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Great article - I have recently been talking to and spending time my "ex" again, although I really hate using this term.(It holds such a negative connotation.)Even after 2 years of being apart, I never stopped loving him,but for practical purposes only, we will say "ex". Anwyay, while us being apartmay have been goodin some ways,I feel we broke up for less than reasonable reasons and for reasons stated in this article.


Our biggest problem was that he didn't want to spend as much time with me as I wantedor do a lot of the things I wanted to do.Really, it's nota terrible problem to have though... someone loving another person so much that they want to spend as much time with them as possible. And, on the other end, I could have been more creative and patient. It was more about him than it was me, and I shouldn't have taken it so personally. In retrospect, the fact that I love, trust and respect him more than anyone else I've ever known (and I'm 30 now) is much more important that a relatively small issue that could have been worked though had we communicated a bit more effectively.


It is too soon to tell if we will enter back into a committed relationship or "end up together", but I have every hope we could, and I'm simplygratefulto be givena second chance.


Thanks for writing this article. I hope it will help someone else not make the samemistake that I made and had to learn the hard way.
Good luck, it sounds like you have deep heartfelt feelings for the "ex". Speaking of ex's,a comedian (whose name I forgot) summed it up best... "getting back with an ex is like sour milk, you take it out of the fridge, take a wiff, see that it's spoiled, shrug and put it backhoping thatit may be better tomorrow". That's not verbatim, but you get the jist of it. Usually a person is an ex for a reason.
- September 24th, 2008, 02:22 pm
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If have a reputation as a bit of a heartbreaker, you're probably ending relationships for the wrong reasons. After all, not every bad day has to spell the end and not every problem is insurmountable. Wondering if you're throwing in the towel too soon? Check out 8 bad reasons to break up.


Any of these reasons that go too far could break up a relationship. Chronic fighting without resolution, infidelity, trying to control your mate, projecting your baggage onto the other person instead of taking responsibility, picking on every liitle thing, etc. can lead in the opposite direction. I think the point for me would be yes, all these reasons are going to happen, it's just how you handle these situations together and as individuals that define the success of a long term relationship.


No one can predict how long a relationship will last under the strain of too much unexpected stress. All these reasons given are predictable . . . you pretty much know this is the way it works, but what really tests us is the unpredictable. Loss of a job, loss of health, loss of a way of life, adding children to the mix, having a parent move in, things that require major adjustments and shifts in the roles we are used to being in in a relationship can change in a hearbeat. It is a huge challenge to keep a relationship going in this day and age. This is where faith, trust, courage, tenacity and all those things that build our character come into play. How do we cowboy/cowgirl up (or not) to these challenges? No, really, I'm asking the question.


I think it would be good to get some feedback on people's experiences in relationships where working together brought you closer and what things alienated you from each other?


Perhaps you should have written an article and Eharmony should haveposted yours. I found what you wrote to have way more value and insight, thanyet anotherlame articleposted by eharmony.
1st, Sarah your 'Clint Eastwood' photo....my gosh, ya just want to hug that cute little thing!


2nd, I agree..and I also have posted several comments on other issues, as one caught my eye which rattled my cage a little, as his response was about the "view your matches for free", and said that it was SPAM! Well...the one huge problem with the viewing of matches is totally promoted and advertised by EH, and was insulted by the fact that "we" who cannot respond and unaware so, that "he" was irritated by receiving such matches, and as many are viewing EH for such "matches", but also may see the "advice" posts...seems to cut us down immediately and not even knowing us, but considered SPAM. A situation created by EH!


In any event, it does get back to articles posted by EH. Read the advertisement at the beginning of this article "8 Bad Reasons To Break Up"!EH goes to all the trouble/time to interview authors and/or specialists dealing with relationships. Do you think they look into the advice topics they send out and evaluate and/or READ what we are saying! The word "lame" comes up quite often, which on some that's an understatement. However, comments/personal advice on certain aspects of the "# of Reasons..", "the Do's and Don'ts","the How To or What to Ask...", now do they actually get those questions from specialists and/or authors?


