Holiday_HH is offline Holiday_HH Post #1  January 6,2012, 11:58am
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Should it happen? What if it doesn't? (is no kiss the kiss of death?) It is expected that if a date goes well, someone will kiss someone else by the end? Also - does the "type" of date (coffee in the afternoon vs. dinner at night etc) change the expectation? If a guy is feeling it will he always go in for a kiss or are there some guys that will wait until subsequent dates?
 
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Well, if it's a quick coffee date, I think it would be awkward to try and kiss after that no matter how long you sat there together and talked. A whole night out, with dinner and some activity is definitely more romantic and would lend itself to a romantic ending with a small kiss, or more kissing depending on the chemistry. I think a first date doesn't require a kiss, but the second date does, otherwise the woman will think the guy is not very interested. I don't think it really matters who initiates the kiss, but usually more women expect the guy to initiate.
 
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StingFanChicago wrote :
Well, if it's a quick coffee date, I think it would be awkward to try and kiss after that no matter how long you sat there together and talked. A whole night out, with dinner and some activity is definitely more romantic and would lend itself to a romantic ending with a small kiss, or more kissing depending on the chemistry. I think a first date doesn't require a kiss, but the second date does, otherwise the woman will think the guy is not very interested. I don't think it really matters who initiates the kiss, but usually more women expect the guy to initiate.

I'll agree with this 100%, but why is it that the guy always has to initiate? I am a very easy person to read and I make sure of that, but women.. meh, not so easy all the time. Guys don't know if you want to be kissed or left alone and untouched until you either slap us in the face or kiss us back, but by then we've already initiated. GAHH!! Women!
 
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Lucid wrote :
I'll agree with this 100%, but why is it that the guy always has to initiate? I am a very easy person to read and I make sure of that, but women.. meh, not so easy all the time. Guys don't know if you want to be kissed or left alone and untouched until you either slap us in the face or kiss us back, but by then we've already initiated. GAHH!! Women!
Seriously? You've had trouble with this in the past...women slapping you?

I have to say I've never heard of so many men that complain about having to go in for the kiss with a woman after a date than on EHA....

Go rent and watch the movie Hitch..
 
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I've had first dates end both ways, some with a kiss and some without. It wasn't a deal breaker if there was no kiss. I recently even had a 2nd date that didn't end with a kiss. At that point I started to wonder, but because I liked him a lot I went out with him again and was very affectionate so that he knew it was okay to kiss me. He did kiss me on the 3rd date, and it's a good thing because I don't think I would have gone out with him again if he hadn't. I'm very happy I gave him a little time, though, because he is *awesome*
 
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I've had about 60 first dates in the past year and a half. I'd say only about 10 or 12 of the guys actually kissed me at the end of the first date.

I attribute that to a few things. The time of day - about half of my dates were lunch or coffee dates, which isn't a good time to kiss someone. And, second, I don't think kissing is essential to a good first date. A nice hug at the end, definitely. But kissing? I dunno. I don't usually like to kiss someone I just met. Unless they're really hot.

Of all those that did kiss me, it was definitely only during evening dates. And half of those because I invited them to my house (some from online dates, yes. I had checked them out first and knew they weren't dangerous or we had mutual friends.) The others were brave enough to venture a quick peck on the lips in the parking lot while we said goodbye, before I stepped into my car. Oh, wait. there were two guys I made out with in the car. But usually quick peck on lips outside the car.

And I went out on second dates with about 25 of those guys. So, a non-kiss on date #1 didn't mean they didn't want to see me again.

And my current boyfriend? We had a lunch date. Didn't kiss. But then, whups, kissed and had sex on the second date. But shhhh, don't tell anyone...
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"Go rent and watch the movie Hitch "

lol, Ingy you can't believe everything you see on TV. Sorry to break it to you.
Esspecially that one show.. Oh whats it called again?.. The News. Ya don't trust that stuff at all.

Yes I've been slapped and unfortunately on one occation I've been knocked out by her so called ex boyfriend who was very much not her ex.
 
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kanagnost wrote :
I've had first dates end both ways, some with a kiss and some without. It wasn't a deal breaker if there was no kiss. I recently even had a 2nd date that didn't end with a kiss. At that point I started to wonder, but because I liked him a lot I went out with him again and was very affectionate so that he knew it was okay to kiss me. He did kiss me on the 3rd date, and it's a good thing because I don't think I would have gone out with him again if he hadn't. I'm very happy I gave him a little time, though, because he is *awesome*
Thankyou.. Is that really so much to ask?
 
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I don't like kissing on the first date especially if it is someone I meet online - the first date would be the first time we have met. The first date is time to get to know the person one-on-one and feel things out. Of course, there are always exceptions but I am quite reserved about kissing people I have met online on the first date.
 
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Lucid wrote :
"Go rent and watch the movie Hitch "

lol, Ingy you can't believe everything you see on TV. Sorry to break it to you.
Esspecially that one show.. Oh whats it called again?.. The News. Ya don't trust that stuff at all.

Yes I've been slapped and unfortunately on one occation I've been knocked out by her so called ex boyfriend who was very much not her ex.
Wow....at 43....I have never done this nor do I know one male in my entire life who has been slapped by a female for attempting to kiss them...

I would say you need some serious relationship help or maybe some counseling on learning how to better pick up others' cues...

The 'ex' boyfriend...that part she both lied to you obviously and/or you weren't paying attention to the red flags that would lead you to see this woman is in a mess...

You have to know that getting slapped is not something that just 'happens to everyone'.....so you are in an extremely small minority...

The reason I playfully suggest the movie Hitch...is there are actually some great and very helpful real like scenarios and suggestions on the interest a woman will show...As well as how to approach dating as a guy....Plus you get some fun laughter in the process...
 
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