JonathanQ is offline JonathanQ Post #1  June 26,2010, 6:48am
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Hi Everyone,
I've been dating this girl for a month now. We have been on four dates (on weekends) and have been talking on MSN every night for several hours. I told her that I like her a lot and that she is someone that I would like to be in a relationship with. I asked how she felt and she said that she is not sure as yet and that she needs more time. I also noticed that I haven't been getting any signals that she wants to take things to another level, for e.g when I walk her to her car she gets in very quickly and leaves no opportunity for a good night kiss. I am unsure as to what I should do. I like her a lot and I don't want to pressure her into making a decision that she isn't ready to make. I am willing to just continue talking and hanging out and seeing where things go (i.e until she is able to figure out what she wants. However, I am worried that I will become more and more attached to her and she may eventually say that she doesn't want to be in a relationship with me and I will wind up very emotionally hurt.
The alternative is that I tell her that as much as I like her I think that we stop seeing each other because I am worried of becoming too attached and winding up hurt. In which case I could be pushing away a great girl who might have eventually wanted to be in a relationship with me.
I am torn guys, I don't know what I should do. A part of me is wondering how could she have no idea how she feels about me. Wouldn't she know by know whether she is physically attracted to me? And wouldn't she give some signals to show it?
What do you guys think that I should do?
 
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Hi Everyone,
I've been dating this girl for a month now. We have been on four dates (on weekends) and have been talking on MSN every night for several hours. I told her that I like her a lot and that she is someone that I would like to be in a relationship with. I asked how she felt and she said that she is not sure as yet and that she needs more time. I also noticed that I haven't been getting any signals that she wants to take things to another level, for e.g when I walk her to her car she gets in very quickly and leaves no opportunity for a good night kiss. I am unsure as to what I should do. I like her a lot and I don't want to pressure her into making a decision that she isn't ready to make. I am willing to just continue talking and hanging out and seeing where things go (i.e until she is able to figure out what she wants. However, I am worried that I will become more and more attached to her and she may eventually say that she doesn't want to be in a relationship with me and I will wind up very emotionally hurt.
The alternative is that I tell her that as much as I like her I think that we stop seeing each other because I am worried of becoming too attached and winding up hurt. In which case I could be pushing away a great girl who might have eventually wanted to be in a relationship with me.
I am torn guys, I don't know what I should do. A part of me is wondering how could she have no idea how she feels about me. Wouldn't she know by know whether she is physically attracted to me? And wouldn't she give some signals to show it?
What do you guys think that I should do?
Next time you go out say you're going to the bathroom, then leave and let her get stuck with the bill.

That ought to tell you about all you need to know.
 
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If she is sharing the cost, ask for a Kiss. If she refuses, I would have a serious conversation about what I'm looking for, what she's looking for, and the pacing of moving forward.

If she is not sharing the cost, consider either ending things now, or putting done some requirements to stop you being used. I think you already let it go too far, in this case.
 
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D_Lion wrote :
If she is sharing the cost, ask for a Kiss. If she refuses, I would have a serious conversation about what I'm looking for, what she's looking for, and the pacing of moving forward.

If she is not sharing the cost, consider either ending things now, or putting done some requirements to stop you being used. I think you already let it go too far, in this case.
I usually pay for everything (except this one time when I was late because of traffic and she bought the movie tickets). Right now she is in a position of power I guess...because she knows how I feel about her and I have no idea how she feels about me. Maybe she just likes the attention and she is getting free meals and movies out of it. So I am worried that she will keep delaying having to tell me how she feel about me and just string me along.
The thing is...what if I am wrong about all of this (and she is just being cautious before she commits herself to a decision), and I press her for an answer. Wouldn't I seem like a jerk for trying to force an answer out of her?
 
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I usually pay for everything (except this one time when I was late because of traffic and she bought the movie tickets). Right now she is in a position of power I guess...because she knows how I feel about her and I have no idea how she feels about me. Maybe she just likes the attention and she is getting free meals and movies out of it. So I am worried that she will keep delaying having to tell me how she feel about me and just string me along.
The thing is...what if I am wrong about all of this (and she is just being cautious before she commits herself to a decision), and I press her for an answer. Wouldn't I seem like a jerk for trying to force an answer out of her?
Look, it's really simple. You have to shift the power dynamic back towards the center. If she's got a problem with that then you'll have your answer.