Once again, I believe since EH sends the advicetopics out someone should be monitoring them, which I had e-mailed EH my concern/comments regarding some of this "lame" topics and common sense answers and the issue consistently being addressed about "viewing your matches for free". And as I know very well myself, and they have "their" specialists as it relates to the Internet, yes they should identify to"paying members" of matchesthat are sent on the "view your matches for free". AND, if someare interesting enough and the member still wants to contact that person, should they become a member that the "paying member" be alerted to the fact that they could answer their question now. MORE SO, EH should advise the person acting on the advertisement of viewing matches for free that they WILLNOT be able to respond to questions that may be sent. In my experience, as I actually am NOT a member YET, I'd get the responses back of "did not show photo", "did not answer my question", common sense here.... EH is advertising howthey can "find the love of their life", all the smiles, couples holding hands, etc., then to get a response mentioned before as ifwe "by choice" are ignoring a matches question. Then IF we sign up and those specific members see are match "again"... they may remember and toss it out because of whatever reason they gave to close the initial "match". Not only could it be possible that person just closed a good match, EH quite possibly is loosing membership due to "forced" issues of sales tactics. So...maybe we are not ready to sign up yet, maybetiming financially is not right at that moment, and sure, EH is advertising and just sending loads of matches out, and some that are so way out of the whole scenario, just to "make that sale". EH is advertising to assist people in relationships, getting people back out dating again, etc., in my opinion...my reason I have not signed up yet. I'm not sure if it works any better than going through Yahoo Personals or similar and they are free.


Well, yes, I did get away from the original subject....sorry! But I agree with Sarah relating to EH and guess that's why I extended my comments. The response to the original article...the last question....excellent topic for discussion! I'm from MN and the Twin Cities TV news Channel 4 WCCO each night has a topic and it's called "Good Question"! Now there's an idea for EH to look into, have members and non-members send their question to them, well maybe they do/have and are just ignoring them, but then post that as an article. So far if the topics are generated by those they say they've interviewed as that of an author of a particular book or "notable" professional individual....bottom line EH topics, well a high percentage of them are "lame". And they are NOT listening (or reading). Or, perhaps the tactic thee is...this is what it does generate...and we fall into the "game" as we do respond. Probably giving EH advice for free!


OK so enough, although I have more to say about the whole thing, but I'm sure others will be responding in a similar manner and will more than likely touch on the topics/response I have not. So....Good Answer....Good Question!


- September 24th, 2008, 02:33 pm
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Great article - I have recently been talking to and spending time my "ex" again, although I really hate using this term.(It holds such a negative connotation.)Even after 2 years of being apart, I never stopped loving him,but for practical purposes only, we will say "ex". Anwyay, while us being apartmay have been goodin some ways,I feel we broke up for less than reasonable reasons and for reasons stated in this article.


Our biggest problem was that he didn't want to spend as much time with me as I wantedor do a lot of the things I wanted to do.Really, it's nota terrible problem to have though... someone loving another person so much that they want to spend as much time with them as possible. And, on the other end, I could have been more creative and patient. It was more about him than it was me, and I shouldn't have taken it so personally. In retrospect, the fact that I love, trust and respect him more than anyone else I've ever known (and I'm 30 now) is much more important that a relatively small issue that could have been worked though had we communicated a bit more effectively.


It is too soon to tell if we will enter back into a committed relationship or "end up together", but I have every hope we could, and I'm simplygratefulto be givena second chance.


Thanks for writing this article. I hope it will help someone else not make the samemistake that I made and had to learn the hard way.


Good luck, it sounds like you have deep heartfelt feelings for the "ex". Speaking of ex's,a comedian (whose name I forgot) summed it up best... "getting back with an ex is like sour milk, you take it out of the fridge, take a wiff, see that it's spoiled, shrug and put it backhoping thatit may be better tomorrow". That's not verbatim, but you get the jist of it. Usually a person is an ex for a reason.
Thank you for the well wishes, indidentlover. The comedian quote is funny and probably rings true for the most part.


