex because that can possibly make it painful, embarrasing and unenjoyable. (Not always but sometimes it can). I'm sure you would want your first time to be something that you will remember with intimacy and enjoyment as well as love and I would think you'd want your partner to experience this as well.


There is nothing enjoyable about being with someone intimately and they don't know what they are doing. Personally I get turned off if a guy can't kiss correctly even after I show them, and they still kiss like they're trolling for tonsils or trying to drown me in saliva, I'm not interested. This tells me that the guy will be a selfish lover and unwilling to take my feelings and body into consideration.


You wear your virgin mantle proudly but so far you don't seem to be getting much joy out of it. It's ok to be a virgin, but you don't have to remain in the dark in acquiring the knowlege of how to make love to a woman. There are far too many instructional books, manuals and videos for you not to at least know basic technique.


If I met a guy and he said he was a virgin, I'd be fine with that. If I met a guy who didn't know how to please me $exually and that includes not even knowing how to kiss and refusiing to learn better techniques that's a complete turnoff. Nor am I interested in schooling a guy in that way from scratch, he's got to at least have some basic knowlege. I would derrive no $exual pleasure from that experience. Some women would, I wouldn't. It's not so much your being a virgin that is the issue as everyone starts off that way, it's the fact that you seem unwilling to gain the knowlege about $exual techniques.


You don't have to give up your virginity to learn the techniques. Learning the techniques will probably give you more confidence. You also don't have to announce it like a placard. Just meet the woman and hopefully the relationship will progress to the point where you're both ready to share each other in that regard. Then when you meet that woman and you know what you are doing, you will please her so well and make your first time experience as well as her "first time" being with you so enjoyable that after, when you tell her you were a virgin, she will be pleasantly surprised. She'll probably think, "Darn, if he's that good and it's only his first time, things will only get better in that area.
I appreciate your advice. However, there are a couple of things I want to point out. First of all, I am not "proud" to be a virgin. It bothers me to no end that I am at this stage of my life and still have not had the opportunity to have truly intimate relations. I am also not "preferring" to remain inexperienced. I want to know...but like most things in my life, I can't learn something until I actually "do" something. And that includes $ex. I don't know if I can just watch a video and know everything there is to know.


Now, I have had some experience with the woman's body...in my last relationship we actually did do everything except $ex itself. So I am not totally unfamililar with being intimate to some degree. Here is what happened with my new ex: last Thursday she wanted to hold a "training session", which was very vague in its description. Essentially, all she did was take off her shirt. I had no idea what she wanted, and probably didn't do what she hoped I would do. That made her disappointed, and that changed everything 180 degrees. And that is why I'm where I am now.
- September 26th, 2008, 04:16 pm
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Another thing regarding disclosure of my virginity. She knew about this for almost two months. Actually, she kind of backed me into a corner...we were in the car and she was telling me a story of some sexual encounters she saw in the past, and I was very quiet. She wondered why I didn't react, and I made a BS story. Then, she asked "Don't tell me you're a virgin". I had to admit it at that point.
- September 26th, 2008, 04:19 pm
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HurrMark, wrote :

I had a bad feeling this was going to happen, but it happened. She is breaking up with me. The reason? I am a 30 year old virgin who is unfamiliar with what to do with a woman in bed. This is killing me to no end...not just the breakup but the fact that if this is how women are, I might as well never even try again. It's heartbreaking to so many degrees, and shows that I will never have luck with relationships ever. I curse my Asperger's Syndrome and everything about it. ;-(
I can kind of relate to how you feel. I'm a virgin to and I've had guys get mad, try to convince, or even break up with me in order for me to change my mind. Its hard and it sucks, no doubt about it, but that just shows what petty people they are. Not all women are like that, and if thats the way she chose to behave that just means something better is coming around the corner. Of course you will have luck with relationships, as long as you are yourself and treat a woman right.
- September 26th, 2008, 04:41 pm
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Sorry for answering for you Priestess - it was the thread on "Do Men Need Porn?"or something like that. I can't remember now exactly where it is.


Last count is 122 pages in "Porn Really Necessary for a Man?" under the catagory DATING.
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- September 26th, 2008, 05:18 pm
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Now if the guy thought that being a virgin made him some sort of a hero or a moral champion, then, I would most likely dorp him.


What if he told you it was because he raised in the jungle by apes since he was an infant and never met a woman before you?


Now, why would Abnoba be wondering around the jungle alone?


Maybe he got lost on the way to the zoo.


Well, after all, it is only one step from the jungle to the zoo....





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- September 26th, 2008, 05:22 pm
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