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teressa is offline teressa Post #1  January 7,2012, 6:20am
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I'm a little confused about my relationship status and all of that. Hoping that I can find some answers here. I met someone online and we've been dating for almost two months. Recently, he told me that he considered us exclusive and dating only each other, but that he didn't think of us as boyfriend/girlfriend yet. He said he's only had one person in his life he considered a girlfriend, and that was his now ex-wife. He said he likes to take things slow, and it's hard to say where things will be with us in six months, etc, so he is just trying to assess our compatibility before calling me his girlfriend. He said he wants to be able to do things with his friends and not feel guilty for not inviting me at this point. He said if we were bf/gf, then he'd feel obligated to include me. I have met some of his friends, but not everyone.

I told him that I thought we already were bf/gf based on the exclusivity conversation we had before we had sex the first time, but that I could accept this for now, but that within a month or two, I'd expect more resolution or else I wouldn't be able to continue dating him.

As for our relationship, it's very enjoyable. We see each other usually once during the week, and once on weekends, which works with my schedule (I have a child, he doesn't). I have pulled away a bit since he told me the non-girlfriend thing, to be honest, no longer initiating calls or texts or emails, and he's pursued me and asked me out more, showed more interest in me.

However, we're not 25 years old. He's 36 and I'm a few years older than him. So we're not kids. If this isn't going to work, I don't want to wait around forever. But he is worth going to some trouble for. He's a wonderful guy and the intimate part of our life is absolutely beyond belief amazing.

I'm just trying to figure out if this is normal - being exclusive and not dating others yet not being boyfriend/girlfriend yet. I feel like my relationship with him is exactly like the one with my last boyfriend, yet that guy used the bf/gf terminology and this guy doesn't. I almost feel like this guy takes those words more seriously, as in something akin to being so serious that engagement is the next logical step, before he says those words, given that only his ex-wife has been given the girlfriend title in his life.

As for his ex, that isn't the issue here. He's not hung up on her. But he is only a year divorced, so maybe that newness is part of the problem. I'm not sure. This year, the year of his divorce, is the first year he's ever casually dated and slept with women. He was married most of the rest of his life and he was a virgin until marriage.
 
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The translation of "exclusive " is "You are only one I am having sex with at the moment, but do not want a relationship".
This word is used because he knows you need to hear it before sex.

After sex phrases such as "Take it slow", "I'm wounded" , "See how it goes", etc. appear to let you "hear" that it is a "relationship" when it really isn't.

Basically, most of what he is saying is string-along-talk so that he can have "exclusive" sex with you, but have his freedom to keep his options open....And "I need to assess where it's going"..is to keep you hanging on if / until he moves on.

Good to take steps way back to see if you want to be his test drive while he shops around.....Best to keep your options open as well...Good Luck..
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I met someone online and we've been dating for almost two months. Recently, he told me that he considered us exclusive and dating only each other, but that he didn't think of us as boyfriend/girlfriend yet. He said he likes to take things slow, and it's hard to say where things will be with us in six months, etc, so he is just trying to assess our compatibility before calling me his girlfriend.

exclusivity conversation we had before we had sex

being exclusive and not dating others yet not being boyfriend/girlfriend yet
 
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This doesn't sound all that problematic.

"Boyfriend" or "girlfriend" are just words without meaning. Exclusive, or not dating others, mean something (that, if broken, constitute dishonesty.) It may be as simple as he being uncomfortable with a label that either sounds like high school, or causes him to take flak from his friends. (I used to be that way, but as it become more common for adults to say "girlfriend," I now do so too.)

As long as you are content with how he treats you, and some amount of due diligence toward a future is occuring, I would go with the flow - and probably kid him about (don't nag.)
 
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thank you for the input wiseman. I actually didn't tell the whole truth. Because I didn't want to admit that we had the exclusivity conversation after we had sex. Not before. It was a few weeks later. Does that change anything as to the meaning? Because he got sex without the exclusivity requirement being part of it. Turned out it was all along, but I didnt' know that at the time.

Dlion, thank you, too. I am content with how he treats me. He's very respectful, and our dates aren't just about sex (which would be one worry.) He goes out of his way to see me at lunchtime on days I have my child and won't be available for an evening date. And when we're together, he's very, very sweet.

Basically, when we're together, I have zero doubts about his interest in me. It's just in between the dates that I start to waver and wonder where this is going. And then think that, at two months in, it's too early to really know.
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I think you're unduely worried (and Wiseman is too negative too often.)

Two months is too soon for much in the way of attachment to form, and I think there's no real option but to give that more time.

I think it's fine to have general conversations about objectives in a non-specific way (marrying again, goals around children, long term lifestyle / career objectives) so as to discover what fits and what potentially needs to be managed so that it does.
 
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"Exclusivity " means not concurrently sleeping with others....nothing more.
2 months is too soon to know "where it is going" for both you and him.....So with all dating there is the unknown and see what happens aspect to it.

Best to do what you are doing and take it for what it's worth.

He is younger and childless so has hesitation about being roped into obligation-dating rather than the freedom to make his own rules, schedules, etc.
So "relationship" where socializing is an agreed upon situation is not what he is looking for with you.

If he calls you "girlfriend" he would have to stop looking around for other possibilities / options......If he only says "exclusive" he is only stating he's not sleeping around.

