Nice Guy Vs. Bad Boy

there are nice guys who are also strong and bold.

Please STOP. This argument is old and has never held water. Why do we all insist on continuing a debate when neither side has a leg to stand on. There is no clear definition of a "nice guy" in this argument, nor is there one for a "bad boy". This whole subject just annoys me to no end, and I'm willing to bet, I'm not the only one. You cant just throw large groups of people into a specific description and call it gospel. I'm sure there are nice guys out there who are doormats, but I'm also sure there are nice guys who are also strong and bold. Overgeneralized statements are in essence useless for debate. (And yes, I realize I made that statement using an overgeneralized statement, but lets pretend we didnt catch that). No matter what, everyone has different views and different aspects to their personality, which makes for many different types of "nice guys" and "bad boys" and many different definitions as to what they are. I for one, would call myself a nice guy, but I'm no doormat, so obviously my definition is different from others out there. So, in essence, what this (hopefully somewhat sensical) rant boils down to is: can we PLEASE STOP with the endless nice guys vs. bad boys arguments based on ground that's less solid than jell-o on a hot summer's day?

Thank you.

there are nice guys who are also strong and bold.

yes there are and they are extremely hot

There IS a meaning, in a woman's eyes, between bad boy and nice guy.

Of course no statement can be true of all situations, but let's be clear, the difference exists. It all lies in subtle things, such as:

Do you laugh at her jokes
Do you smile often around her
Do you seem to 'care' about what she says (eye contact, nodding while she tells stories)
Do you give off a sense of indifference

If you answered yes to 1-3 , chances are you are a 'nice guy'. Your essentially a cracked code. No challenge, yo are what you are. If you answered no to 1-3, and yes to #4, you are more likely a 'bad boy'. Its very simple. Women interact with dozens of guys a day, and 90% do #1-3. The safe route. Thats why its so often genralized that women fall for bad boys, b/c, by definition, they want somebody different.

I work at a job where the ratio is about 20:1 women to men; im one of 6 guys. I have varying relationships with many of the attractive women in my age range. I have come to learn this: The women i have a more cat n mouse, give and take, indifferent relationship with (bad boy), im much more likely to be 'succesful' with (theoretically). The ones whom i do the things above (#1-3), im basically in the friend zone, like probably dozens of other normal guys they encounter.

There is a difference, you just have to know what makes you a 'nice guy' v. bad boy

It doesnt mean nice guys dont win, it just means if you are a nice guy trying to get a certain type of girl, than, yes, you WILL lose. lOL

Yeah. Let's talk about bad girls. They're more fun than bad boys.