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giving him space is so imprtant. It makes you look proud rather than desperate. Independence v's dependence.
- June 25th, 2008, 02:48 pm
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Giving him space is so important. It makes you look proud rather than desperate..
- June 25th, 2008, 02:50 pm
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Wow!!! I have gotten caught up in liking the same things as someone else even if I hated them becoming bitter. As a single man I have found myself sitting waiting for a woman I was with to call me or I would always be calling her and if she didn't answer automatically I thought it was me and I would get to be a control freak. I would stop seeing my friends and just keep hoping she would call me or I could reach her just to talk to her. Wow!!! So this blew me away and opened my mind to see how pathetic I have been. Waking up to reality. Thanks for this.
- June 25th, 2008, 03:34 pm
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This article really was eye opening. I will admit that I have had some of these tendencies in the past and often wonder if I still might. However, I've made a conscious effort to remind myself of these behaviors. The problem is that I'm such a loving, caring, and affectionate person that some of the things I consider as a normal way of showing affection to someone may actually be perceived as smothering.


Case in point, I was recently seeing someone who I let him do the calling and texting initiations , texting to say he missed me, would call me sweet cutsie names, brough me flowers, said I was perfect for him, wanted to have white-hispanicbabies...all of which I found flattering and it was welcomed and reciprocated. Well,I remember asking if the pace was right or if he felt smothered, he said I was fine we'd go at the pace I wanted. From one day to the next, he said he felt we rushed it and was unable to commit to anything. I was heartbroken. However the odd this is that I was left feeling like I was the culprit of his decision to pull away and the awful feeling that I had smothered him. I've mentioned this in other posts but havent rcvd much feedback. I'm confused, was it me being clingy? I do remember asking to see him often but also made it clear that I wasn't implying we should spend every free moment together. He asked for time because he didn't want to loose me. He said this didn't mean we wouldn't talk or see eachother anymore..it's been about a week and a half and have not heard a word from him...I was guilty of sending a simple text saying "thinking of you" and i then asked if he had found someone else to just tell me, I can handle anything but dishonesty. He said "I haven't found anyone else, I was planning on talking to you again. I told you I needed time, which you aren't giving me." WTF?!


Can any men fill me in on something I'm missing here? If anything, his behavior could have been seen as clingy right? I'm very hurt and am starting to get angrier by the day bc I feel "played" and it was with the worst tool, seemingly fake emotions. My girlfriends says that this guy overdosed himself with me, that he actually paced the relationship with all of his actions, and when he realized the severity in which it was heading...he freaked out. Then tried to put it on me.
- June 25th, 2008, 05:55 pm
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Okay, so I'm the exact opposite, so I think I come off as being way way tooooo INDEPENDENT and not quite interested. I think I'm scaring men off, any advice out there?
- June 25th, 2008, 07:34 pm
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Hi chi girl,


I am so sorry, making yourself vulnerable in relationships/trusting love can sometimes be scary enough, but then to get treated like that can feel devastating. It sounds like you have been doing some serious soul searching on your relationships and how you are in them. Good for you. I am thinking that your heart is amazing and maybe the picks have just not been right for you. is there a possibilty you have been drawn to people who cannot give you truly want. If so this is a good time to notice and believe that you are worth getting what you want. There are plenty of good men who are waiting for a affectiionate, loving girl like you described yourself as. personally, I think chances are the relationships have been too hard and too much work. I wonder what it would be like to be in an equal, lovingg, flowing relationship. I sure hope that for you good luck. Don't let this guys harsh words drain your love or your emotions. Get back to good! You deserve that.


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- June 25th, 2008, 08:03 pm
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I have been guilty of ALL of those behaviors mentioned in the article, and it led to driving men out of my life. The curious thing is, i am a woman with a strong personality, and I get so disgusted and turned off when men exhibit the same behaviors towards me.


I also have found that men my age (in the 40's) are content with being alone and independent, but love having a girlfriend too. It is an odd combination. I have had my fair share of men go crazy of over me, saying I am the "whole package" and so amazing, blah blah blah. I get sucked in by this, they want to go the whole 9 yards, and then all of a sudden, they need space. I have been very careful not to pull the "clingy routine", just has you have, and it still happened. I think that men just get scared when they feel themselves getting too close and their freedom/way of life gets threatened. I have now started to ask men (indirectly of course) about their dating patterns. I am leary of men that seem to have a pattern of 6-8 month relationships that end. They are serial daters, and cannot commit. I am not trying to stereotype or categorize men, I am just simply more cautious and keep my eyes especially wide open with these guys.


The bottom line is, be true to yourself, keep your eyes open, and be mindful of your actions when dating . This is the only way for you to know that it is not you when someone finds that you are not for them. It just is what it is...
- June 25th, 2008, 08:51 pm
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A man wants a woman who needs him, not a needy woman.
- June 25th, 2008, 11:02 pm
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the_chi_girl wrote :

This article really was eye opening. I will admit that I have had some of these tendencies in the past and often wonder if I still might. However, I've made a conscious effort to remind myself of these behaviors. The problem is that I'm such a loving, caring, and affectionate person that some of the things I consider as a normal way of showing affection to someone may actually be perceived as smothering.


Case in point, I was recently seeing someone who I let him do the calling and texting initiations , texting to say he missed me, would call me sweet cutsie names, brough me flowers, said I was perfect for him, wanted to have white-hispanic babies...all of which I found flattering and it was welcomed and reciprocated. Well, I remember asking if the pace was right or if he felt smothered, he said I was fine we'd go at the pace I wanted. From one day to the next, he said he felt we rushed it and was unable to commit to anything. I was heartbroken. However the odd this is that I was left feeling like I was the culprit of his decision to pull away and the awful feeling that I had smothered him. I've mentioned this in other posts but havent rcvd much feedback. I'm confused, was it me being clingy? I do remember asking to see him often but also made it clear that I wasn't implying we should spend every free moment together. He asked for time because he didn't want to loose me. He said this didn't mean we wouldn't talk or see eachother anymore..it's been about a week and a half and have not heard a word from him...I was guilty of sending a simple text saying "thinking of you" and i then asked if he had found someone else to just tell me, I can handle anything but dishonesty. He said "I haven't found anyone else, I was planning on talking to you again. I told you I needed time, which you aren't giving me." WTF?!


Can any men fill me in on something I'm missing here? If anything, his behavior could have been seen as clingy right? I'm very hurt and am starting to get angrier by the day bc I feel "played" and it was with the worst tool, seemingly fake emotions. My girlfriends says that this guy overdosed himself with me, that he actually paced the relationship with all of his actions, and when he realized the severity in which it was heading...he freaked out. Then tried to put it on me.
Chi Girl, as a man i would say this guy is still trying to figure out what he wants and needs and is not mature enough to share his thoughts in the process....sounds like you were both willing participants of a shared fantasy (most likely for different reasons---his probably the male machisma role)....it's probably not that he is dishonest, because he probably isn't very aware of what his discomfort is all about.


Take your time to communicate, explore and learn your partners' emotional intimacy/fantasy comfort and maturity levels, making sure that you are both ready to venture further. The challenge is to keep your focus and remain emotionally centered, present and available while interacting with a loved one. For relationship to succeed, it's important for both persons to respect, trust and know each other and themselves enough to be able to interdependently discern and communicate, with integrity, their individual experiences of reality and fantasy.
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