If you are enjoying him for now, then that is fine....but he is not looking to get tied into a relationship at this point....Good Luck..
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Does that change anything as to the meaning?
Basically, when we're together, I have zero doubts about his interest in me. It's just in between the dates that I start to waver and wonder where this is going. And then think that, at two months in, it's too early to really know.
 
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teressa wrote :
I'm a little confused about my relationship status and all of that. Hoping that I can find some answers here. I met someone online and we've been dating for almost two months. Recently, he told me that he considered us exclusive and dating only each other, but that he didn't think of us as boyfriend/girlfriend yet. He said he's only had one person in his life he considered a girlfriend, and that was his now ex-wife. He said he likes to take things slow, and it's hard to say where things will be with us in six months, etc, so he is just trying to assess our compatibility before calling me his girlfriend. He said he wants to be able to do things with his friends and not feel guilty for not inviting me at this point. He said if we were bf/gf, then he'd feel obligated to include me. I have met some of his friends, but not everyone.

I told him that I thought we already were bf/gf based on the exclusivity conversation we had before we had sex the first time, but that I could accept this for now, but that within a month or two, I'd expect more resolution or else I wouldn't be able to continue dating him.

As for our relationship, it's very enjoyable. We see each other usually once during the week, and once on weekends, which works with my schedule (I have a child, he doesn't). I have pulled away a bit since he told me the non-girlfriend thing, to be honest, no longer initiating calls or texts or emails, and he's pursued me and asked me out more, showed more interest in me.

However, we're not 25 years old. He's 36 and I'm a few years older than him. So we're not kids. If this isn't going to work, I don't want to wait around forever. But he is worth going to some trouble for. He's a wonderful guy and the intimate part of our life is absolutely beyond belief amazing.

I'm just trying to figure out if this is normal - being exclusive and not dating others yet not being boyfriend/girlfriend yet. I feel like my relationship with him is exactly like the one with my last boyfriend, yet that guy used the bf/gf terminology and this guy doesn't. I almost feel like this guy takes those words more seriously, as in something akin to being so serious that engagement is the next logical step, before he says those words, given that only his ex-wife has been given the girlfriend title in his life.

As for his ex, that isn't the issue here. He's not hung up on her. But he is only a year divorced, so maybe that newness is part of the problem. I'm not sure. This year, the year of his divorce, is the first year he's ever casually dated and slept with women. He was married most of the rest of his life and he was a virgin until marriage.
The last part here in the above bold is the most important..

Has he said that he has been 'casually sleeping' with other women (plural) the last 10 months before meeting you?

Unfortunately, but the odds are that you are going to be the rebound woman after his divorce...He is already freaking out over the semantics about exclusive and girlfriend/boyfriend...

I would actually ask him what he thinks the difference is? I have to agree that it most likely means..(whether he admits or not) is that he wants to keep his options open...

This man...is now on the road to 'sowing his wild oats' which never got to happen since he married as a virgin...As well as he mentioned...wanting to do all the single things that he didn't get to do while married...Staying out late...not having to answer to anyone...

I mean..he doesn't have any children...so he really is 'free' to do what he wants right now which can be very appealing to someone once they are over their divorce.

I truly hope that you are having safe sex...

I also hope that you try to keep your heart from getting involved in this guy...

A regular long term relationship is where two people are always moving forward with becoming closer...Granted...it's only been 2 months...and you all only see each other two times a week...

But for him to actually say that he does not want that label....this means he is not sure about you at all....and absolutely wants his freedom.

And the odds, that the first 'relationship' right after his divorce turning into another marriage, are extremely low.

The one thing you need to be careful of...is trying to force this out of him in a few months....It should be totally of his wanting and coming to you about wanting to take the next step of being bf/gf...You shouldn't have to bring it up again..

I do wish you luck..
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Fixed that for you...lol..
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His exclusivity is limited to the sexual aspect of your relationship only. He is likely keeping his options open, possibly even dating others on the days he doesn't see you.

There is nothing wrong w/ wanting to do things w/ friends; however, if he saw you as girlfriend potential, wanting to include you would not be an obligation.

At this point, I think he is using you are a place-holder (and guaranteed sex) until he figures out what he wants long-term. You are at great risk of being strung along indefinitely here. Proceed w/ cautious optimism.

Good luck!
 
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no, he didn't say that he was casually sleeping around. that was my definition/interpretation. he has dated two or three other women since his divorce. not sure how long those lasted. I tend not to quiz people I date on their previous dating relationships because it feels so invasive and because I feel like every situation is unique.

one of the things that bugged me about him was that he didn't want to see me on new year's eve, yet texted me for several hours that night, while I was out with my friends and once he was home (early) from his night with friends. I didn't like that he didn't want to see me on new year's eve. I'm still smarting over that one, a week later. and he didn't buy me a birthday gift or a christmas gift. admittedly, my birthday occurred just a couple of weeks after we started dating, but still. and then, no christmas gift, either. the conversation about not being bf/gf occurred a week before christmas, so I interpreted it, correctly, to mean that I wasn't getting a gift. so I didn't buy him the one I had planned to get, giving him, instead, a small box of homemade cookies a few days before the holiday.

I just find it weird to not spend new year's eve with the person you're dating (he said he'd had previous plans with a guy friend who was having a party) and to not give an xmas gift. I know. I technically didn't give him one, either. But somehow I just knew he wasn't giving me one, either.

he's said he'd definitely not dating others, or interested in dating others. I know it might sound naive of me, but I actually believe him. he's a very trustworthy, forthright person.
 
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