I've actually never gone back to an ex (or wanted to for that matter) until now... not that I've had toomany ex's mind you. I'ma long term kinda gal. But, people grow and learn and change, so never say never.I woulduse the word"mature" here,but sinceI've turned 30, I am opposed to anything that makes me sound old!!!haha


Thanks again! Hope all is well in your world!
- September 24th, 2008, 03:48 pm
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Great article - I have recently been talking to and spending time my "ex" again, although I really hate using this term.(It holds such a negative connotation.)Even after 2 years of being apart, I never stopped loving him,but for practical purposes only, we will say "ex". Anwyay, while us being apartmay have been goodin some ways,I feel we broke up for less than reasonable reasons and for reasons stated in this article.


Our biggest problem was that he didn't want to spend as much time with me as I wantedor do a lot of the things I wanted to do.Really, it's nota terrible problem to have though... someone loving another person so much that they want to spend as much time with them as possible. And, on the other end, I could have been more creative and patient. It was more about him than it was me, and I shouldn't have taken it so personally. In retrospect, the fact that I love, trust and respect him more than anyone else I've ever known (and I'm 30 now) is much more important that a relatively small issue that could have been worked though had we communicated a bit more effectively.


It is too soon to tell if we will enter back into a committed relationship or "end up together", but I have every hope we could, and I'm simplygratefulto be givena second chance.


Thanks for writing this article. I hope it will help someone else not make the samemistake that I made and had to learn the hard way.


Good luck to you and your "ex" possibly repairing your relationship. Different expectations re: how much time to spend together is an issue that I'm dealing with myself a bit. Many of my friends who are married share that they and their spouses have quite varied interests and spend more time apart than I find appealing. I was married for almost 20 yrs and recognize despite different interests a marriage can exist. I'd like to believe they can exist with better results than my own!


In whatever experience I've gained since my divorce, I have yet to meet a man with mostof my same interests (dancing, hiking, conservative politics,gardening, cooking, reading) whichwould make spending more time together more probable.I have dated men with some of those interests, but not most of them. According to Willard Harley who wrote His Needs/Her Needs ( a book recommended to me by a gentleman I met on eHarmony), Harley says couples need to spend 15 hrs/wk together to have a strong healthy relationship. None of the younger married couples (or even couples my age) thatI talked to thought they spent that much time together every week. Children and workinterfere with much of that time, plus varied interests... golf, different TV show interests, etc.Harley believes couples should make an effort to find mutually satisfying activities that they can share togetherand not have any hobby/interest that your spouse/significant other doesn't condone. He has a more extreme view than many couples probably think necessary.


For me, I'm still unsure how much time I need to spend with my partner/week for me to feel loved. I know that mybeau's and my varied work schedules and distance apart makesseeing each other a bit of a challenge. So time spent together hasn't been that big of an issue. The amount of time he spends or doesn't spend communicating with me when we're not together, has been an issue. Communication is one of my top five emotional needs that I need to have met in a relationship.


This was a bit of a lengthy response to your post, Irishdancer Jen, but I hope it was helpful in some way. Best wishes to you.
luv2dance123, thank you so muchfor the well wishes. (wow, everyone is so nice on here!) and thank you for taking time torespond...good food for thought!my expectation to spend more time with the "ex" was probably not completely unreasonable. time together and communication is also something I need in a relationship. but, in the end when things were beginning to sour, we took extremely opposite approaches to dealing with the problem, me wanting to discuss it everytime it came up (a mistake), which caused him to want to avoid the issue as much as possible (also a mistake).


for now, weseem to begravitating towards each other again.. takingsmaller steps but making a great deal of progress. we havesome common interest but some that are also separate. i think that is probably healthy. we both run, so have been running together lately (we never did this before) and enjoy amusement parks/coasters so we are both taking next Friday off to go to Busch Gardens together. of course, we have our separate things as well.. i love to dance (much like you) and he is not a dancer nor does he have any interest in it whatsoever, but i am okay with that now. so he may not want to go to my competitions or to the club occassionally, but that's what friends are for. so, it would be like pulling teeth to get him to go to a rom-com (heaven forbid haha) but be both enjoy comedies and i can tolerate zombie movies.in the end, apparentlyneither of us were willing to compromise, were stubborn, hurt and angry. now that time has passed and the heart has forgotten these things, it feels like when we first started dating... only with a bit more wisdom now.since i was the one that broke things off, iwas prepared togive a lot of patience, which is not fun, but has definately paid off.