The way you do this is to assume the same posture she has. Stop doting on her, stop calling her, stop paying for everything.

I'd suggest if you want to go out with her, only call her at the last minute, make it seem like you're seeing other people, or that she's becoming your Baxter.

If she replies by becoming even more distant and caring even less or she picks up the slack and stops just being a sack you're dragging around then you'll have your answer either way.
 
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Look, it's really simple. You have to shift the power dynamic back towards the center. If she's got a problem with that then you'll have your answer.

The way you do this is to assume the same posture she has. Stop doting on her, stop calling her, stop paying for everything.

I'd suggest if you want to go out with her, only call her at the last minute, make it seem like you're seeing other people, or that she's becoming your Baxter.

If she replies by becoming even more distant and caring even less or she picks up the slack and stops just being a sack you're dragging around then you'll have your answer either way.
Well, she was the one who arranged our last date. After she had told me that she wasn't sure how she felt and that she needed time to decide I thought I would give her some space and I had no intention of asking her out that weekend. But to my surprise she asked me if I was free and wanted to go see a movie. So I was thinking that this was a good sign but then at the end of the date she seemed to make sure that there was no opportunity for a good night kiss. So that's why I became even more confused. Even though she says she needs more time I still think that after a month (with four dates and talking every single night) that she should have at least some idea of how she feels?
Don't you think so?
 
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JonathanQ wrote :
Well, she was the one who arranged our last date. After she had told me that she wasn't sure how she felt and that she needed time to decide I thought I would give her some space and I had no intention of asking her out that weekend. But to my surprise she asked me if I was free and wanted to go see a movie. So I was thinking that this was a good sign but then at the end of the date she seemed to make sure that there was no opportunity for a good night kiss. So that's why I became even more confused. Even though she says she needs more time I still think that after a month (with four dates and talking every single night) that she should have at least some idea of how she feels?
Don't you think so?
You need to stop talking to her every night, too.

You're turning into her cuddleb!tch. (that's the guy that a woman goes to for emotional connection and support when her real boyfriend is done having sex with her)

Like I said, you have to change the power dynamic. Cut down on your accessibility.
 
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JonathanQ wrote :
I usually pay for everything (except this one time when I was late because of traffic and she bought the movie tickets). Right now she is in a position of power I guess...because she knows how I feel about her and I have no idea how she feels about me. Maybe she just likes the attention and she is getting free meals and movies out of it.
This is a probable-enough risk that I think you should not have allowed it to get this far.

In addition to the lack of fairness, she has contributed nothing - not even any sign of interest or appreciation. Unless you have some evidence of a complete lack of experience on her part, she knows perfectly well how to date - and has been down this road.

I think you're being used for the free meals, as you stated.


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So I am worried that she will keep delaying having to tell me how she feel about me and just string me along.
Stop being a meal ticket for her. She has a job, or should. I would either require her to pay the next meeting. If you can't bring yourself to do that, or wish not to, plan a no-cost meeting. If she balks at a no-cost meeting, you know you were being abused.


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The thing is...what if I am wrong about all of this (and she is just being cautious before she commits herself to a decision), and I press her for an answer. Wouldn't I seem like a jerk for trying to force an answer out of her?
It is a fair expectation to want to know if your partner is attracted to you, interested in you, sees any possible future with you. It is also fair to expect them to honestly disclose these informations.

You have made unearned investment in her, on the basis of a future. It is past time for her to prove worthy of it.

In general, women are going to react better to a take-charge, make decisions attitude in men. While it is not certain she is walking over you by intent, your situation is descriptive if that, and you are not doing what your could be to prevent it.

If you want exclusivity or some intimacy or affection, then either ask for it or initiate.

At the end of the day, do you want to waste six months, and a lot more money, to be in the same position you are now?
 
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I would say that she has to know. Whether or not she is ready to get there yet is another thing. In a way it sounds like she is enjoying the company and doesn't quite think there is going to be anything there with you. I think you should be honest with her and tell her how you are feeling. After talking to someone that often and that many dates, you just know!
 
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