Need advice on new prospect WHO SEEMS LIKE A JERK


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Jenny_75 is offline Jenny_75 Post #1  October 4,2010, 11:11pm
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1. Went on a date.
2. I wanted out he got me to his place instead of going out. I should have stood my ground I know.
3. He kissed me within 15 minutes. I told him kindly I wasn't there for that and tried to keep talking, he would talk a bit and then start with the kissing and feeling.
4. I gave up, I tried to say chill and then got caught up and didn't give in completely but close.
5. I left in a hurry and explained the next day I felt awkward about it because I said I had not wanted to and explained I understood there may have been mixed signals but next time he needed to really listen. He said I needed to stand my ground and that me bringing it up is "odd." I think that's kinda rude.
6.He thinks dating around is cool and when I said I date one at a time he calmly freaked and said hey we aren't in a relationship and if you wanna spook a guy tell him what you just told me. I've never known anyone to not date just one at a time. HELP! He is 43 I'm 35 I've met men more gentlemanly than him and I expected the opposite. He is very upstanding but not when he's alone I suppose? WHAT GIVES?!
6. We have a date Friday-any advice.
 
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jcd1968 is offline jcd1968 Post #2  October 5,2010, 1:36am
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Do you really need to take a poll to figure this out?
 
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Wiseman2 is offline Wiseman2 Post #3  October 5,2010, 2:47am
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You went to his place, not at gunpoint, I suppose?
He wants to get laid, by as many women as possible, as he stated
Either you are game or you're not
Why play naive and appalled?
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I wanted out he got me to his place instead of going out.
He thinks dating around is cool
We have a date Friday-any advice.
 
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Tipitina is offline Tipitina Post #4  October 5,2010, 3:11am
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He's shown you who he is. Do you want more of the same? Do you want your boundaries trampled on again?
 
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Jenny_75 wrote :
1. Went on a date.
2. I wanted out he got me to his place instead of going out. I should have stood my ground I know.
3. He kissed me within 15 minutes. I told him kindly I wasn't there for that and tried to keep talking, he would talk a bit and then start with the kissing and feeling.
4. I gave up, I tried to say chill and then got caught up and didn't give in completely but close.
5. I left in a hurry and explained the next day I felt awkward about it because I said I had not wanted to and explained I understood there may have been mixed signals but next time he needed to really listen. He said I needed to stand my ground and that me bringing it up is "odd." I think that's kinda rude.
6.He thinks dating around is cool and when I said I date one at a time he calmly freaked and said hey we aren't in a relationship and if you wanna spook a guy tell him what you just told me. I've never known anyone to not date just one at a time. HELP! He is 43 I'm 35 I've met men more gentlemanly than him and I expected the opposite. He is very upstanding but not when he's alone I suppose? WHAT GIVES?!
6. We have a date Friday-any advice.
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And you are blaming the guy for all of this? I'm sorry...but you need to learn how to say no...if that's truly what you mean...and set proper boundaries for yourself....

Obviously you wanted to have sex with this man and stay the night, or else you wouldn't have agreed to anything beyond #2 on your list...


Please don't confuse the issue of actually being 'taken against your will' and playing coy and wishy washy to get a guy to chase after you...

As and adult woman..you can make any choices you want...but don't pretend that some guy is a jerk because you are pretending to say 'no' and then sleeping with him voluntarily...


A true jerk..is someone who advances on you when you absolutely say no...and if he goes any further..you leave the house or call 911...
 
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Ditto below. Who are you kidding here?. Unless he took you at gunpoint, you called the shots . He 's a player,he told you, you know it, so play or get off the pot.
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\And you are blaming the guy for all of this? I'm sorry...but you need to learn how to say no...if that's truly what you mean...and set proper boundaries for yourself....Obviously you wanted to have sex with this man and stay the night, or else you wouldn't have agreed to anything beyond #2 on your list...Please don't confuse the issue of actually being 'taken against your will' and playing coy and wishy washy to get a guy to chase after you...
As and adult woman..you can make any choices you want...but don't pretend that some guy is a jerk because you are pretending to say 'no' and then sleeping with him voluntarily...A true jerk..is someone who advances on you when you absolutely say no...and if he goes any further..you leave the house or call 911...
 
