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NJGeek81 is offline NJGeek81 Post #1  August 2,2010, 10:32am
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I'd like to get some opinions on what could be a very delicate subject: dating women in their 30's. As a small backstory for the unfamiliar, I got married when I was 23, divorced when I was 28. I just turned 29 a few days ago. When I initially signed on to Match and eHarmony, I was primarily looking for somebody around 23-25 under the pretense that I felt like my life was at a standstill during those years I was married, and I kind of wanted to start over with somebody who wouldn't be in any particular rush to get married and have kids. Not that I disliked being married or having kids in the near future, it's just that I wanted to be able to take the proper amount of time to know this person before remarrying so I wouldn't end up right back where I started.

Lately, I've been thinking that perhaps I wouldn't mind somebody older than I am who is a bit more mature and past all the bar hopping adventures of their early 20's. In fact, many of my matches as of late (some of whom I'm communicating with right now), have been between 31 and 35 years old. Now in a perfect world, they'd just be meaningless numbers to me. Yet I have to ask the question, if having children is a mutual goal, how long do I have to get to know the person before the doctor or somebody says "Look, if you want kids you better do it now before it's too late and the risk of birth defects and infertility skyrockets." My uninformed instincts tell me that it'd take me at least two years to get to know somebody really well so that engagement wouldn't seem "too soon", probably get married a year after that, and a child a year after that. So if I'm talking to somebody who's 35, that means she'll be 39 by the time we have kids. I know that to some people that's getting WAY ahead of myself, but isn't it a legitimate thing to think about? Are the concerns about having children after 35 all they're cracked up to be?

Any and all opinions welcome. Just please don't kill me for wondering about this stuff.
 
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cinnamon16 is offline cinnamon16 Post #2  August 2,2010, 10:43am
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well, first of all you can change it to look for those 23 to 35 if you want to open up more oppertunities, just a thought there. And second of all i know wemen that have children well into there 40's and even early 50's, altho not as common. Everyone is different and so is there body make up. A friend of mine was told if she wanted kids she better have them by 25 due to "female" problems. So age isnt really the factor as long as you both agree that you want children down the road.
 
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azrph is offline azrph Post #3  August 2,2010, 10:46am
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Not sure I can offer much more than commiseration, but I know exactly where you're coming from. Married at 25, divorced at 30... and I felt the same way about lost years; my ex just decided a family wasn't in her future, so why should I have to give up those five years?

My difficulty now is with the same sort of question of "practicality" and the dissonance inherent in dating across age groups when you're not the one whose clock is ticking, so to speak. I think it would be great, of course to find someone in her mid 20s with her life pretty much put together. Seems like that combination of course is difficult to find, at least in larger cities. Easier to find women in their early 30s fitting that situation, and I've actually found it easier and more natural to find mutual attraction with these women, but in the back of my mind I of course picture a wedding in a year and a kid the year after... I just don't want that.

So I guess, you can't have everything you want, right? Unless you're lucky. But if you fall in love these things will work themselves out. I've decided I'm not going to make it a life goal to reproduce; but if I find the right person, that would of course be wonderful.

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It's a legitimate concern, NJ.

You might want to actually research the topic rather than just questioning here. There is a great deal of info out there. The chances of getting pregnant do go down over time (for men also).

Note it's statistics. An individual woman may easily get pregnant throughout her 40's or even 50's; another might have trouble starting in her teens. The stats are not going to give you any kind of guarantee, with an individual woman, regardless of her age.

Have you considered adoption? Being happy to be an adoptive parent can take a lot of that time pressure away. But if that's not for you, you do need to think about age.
 
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If you're 29 and you're dating women around your own age, it's conceivable(no pun intended) that you could meet someone and within 2-3 years, have kids.
Depending on that person's physical health, it wouldn't necessarily mean they are any particularly huge health concerns for her.
I think it's around 35 that the increase in complications from pregnancy comes mostly into play, but it's been a little while since I've read about it, so I've forgot.
I was 39 when my son was born, my (now ex)wife 33, and no problems.

I hit the bullseye the first time, so to speak, and she was in good shape physically before, also...my son arrived with five fingers on each hand and five toes on each foot, so life is/was good, as they say.
YMMV.

Of course, the older you are, the more you are going to get tired, from chasing toddlers around, but that's a given.
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First, you need to date the whole woman, not a womb. Really--women know only too well the ticking of their biological clocks and has been discussed here, many women are not enthused at being viewed as baby makers first and the rest of them as second.