i wish you luck finding someone youin which you have a goodamount of common interests so thatyouare able spendtogether easily. 15 hours may sound like a lot, but really when you thinkg about it, it's reasonable.Most people give 40-60 hours a weekto an employer... and while having a career and eaning a living is necessary for survival,I think 2 hours a day is very do-able if having a relationship is important to you. No one wants to feel like it is work though, so you are right, common interests help a lot! again, good luck!
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I would be mindful of the admiring others. To some degree this is normal. Howevertaken too far, this can signal an ineptness for the person to be able to fully connect to the heart and soul of his/her partner. Intimacy may be viewed purely from the physical realm. In other words, you may never fully have his/her heart and that can leave the feeling of something is missing. Just my opinion :<)
Dan, your opinion is certainly "unexpected" coming from a guy. I would say in most cases this is exactly how women feel in a relationship that just is going anywhere. I had been in such a relationship where"intimacy" was his ONLY motivation. Although it meant something at one time, when I needed help around my house....his comment was "well I'd do more, I'd pay all your bills, IF I could sleep with you" (I had "moved" him into the guest room when he came for a weekend, he was usually on the road working for a month, stay at my house on weekends, but he'd do his thing..photographer, and he was good, people would stop over to get prints of the events the prior evening, although he would have to have a few beers and "smoke", not cigarettes, in order to talk to people...the reason the relationship diminished from girlfriend- boyfriend, to he "rented" the guest room). There wasn't something just "missing", a huge crater developed the seemed to swallow up everything I did enjoy. So I had to stop it, only way out, and have not regreted doing so. The only contact we keep is if I call and ask something about the computers (I have 2). He moved everything out, stored at 3 different places, last year is when I asked him to move everything out which was before the 4th of July. He only came with what he had in his car, as he stayed at hotels in working, but never seem to miss anything. I allowed he to come back weekends when he had photography work to do, but somehow it ended up to be a "dragged" out year. However, I really thought he'd sit down to talk as he did indicate he hated the hotels and he did not want to move. BUT the one thing he never said is, I don't want to move, I want to stay with YOU. The worst was I was in the hospital this past November for a month, he was out in Texas bring some cars with our friend to sell down in Mexico. I actually was not expected to make it through the 2nd day, but I did. Not once, when he brought me home did he say, I'm sorry I wasn' here for you, I'm glad you are OK and nothing happended, not to mention he really never asked anything. When I mentioned that once in a conversation and very shortly after being released from the hospital, his response was "why should I care, you won't even let me sleep with you"!? Heart wrenching and that delivered the final blow, and a heavy blow that was. Cruel really that his physical need was more important then working out WHY there was a lack of the same and certainly NOT because I didn't want to, but in just this "somewhat" short paragraph that was just during the last few months. And, coincidenal as it may be, I asked first and he would not comply, then I had to be more firm and forceful that he could no longer stay here. It was once again the week of 4th of July and actually before my birthday. So that all kinda s---s! He still never said he didn't want to leave, stay with me, apologize for the other issues, etc., I finally got him to walk out the door. NOW he says he didn't want to leave, but there is no recovering the relationship at this point.


This was very demeaning and destroyed any desire of intimacy, which I tried to explain to him, e-mail him regarding concerns and needing to talk when he came back; however, with NO response. So "his" physical desire no longer did it for me. And, yes, leaving a very empty feeling. Pretty sad too, as I do have a nice place to live, nice outdoor living (I live in a modular home against our "historic bluff" area.That really meant nothing to him...he found NO enjoyment in sitting out with me when I had the fire pit going at night and couldn't understand my laying in a lounge chair "star gazing" and trying to figure out the constellations. That was just one thing. I have many bird feeders and would say "hey look at this, I have a blue bird on the feeder"...along with many other species. Nothing, almost like a "dead zone" to reality.