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Jenny_75 wrote :
1. Went on a date.
2. I wanted out he got me to his place instead of going out. I should have stood my ground I know.
3. He kissed me within 15 minutes. I told him kindly I wasn't there for that and tried to keep talking, he would talk a bit and then start with the kissing and feeling.
4. I gave up, I tried to say chill and then got caught up and didn't give in completely but close.
5. I left in a hurry and explained the next day I felt awkward about it because I said I had not wanted to and explained I understood there may have been mixed signals but next time he needed to really listen. He said I needed to stand my ground and that me bringing it up is "odd." I think that's kinda rude.
6.He thinks dating around is cool and when I said I date one at a time he calmly freaked and said hey we aren't in a relationship and if you wanna spook a guy tell him what you just told me. I've never known anyone to not date just one at a time. HELP! He is 43 I'm 35 I've met men more gentlemanly than him and I expected the opposite. He is very upstanding but not when he's alone I suppose? WHAT GIVES?!
6. We have a date Friday-any advice.

if you don't want this to happen again don't go to his house again. end of story. you want to date one at a time. he doesn't. he does not see the world the way you do. why keep going with this? have more self respect. be true to yourself and what you want. maybe you need to decide what you want before you can be true to it. really, your post was disturbing - what it revealed about your thinking process. you do not have your act together and need to be a better judge of people and situations. protect yourself from the predators out there, because they are there looking for women like you.
 
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Jenny_75 wrote :
1. Went on a date.
2. I wanted out he got me to his place instead of going out. I should have stood my ground I know.
3. He kissed me within 15 minutes. I told him kindly I wasn't there for that and tried to keep talking, he would talk a bit and then start with the kissing and feeling.
4. I gave up, I tried to say chill and then got caught up and didn't give in completely but close.
5. I left in a hurry and explained the next day I felt awkward about it because I said I had not wanted to and explained I understood there may have been mixed signals but next time he needed to really listen. He said I needed to stand my ground and that me bringing it up is "odd." I think that's kinda rude.
6.He thinks dating around is cool and when I said I date one at a time he calmly freaked and said hey we aren't in a relationship and if you wanna spook a guy tell him what you just told me. I've never known anyone to not date just one at a time. HELP! He is 43 I'm 35 I've met men more gentlemanly than him and I expected the opposite. He is very upstanding but not when he's alone I suppose? WHAT GIVES?!
6. We have a date Friday-any advice.
he doesn't respect you because you have no respect for yourself.
 
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Jenny_75 is offline Jenny_75 Post #9  October 5,2010, 5:12am
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WHEN DID I EVER SAY I HAD SEX OR SPENT THE NIGHT, I DID NEITHER!?

READ 4 AND 5 AGAIN.


NO I don't need to take a poll, I kinda got that after I wrote it all out. Thanks that made me laugh.

As to the woman on here and IngyTravel. You are of course right in some respects. I don't think it is all his fault, that is why I wrote this. I did note that I knew meeting him was a bad idea. I also noted we DID NOT HAVE SEX (the part where it says didn't give in but got close in the note.)
I have a hard time with boundaries, obviously something to work on. I had spoken with friends and they thought maybe he was overly eager, maybe he got excited, maybe I should go again to see if it was just a one time thing and to be more clear.
Hence posting on here. I thought a guy could tell me if this is for sure a get in the pants guy or if they had ever been overly eager and inattentive and that they may give some advice as to why I should give him another shot.


I wasn't coy. Wishy washy-nervous and not standing my ground I totally agree. If you've been there remember it, you look like you may be older, maybe you know what it's like to feel pressured. If you have never been in that situation good for you. I'm working on the boundaries as I said but I did say NO numerous times and no I had no gun to my head, didn't call 911 I've been there and it's quite different than a guy just being an ass. Every time he advanced I said NO, or that is not what I'm here for, or let's talk or really can we put this off for a bit. I put it every way possible and I gave up. I do know I am partly to blame, I should have walked out but I also know if it came down to actual rape I can get mean when I have to. This is just a guy being a jerk and I wanted to be sure of that from a guy's perspective.

I did give mixed signals but that is no excuse for not listening to what I said. I quickly left and did not respond for days. His sister and I spoke and she kept going on about how nice he is, she doesn't know how he dates I presume.

If another woman writes on here and is a confused, WISHY WASHY, whatever be gentle, your comments hurt just the same and after him I don't need it or want it so please do not reply unless you have something constructive or polite to say, I can get the point without rudeness. Then you would be doing what he did-being aggressive after I said no. I know it's easy in the virtual world but please have the respect to restrain yourself-standing my ground starting NOW. Do not write back unless conditions above are met.

@TIPITINA-you said it best of all, thanks! MARGARET-all cool and well taken-disturbing might be stretching it, I didn't think clearly I don't think that that makes a person disturbing-but the things you said are things to remember. I know they are looking-I've met them-I've been there- a lot of the time I think that is why I have trouble with the boundaries. Thanks.
 
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Just cancel the date..

You don't see eye 2 eye on dating, so why continue..
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