Many couples try to plan for their children by making sure they have a home purchased, savings and so on before they begin to consider having kids. 3-5 years together as a couple with goals is reasonable. At the far end of your dating spectrum, in 5 years, a woman would be 40 which is still fertile and a 40 year old has a great deal to offer a young child in terms of experience, maturity and knowledge.

Also, though it's a cliche to say that having kids when older means they are still at home when you are in your 60's, I have to say..from my personal experience as a mother and grand mother, having kids around is what keeps a person young. They are challenging and engage a woman in moving beyond what she might be caught up in.

I presently live with my daughter, s-i-l and 5 year old grand daughter. The parents are busy working and rebuilding an older home and I am the live in nanny and housekeeper. At 67, I am perfectly able to keep up with the 5 year old. It's just not an issue for most of we older women, so don't fear that your future spouse won't have the energy to procreate later in life.

I think your age group of 25-35 is pretty fair if you are a mature man of 29. I had my first child at 20 and my last at 33. I was a much better parent at 33.

Finally look for women with similar goals, lifestyles and prospects - someone you can have fun with but also who knows that there is more to life than the party scene.
 
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NJGeek81 wrote :
I'd like to get some opinions on what could be a very delicate subject: dating women in their 30's. As a small backstory for the unfamiliar, I got married when I was 23, divorced when I was 28. I just turned 29 a few days ago. When I initially signed on to Match and eHarmony, I was primarily looking for somebody around 23-25 under the pretense that I felt like my life was at a standstill during those years I was married, and I kind of wanted to start over with somebody who wouldn't be in any particular rush to get married and have kids. Not that I disliked being married or having kids in the near future, it's just that I wanted to be able to take the proper amount of time to know this person before remarrying so I wouldn't end up right back where I started.

Lately, I've been thinking that perhaps I wouldn't mind somebody older than I am who is a bit more mature and past all the bar hopping adventures of their early 20's. In fact, many of my matches as of late (some of whom I'm communicating with right now), have been between 31 and 35 years old. Now in a perfect world, they'd just be meaningless numbers to me. Yet I have to ask the question, if having children is a mutual goal, how long do I have to get to know the person before the doctor or somebody says "Look, if you want kids you better do it now before it's too late and the risk of birth defects and infertility skyrockets." My uninformed instincts tell me that it'd take me at least two years to get to know somebody really well so that engagement wouldn't seem "too soon", probably get married a year after that, and a child a year after that. So if I'm talking to somebody who's 35, that means she'll be 39 by the time we have kids. I know that to some people that's getting WAY ahead of myself, but isn't it a legitimate thing to think about? Are the concerns about having children after 35 all they're cracked up to be?

Any and all opinions welcome. Just please don't kill me for wondering about this stuff.

Given medicine today she can have children until she in her early 40s. Ideally you want to have children by 35.

Ask yourself how many years into the marriage/relationship do you want to wait to have kids? Assume 2 yrs from metting to marriage plus the years of marriage minus 37 yrs old as the max age fro children....that gets you the afe of what to limit on the womans age based on matching.

You said you felt like you missed out on something in your 20s by being married...what exactly? The only thing would be the bar hopping.
 
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ami1uwant wrote :
Ask yourself how many years into the marriage/relationship do you want to wait to have kids? Assume 2 yrs from metting to marriage plus the years of marriage minus 37 yrs old as the max age fro children....that gets you the afe of what to limit on the womans age based on matching.
37 seems like an oddly random number. Just cutting the difference between 35 and 40 or did you hear it elsewhere? And for the record I do not view women primarily as baby makers, but when having children is an important life goal I feel I owe it to myself to at least take it into consideration before I start sending out emails.

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You said you felt like you missed out on something in your 20s by being married...what exactly? The only thing would be the bar hopping.
I don't feel like I missed out on being single in my 20's (being single is proving to be boring), but it's more like I see those five years, 10 if I think about it, as somehow "lost" and I enjoyed the time we had while we were dating and it wasn't all about cleaning and bills and making ends meet. I felt that if I found a 25 year old then I can take my time if I wanted to without any biological clocks rushing things along, but the tradeoff is that I'd be cutting out a lot of potential matches who possess the steady job and maturity I really desire in a future partner, so I'm steering more in that direction now.
 
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First, you need to date the whole woman, not a womb. Really--women know only too well the ticking of their biological clocks and has been discussed here, many women are not enthused at being viewed as baby makers first and the rest of them as second.
 
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I got married at 27, had my first child at 29 and my last one at 40. It was a lot harder at 29 to be honest! At 29 I was a junk-food eater who did not exercise and had no idea how to manage my career stress. I worked too much, slept too little and felt guilty about everything. At 40 I was healthier, calmer, financially stable, and much more self-confident.

There's plenty of time.
 
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