In any event, your comment comes as a surprise, but thank you for actually recognizing the difference and more so expressing the same! So....the other response from the other person (sorry...as I'm typing I cannot go back and view the other response); however, she (I'm assuming) sighed and said she was still there. Well...take a deep breath or sigh and say time to move on and out, it's not worth it!
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Great article - I have recently been talking to and spending time my "ex" again, although I really hate using this term.(It holds such a negative connotation.)Even after 2 years of being apart, I never stopped loving him,but for practical purposes only, we will say "ex". Anwyay, while us being apartmay have been goodin some ways,I feel we broke up for less than reasonable reasons and for reasons stated in this article.


Our biggest problem was that he didn't want to spend as much time with me as I wantedor do a lot of the things I wanted to do.Really, it's nota terrible problem to have though... someone loving another person so much that they want to spend as much time with them as possible. And, on the other end, I could have been more creative and patient. It was more about him than it was me, and I shouldn't have taken it so personally. In retrospect, the fact that I love, trust and respect him more than anyone else I've ever known (and I'm 30 now) is much more important that a relatively small issue that could have been worked though had we communicated a bit more effectively.


It is too soon to tell if we will enter back into a committed relationship or "end up together", but I have every hope we could, and I'm simplygratefulto be givena second chance.


Thanks for writing this article. I hope it will help someone else not make the samemistake that I made and had to learn the hard way.
I'm happy for you! Let's hope things are better the second time around.





Let's face it - we all need some space now and then. Otherwise we're bound to feel smothered. I dated someone a few years back who wanted to push things along while I preferred a slower pace. This was new to her and she was fine with it. We eventually split for other reasons, but at least it was amicable.
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Just be sure to ask yourself if you can really go it alone?


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Apparently so, I'm still here.
Well...I kinda made a mistake in my comment on a previous issue. I did however mention "fino's sigh" and stating still here. If you read what I wrote to Dan...I stated to take a deep breath and sign and move him out. You will breathe a sign of relief.


Argytunes...so when you say "can you really go it alone", are you saying to stay in relationship that doesn't exist anymore? I remember my boyfriend had madea similar statement saying "well I don't want you to have to move"! Well it wasn't me moving, it was him AND I took care of my finances just fine before, maybe a little tighter now but I've "regrouped" and have a plan. You can't stay in a relationship that has nothing to give back. Going it alone, right now that's the break I need, although I do have men "friends", so if I want to go out I ask them, no pressures!


So I guess my question to clarify "just make sure if you can really go it alone", do you mean financially and/or being alone, by yourself?
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I have gone it alone for 56 years, so why do I need a relationship? I do not need nor do I want one. What I want is to date and not every week, but to date now and then just to have some company. The problem is: there just is not women out there that want to date and nothing more. I cannot blame them because it is normal to cohabitate. I just happen to be a person that cannot cohabitate.
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I have gone it alone for 56 years. It is great to do whatever you want. The big problem is, I would like to date now and then and nothing more. I cannot find a woman that wants to date now and then. I do not blame them because it is not normal not to want cohabitation. I just happen to be a guy that wants no part of that.
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This is a great article given my predicament. I'm currently undergoing a separation with my husband of barely 10 months. The article states exactly all the reasons that he is using tobreak up our marriage. And no, a possible divorce is not due to us not knowing each other. We've known each other since 1994. I sent this article to him, in the hopesthat he'll take the blindfold off before it's too late.


We got into a terrible argument, and that was the last time I saw him. He's refused talking to me about anything, and has completely shut me out of his life. It's pretty much been his way or no way.


Ibelieve that I'm more tolerable, just like the article says that we should be.It's never an easy path when you are involved with someone romantically, but you endure the relationship because you truly love the person. My "other half" has this fairy-tale illusion that relationships are perfect, and couples never argue?
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