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Ingytravel is offline Ingytravel Post #41  February 9,2012, 10:44am
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I think what works for some people, doesn't work for others. What is good for some is damaging to others...we're all unique.

Sometimes, when there is a great enough connection, people say things they don't normally say and perhaps things that aren't entirely appropriate but it feels right.

We don't know this girl, we can't speculate on her motives or mental health...

The whole thread is about speculating about her!! LOL...That is why the OP came on here...to get opinions and thoughts on what happened as it certainly struck him odd that someone would do this on a first date...

As I said...I don't think there is a therapist out there that would recommend she do this with a complete stranger on a first date...

That is not healthy as she doesn't know who she is telling this story to and it could actually be dangerous with someone who is not kind or is manipulative....They could totally take advantage of her in an emotionally weak state of mind....

That's why my personal opinion would be that she needs more time and doesn't seem ready to be dating....as others can certainly disagree and the OP choose what he wants...
 
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Ingytravel wrote :
The whole thread is about speculating about her!! LOL...That is why the OP came on here...to get opinions and thoughts on what happened as it certainly struck him odd that someone would do this on a first date...

As I said...I don't think there is a therapist out there that would recommend she do this with a complete stranger on a first date...

That is not healthy as she doesn't know who she is telling this story to and it could actually be dangerous with someone who is not kind or is manipulative....They could totally take advantage of her in an emotionally weak state of mind....

That's why my personal opinion would be that she needs more time and doesn't seem ready to be dating....as others can certainly disagree and the OP choose what he wants...
Again, I agree. Imagine if she were still saying this on first dates 10 years down the road, would that seem right? There is a reason this is on the tip of her tounge and it is most likely because she has not gotten to a place where it no longer defines her. By mentioning this on a first date is saying that this trauma defines her as a person. There is much to be worked through.

Edited to add: I have mentioned in my previous post but will mention again, it is common for women who have been vicitimized by men sexually to attempt to gain the immediate attention and condolences from men as a way to validate their feelings of being a victim and to be reminded that not all men will victimize. It is not a healthy place to be and hope she is able to work through it with time.
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That's why my personal opinion would be that she needs more time and doesn't seem ready to be dating....as others can certainly disagree and the OP choose what he wants...
I was just expressing my opinion as well Ingy

My response was to the concrete sounding opinions below...It just sounded very black and white to me...I was just trying to point out that we don't know her or her side of this. Life is grey and there are 5 sides to every story

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I can't keep saying enough...you do NOT do this on a first date!! Plain and simple...

The OP as well as the woman in question does not sound like someone who has casual sex on the first date....

This is something that if she needs to discuss with him at all...should be WAY down the road when they are thinking of becoming intimate....

I don't care how wonderful the connection is on that first date.....this just shows that she is either not ready to be dating...(which I truly think)...or does not have a filter or know appropriate boundaries to be discussing such things to a complete stranger she knows for a few hours....

I don't think any therapist that would be helping someone get over this type of trauma would urge her to talk about this with a man on a first date....
 
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I was just expressing my opinion as well Ingy

My response was to the concrete sounding opinions below...It just sounded very black and white to me...I was just trying to point out that we don't know her or her side of this. Life is grey and there are 5 sides to every story
I get ya....Yes...I do agree that I feel pretty black and white about this as far as discussing on a first date...As I wrote...it could actually be dangerous for her to say this to a complete stranger who could be manipulative to her...

And your right, I happen to believe that if she is truly healed...than she shouldn't be needing to express this at all....but if she needs to...than don't do it with complete strangers....that's the grey area to me...to tell or not to tell....but not the "when"....Do this once you truly know the man...and really trust him to share such an intimate and painful experience.

I do respect other's opinions on this even if it doesn't seem that way....When I am speaking strongly...that is for myself and my own view on the subject...not that everyone should agree with me...Thankfully most people know me now in that I can get quite bold with my thoughts......LOL...
 
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